"Remember, Remember, the 8th of December"

I bet you guys doing this not because you really care abt the KO but to annoy Manny fans :D :*******:

Great fight. As a Pac fan, the ending hurts. But oh well. Just shows that's boxing. Very next fight, JMM Lost to Bradley. And then Pac beat Bradley easily. Styles... But if you really want to know the truth... their best fight was the 2nd fight when both were at least younger and closer to their prime. Just watch their speed in their 2nd fight and you'd be amazed.

Probably the most exciting fight I've ever seen. At this level of the sport? I can't think of any that surpass it.

You haven't proven jack sh*t. 2009 Marquez went on to win several fights and some by KO. 2012 Marquez has only had one significant win since. LOL you can't tell me he is better in 2012 than he was three years earlier. Having muscles doesn't mean you'll perform better. Like I said, Floyd is also more cut u than he used to be but he is not better than he used to be. Give it up :haha: http://i.imgur.com/HhaI7sY.jpg

What sparked this debate was you foolishly thinking that Marquez was in better shape for the Floyd fight than he was for Pacquiao. I completely destroyed your faulty argument and now the nuthugger inside you is attempting to turn this into a "Floyd is superior to Manny" discussion. :rofl: This is you right now. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zrjuYgZKUns/Tqn-HYcFalI/AAAAAAAABv8/R1NW_WFYsO4/s1600/beat_dead_horse2.jpg You haven't proven jack sh*t. 2009 Marquez went on to win several fights and some by KO. 2012 Marquez has only had one significant win since. LOL you can't tell me he is better in 2012 than he was three years earlier. Having muscles doesn't mean you'll perform better. Like I said, Floyd is also more cut u than he used to be but he is not better than he used to be. Give it up

My friend, you lost this argument. Just look at the other posters clowning you in this thread. Straight from the horses mouth? LMAO How about Marquez saying for five years Floyd was superior to Manny? Are you going to acknowledge that? What sparked this debate was you foolishly thinking that Marquez was in better shape for the Floyd fight than he was for Pacquiao. I completely destroyed your faulty argument and now the nuthugger inside you is attempting to turn this into a "Floyd is superior to Manny" discussion. :rofl: This is you right now. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zrjuYgZKUns/Tqn-HYcFalI/AAAAAAAABv8/R1NW_WFYsO4/s1600/beat_dead_horse2.jpg

:haha: Grasping at straws isn't going to change the fact that you lost this debate, but if it helps you cope with the reality of failure, then by all means, have at it. There's no point in arguing any further, it's become sadly apparent that you're far too stupid to realize when you're wrong. My friend, you lost this argument. Just look at the other posters clowning you in this thread. Straight from the horses mouth? LMAO How about Marquez saying for five years Floyd was superior to Manny? Are you going to acknowledge that?

LOL so? De La Hoya said the same thing before his fight with Floyd. Years later he says he was too old. Fighters always say "I'm in the shape of my life" :lol1: If Marquez had lost he would turn around and say his camp sucked. Fighters always do that. Try again numbskull. :haha: Grasping at straws isn't going to change the fact that you lost this debate, but if it helps you cope with the reality of failure, then by all means, have at it. There's no point in arguing any further, it's become sadly apparent that you're far too stupid to realize when you're wrong.

:haha: http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/juan-manuel-marquez-in-best-shape-of-career-for-fourth-fight-with-manny-pacquiao "Marquez said during a phone-patch with reporters on Tuesday (Wednesday in Manila) that he is in the best shape of his career." Straight from the horse's mouth. Would you kindly stfu now? :lol1: LOL so? De La Hoya said the same thing before his fight with Floyd. Years later he says he was too old. Fighters always say "I'm in the shape of my life" :lol1: If Marquez had lost he would turn around and say his camp sucked. Fighters always do that. Try again numbskull.

You are truly stupid lol. Did you not see the beating Marquez took in round six? If he didn't score a ko in that round he would have lost that round as well. Even Nacho said Marquez lost every round but the 3rd. So do you know more that Nacho? Doubt it. Just because you've been KO'd doesn't mean you're over the hill. Pacquiao was brutally KO'd twice at the beginning of his career and still went on to have a great career. Age is the biggest determining factor of where a fighter is in a stage in his career. Then number of wars, etc. Marquez was pushing 40, took a beating in the fight with Pacquiao, and hasn't had a significant win since. But your dumbass states hes better now than he was in 2009? How? Because he looked cut up at a weigh in? :lol1: What judge gave Pacquiao a win for 7-5? It wasnt an official judge nor the HBO or ShowTime judges. Even many of Pac's fans on here thought he lost that fight. Dont make me laugh. All three judges had Floyd winning 10 to 2 after reviewing the fight. I personally scored it 9 to 3. Heck man, even Freddie thinks Manny lost. :haha: http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/juan-manuel-marquez-in-best-shape-of-career-for-fourth-fight-with-manny-pacquiao "Marquez said during a phone-patch with reporters on Tuesday (Wednesday in Manila) that he is in the best shape of his career." Straight from the horse's mouth. Would you kindly stfu now? :lol1:

