is pacquiao the greatest southpaw of all time??

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Not close , Hagler Pernel and Hector Camacho were all better than Manny . This right here !!

It Is beyond astounding. Mayweather nor Pacquiao hold a candle to Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran. Floyd and Manny couldn't hold their spit buckets.

I can't believe how many people on here think Pacquiao is better than Hagler. It's astounding how little the majority of posters on this site actually know about boxing. It Is beyond astounding. Mayweather nor Pacquiao hold a candle to Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Duran.

Not close , Hagler Pernel and Hector Camacho were all better than Manny .

Sweat Pea and Hagler never got knocked the fvck out not even once.

]You act like people picking Pacquiao or Hagler but it's mainly Pacquiao that hurts your feelings, above Whitaker is a bad thing. It's not. All 3 were southpaw, Pacquiao and Whitaker more so and all three had tremendous careers, some of the greatest runs ever but in the opinions of some, Hagler or Pac may be ranked higher. That doesn't mean Whitaker was bad, it just means he wasn't as good as the others in the opinions of some. It's not personal. None of this "hurts"my feelings at all lol. But what irritates me is when people like you talk about past fighters when it's clear you know absolutely nothing about any of the other two fighters mentioned with Pacquiao. To me that makes anything you say on the topic meaningless.

I can't believe how many people on here think Pacquiao is better than Hagler. It's astounding how little the majority of posters on this site actually know about boxing.

Prime Pacquiao beats the living shyt out of prime Whitaker. Not saying Manny could'nt win, but Sweet Pea never got his ass handed to him until he was way past it and coked up.

Whitaker is better P4P. Hagler was a more complete fighter than Pacquiao. I'll have to say no.

I never listed him as one of Pac's best wins, if you read the brackets, I said I could have but I'm restricting it strictly to great fighters but that Pacquiao does have a deep resume beyond simply the elite. It's not that difficult to understand, here, let me help you: "(That's not to mention Bradley and where he may end up in the future or guys like Ledwabo or Hatton)" Do you understand what that means? I just realised there's no point in discussing boxing with you as your only a fan of a certain somebody. I should have realised earlier. :usa2: I didn't mention McGirt until my follow-up posts. Didn't have to. Like it or not, McGirt was a top p4p'er when Pea fought him. And he wasn't moving up or recently moved up. No amount of whining will change that.

You mentioned Ledwaba, is he great? You're a riot. I never listed him as one of Pac's best wins, if you read the brackets, I said I could have but I'm restricting it strictly to great fighters but that Pacquiao does have a deep resume beyond simply the elite. It's not that difficult to understand, here, let me help you: "(That's not to mention Bradley and where he may end up in the future or guys like Ledwabo or Hatton)" Do you understand what that means? I just realised there's no point in discussing boxing with you as your only a fan of a certain somebody. I should have realised earlier. :usa2:

so why'd you mention mcgirt? I said I'm only mentioning Pac and Haglers UNANIMOUSLY regarded great opponents, which is why I skipped on Hatton for example or Margarito. You still haven't given any legitimate reason as to why Whitaker should be ranked above either guy. Resume doesn't cut it with Pac, but if that's your only criteria then fine. I listed my reasons, you should try to list yours. You mentioned Ledwaba, is he great? You're a riot.

Just by reading the comments it's obvious there are a lot of people in here who have no idea about Pernell Whitaker, his career, his opponents, or the timing in which he fought them. Rafael Pineda for example was considered a very dangerous opponent at 140. It's irritating watching people pretend they know what they're talking about. You act like people picking Pacquiao or Hagler but it's mainly Pacquiao that hurts your feelings, above Whitaker is a bad thing. It's not. All 3 were southpaw, Pacquiao and Whitaker more so and all three had tremendous careers, some of the greatest runs ever but in the opinions of some, Hagler or Pac may be ranked higher. That doesn't mean Whitaker was bad, it just means he wasn't as good as the others in the opinions of some. It's not personal.

What I said is what I wrote. Stick to that and you'll be fine. so why'd you mention mcgirt? I said I'm only mentioning Pac and Haglers UNANIMOUSLY regarded great opponents, which is why I skipped on Hatton for example or Margarito. You still haven't given any legitimate reason as to why Whitaker should be ranked above either guy. Resume doesn't cut it with Pac, but if that's your only criteria then fine. I listed my reasons, you should try to list yours.

I'm happy this is a public poll. I've got a few more posters I know to never take seriously.

Just by reading the comments it's obvious there are a lot of people in here who have no idea about Pernell Whitaker, his career, his opponents, or the timing in which he fought them. Rafael Pineda for example was considered a very dangerous opponent at 140. It's irritating watching people pretend they know what they're talking about. Church at the last sentence. How do you mention greatest southpaws and overlook the greatest of the modern era?

You're telling me McGirt a great opponent? Seriously? No. What I said is what I wrote. Stick to that and you'll be fine.

So Chavez yes. Nelson over almost everyone else. Let's keep going. McGirt was a top 5 p4p in his natural division when Pea fought him. Vasquez was a division up, in his natural division when Pea fought him. And Vasquez had killed Winky Wright. Let's keep going. You're telling me McGirt a great opponent? Seriously? No.

Lol I mean...over Whitaker? Seriously? Just by reading the comments it's obvious there are a lot of people in here who have no idea about Pernell Whitaker, his career, his opponents, or the timing in which he fought them. Rafael Pineda for example was considered a very dangerous opponent at 140. It's irritating watching people pretend they know what they're talking about.