:haha: Do you even read the nonsense that spews out of your mind? Roy Jones suffered brutal KO losses at the tail end of his career, Marquez did not. In fact, Marquez has never been KO'ed once, so your comparison is faulty. Furthermore, how does a guy lose a round that he KO'ed his opponent in? Lol. As for the absurd 10-2 scorecard, only nuthuggers such as yourself would take it seriously. There was also a judge that scored the fight 7-5 for Pacquiao, but that doesn't help your silly argument now does it? Regardless, only an idiot would consider a judges scorecard to be unquestionably true. The fact is, it wasn't an easy win for Floyd, he was visibly hurt in the 4th and 6th round, despite Pacquiao entering the fight with a pre-existing injury. Carry on with your nuthugging. :lol1: You are truly stupid lol. Did you not see the beating Marquez took in round six? If he didn't score a ko in that round he would have lost that round as well. Even Nacho said Marquez lost every round but the 3rd. So do you know more that Nacho? Doubt it. Just because you've been KO'd doesn't mean you're over the hill. Pacquiao was brutally KO'd twice at the beginning of his career and still went on to have a great career. Age is the biggest determining factor of where a fighter is in a stage in his career. Then number of wars, etc. Marquez was pushing 40, took a beating in the fight with Pacquiao, and hasn't had a significant win since. But your dumbass states hes better now than he was in 2009? How? Because he looked cut up at a weigh in? :lol1: What judge gave Pacquiao a win for 7-5? It wasnt an official judge nor the HBO or ShowTime judges. Even many of Pac's fans on here thought he lost that fight. Dont make me laugh. All three judges had Floyd winning 10 to 2 after reviewing the fight. I personally scored it 9 to 3. Heck man, even Freddie thinks Manny lost.

Yes because 39 is so far removed from 40 lol. No he hasn't retired just like Roy Jones hasn't retired but we all know Jones is done. Marquez has been out with a series of injuries and has barely fought in three years yet you are so deluded you think he is as good as he was if not better than he was in 2009. Yeah Marquez and Floyd have different approaches to counter punching but Floyd is clearly superior. Marquez dropped and KO'd Manny but lost all the other rounds in their 4th fight. He only won round 3 and then KO'd Manny after getting beat in round 6. Floyd won every round against Marquez and barely took a scratch. He won ten rounds on two of the judges scorecards, never got cut against Manny or Knocked down. So yes Floyd is the better counter puncher. Marquez went through hell to beat Manny, Floyd did not. Lol he beat Marquez and Many easier than they could beat each other :haha: Do you even read the nonsense that spews out of your mind? Roy Jones suffered brutal KO losses at the tail end of his career, Marquez did not. In fact, Marquez has never been KO'ed once, so your comparison is faulty. Furthermore, how does a guy lose a round that he KO'ed his opponent in? Lol. As for the absurd 10-2 scorecard, only nuthuggers such as yourself would take it seriously. There was also a judge that scored the fight 7-5 for Pacquiao, but that doesn't help your silly argument now does it? Regardless, only an idiot would consider a judges scorecard to be unquestionably true. The fact is, it wasn't an easy win for Floyd, he was visibly hurt in the 4th and 6th round, despite Pacquiao entering the fight with a pre-existing injury. Carry on with your nuthugging. :lol1:

:haha: Be honest, does Floyd pay you to nuthug? All jokes aside, Marquez talked about retirement but did he actually retire? No. He also plans on returning to the ring in 2016, so whatever point you were trying to make is irrelevant. And for the record, he was 39 years old when he KO'ed Pacquiao, but of course you would put 40 in order to make your silly argument seem credible. Just when I thought the nuthugging couldn't get any worse, you go and refer to Floyd as the "p4p best counter puncher in the world". Smh. Floyd and Marquez have different approaches to counter punching. This is why Marquez was able to visibly hurt Pacquiao, knock him down, and ultimately put him away. Whereas, Floyd struggled to beat an injured Pacquiao and couldn't even put a dent in his armor. Seems like you're finally starting to grasp the basic concept of "styles make fights", it's good to know that we're making some progress. :) Yes because 39 is so far removed from 40 lol. No he hasn't retired just like Roy Jones hasn't retired but we all know Jones is done. Marquez has been out with a series of injuries and has barely fought in three years yet you are so deluded you think he is as good as he was if not better than he was in 2009. Yeah Marquez and Floyd have different approaches to counter punching but Floyd is clearly superior. Marquez dropped and KO'd Manny but lost all the other rounds in their 4th fight. He only won round 3 and then KO'd Manny after getting beat in round 6. Floyd won every round against Marquez and barely took a scratch. He won ten rounds on two of the judges scorecards, never got cut against Manny or Knocked down. So yes Floyd is the better counter puncher. Marquez went through hell to beat Manny, Floyd did not. Lol he beat Marquez and Many easier than they could beat each other

The greatest fight of all time for me or at least for my time Yeah, it was a magic fight! :boxing::boxing:

Nuthugging? Because I tell it like it is? The guy has gone 1-1 in the past THREE years yet he hasn't declined? Are you retarded? Marquez is talking about retirement. But you don't think he's declined? Face it, Pacquiao got KO'd by a 40 year old counter puncher. You really thought Pacquiao was going to beat the p4p best counter puncher in the world after getting iced by another counter puncher? Oh yeah: STYLES MAKE FIGHTS DOE :LOL1: :haha: Be honest, does Floyd pay you to nuthug? All jokes aside, Marquez talked about retirement but did he actually retire? No. He also plans on returning to the ring in 2016, so whatever point you were trying to make is irrelevant. And for the record, he was 39 years old when he KO'ed Pacquiao, but of course you would put 40 in order to make your silly argument seem credible. Just when I thought the nuthugging couldn't get any worse, you go and refer to Floyd as the "p4p best counter puncher in the world". Smh. Floyd and Marquez have different approaches to counter punching. This is why Marquez was able to visibly hurt Pacquiao, knock him down, and ultimately put him away. Whereas, Floyd struggled to beat an injured Pacquiao and couldn't even put a dent in his armor. Seems like you're finally starting to grasp the basic concept of "styles make fights", it's good to know that we're making some progress. :)

:haha: The nuthugging is strong with this one. Losing a competitive fight to Bradley is by no means evidence of a decline, if anything, it proves that Marquez is still capable of competing with the top guys in his division. The only reason Rado managed to score a knockdown was due to Marquez getting overconfident from the beatdown he was giving. Apart from that minor mishap, he still completely dominated Rado and would have put him away in the 8th if it weren't for the bell. Floyd beats Manny ten out of ten times? Did Floyd's crystal balls tell you that when you were rubbing them? :rofl: Nuthugging? Because I tell it like it is? The guy has gone 1-1 in the past THREE years yet he hasn't declined? Are you retarded? Marquez is talking about retirement. But you don't think he's declined? Face it, Pacquiao got KO'd by a 40 year old counter puncher. You really thought Pacquiao was going to beat the p4p best counter puncher in the world after getting iced by another counter puncher? Oh yeah: STYLES MAKE FIGHTS DOE :LOL1:

You are dumbass. I didn't do a 180 at all. Yes Marquez had a competitve fight with a battle worn Bradley but he still LOST dummy. Bradley was damn near concussed by Provodnikov and then went on to beat Marquez. Losing doesn't get you points just because you won a few rounds.. Marquez has been semi active since he KO'd Manny. He's had two fights since, one which he lost and the other which he was put on his ass. You keep saying the same stuff over and over again as if you were a broken record. "Styles Make Fights." If you truly believed this you would have known Floyd beats Manny ten times out of ten. :haha: The nuthugging is strong with this one. Losing a competitive fight to Bradley is by no means evidence of a decline, if anything, it proves that Marquez is still capable of competing with the top guys in his division. The only reason Rado managed to score a knockdown was due to Marquez getting overconfident from the beatdown he was giving. Apart from that minor mishap, he still completely dominated Rado and would have put him away in the 8th if it weren't for the bell. Floyd beats Manny ten out of ten times? Did Floyd's crystal balls tell you that when you were rubbing them? :rofl:

:haha: Spoken like a true nuthugger. Floyd looked good against Berto because "styles make fights". You claim that Marquez hasn't done **** since knocking out Pacquiao, then you go and do a complete 180 by saying his fight with Bradley was "close"; backwards logic at its finest. Knocking out Pacquiao was his crowning achievement, the fact that he stuck around afterwards and had a competitive fight with Bradley speaks volumes about where he was both physically and mentally. That alone, makes your silly argument look like a complete joke. You are dumbass. I didn't do a 180 at all. Yes Marquez had a competitve fight with a battle worn Bradley but he still LOST dummy. Bradley was damn near concussed by Provodnikov and then went on to beat Marquez. Losing doesn't get you points just because you won a few rounds.. Marquez has been semi active since he KO'd Manny. He's had two fights since, one which he lost and the other which he was put on his ass. You keep saying the same stuff over and over again as if you were a broken record. "Styles Make Fights." If you truly believed this you would have known Floyd beats Manny ten times out of ten.

Here's a question, where does that rank in the history of right hands? Hearns vs Duran Jack Johnson vs Stanley Ketchel Robinson vs Graciano Marciano vs Walcott Marquez vs Pacquaio I think it's up there.

Floyd has looked old in his last four fights. He looked good vs Berto because Berto is a C level boxer. Like I said before 2009 Marquez went on to win several more fights and some by KO. 2012 Marquez hasn't really done jack sh*t since he knocked out Manny. You can't say at 39 years old Marquez was better than he was at 36. You used pictures of Marquez's body at weigh ins but you can do the same with Floyd. Having a chiseled physique does not make you better. :haha: Spoken like a true nuthugger. Floyd looked good against Berto because "styles make fights". You claim that Marquez hasn't done **** since knocking out Pacquiao, then you go and do a complete 180 by saying his fight with Bradley was "close"; backwards logic at its finest. Knocking out Pacquiao was his crowning achievement, the fact that he stuck around afterwards and had a competitive fight with Bradley speaks volumes about where he was both physically and mentally. That alone, makes your silly argument look like a complete joke.