Was Fury vs Wladimir Close Enough To Deserve A Rematch?

The magnitude of the event may be enough to warrant a rematch I admit. Fury upset Wladimir and became the first person to defeat him for a decade. I'm interested in seeing the remach just to see if Wladimir can somehow adjust and come out victorious which would solidify him as an ATG for even the most staunch of doubters, I think. But lets remove the heavyweight titles, let's remove reputation of the pugilists. Let's just focus on the actual fight itself as a standard boxing match. Was the first fight close enough to deserve a rematch, assuming we just view it as a standard fight and take away all the glitz and glamour surrounding it? If it was just a normal fight with no belts on the line, would you think a rematch is completely justifiable or would seem totally unnecessary based on how the first fight played out? If it was as you explained it, then no, there'd be no need for a rematch. It wasn't a particularly close fight, and it was **** with both fighters looking awful. However, even though in rounds it wasn't that close, it also wasn't like Fury did much more to win those rounds so Wlad wouldn't need to do much more to win those rounds back himself. But if Wlad does more then I don't doubt Fury would be doing more himself too. It's hard to do more as the opponent when the other guy just paws at you with a weak jab then flails his arms wildly about in a desperate effort to wrap you up in a cocoon of clinching. But there is a lot more to it than just that so the rematch is certainly justified. I just really hope it's at least remotely watchable this time. But honestly, I also want Fury to win again because I think everyone (well, everyone that isn't one of the obsessive Wlad fans) is tired of how ****ing banal the heavyweight division has become with Wlad at the top. A decade of utter trash in terms of actual fighting to be frank. I can't think of any other champion that has had such a long run of genuinely cringeworthy fights at the pinnacle of the division. I just hope that Fury doesn't fall into a similar pattern of using nothing but clinches as his primary goal in a fight. In fact I don't even care anymore who is at the top as long as we are seeing some good, exciting fights that aren't dominated by clinch after clinch after clinch after clinch after clinch...on and on forever. It's awful to watch. I do think however that even if Fury did, the refs in the US and UK would be more likely to actually penalise him because he's not fighting in Germany where the entire promotion was based on keeping him winning like it was with Wlad and he's not the only star on the rise with good backing so that should create more of a fair shake than we were seeing with Wlad's fights. I think I can speak for most people though when I just want to get this rematch the hell out of the way so we can get on with making some fights at the top of the division that won't be painful, unwatchable clinchfests.

I don;t particularly want to see that garbage again and have my doubts about Wlad actually doing something differently. However, even if fury won 9 rounds about 7 of them were won by an inch so it is not like Wlad has some Herculean task to win those rounds. The question to ask in a rematch is can the other guy win, based on how little Fury actually accomplished in his winning rounds then yea Wlad can win because he only has to do a tad better to win. That's how I see it, with the addition of the fact that IF Wlad pushes fury a little more, Fury will push back. Before we know it, we may actually have an interesting fight on our hands.

I don;t particularly want to see that garbage again and have my doubts about Wlad actually doing something differently. However, even if fury won 9 rounds about 7 of them were won by an inch so it is not like Wlad has some Herculean task to win those rounds. The question to ask in a rematch is can the other guy win, based on how little Fury actually accomplished in his winning rounds then yea Wlad can win because he only has to do a tad better to win.

It might be hard to get people to watch that again.

The fight wasn't very close and it was crap to watch, but when there is an upset this big then a rematch is almost automatic. It wasn't like Wladimir took a frightful beating.

I don't mind. It was a terrible fight, but they were both landing very little and the rounds were all there to be won with one or two clean shots. I had it 116-111, but the rounds were all pretty close. It was just one guy doing a little work while the other did very little.

The magnitude of the event may be enough to warrant a rematch I admit. Fury upset Wladimir and became the first person to defeat him for a decade. I'm interested in seeing the remach just to see if Wladimir can somehow adjust and come out victorious which would solidify him as an ATG for even the most staunch of doubters, I think. But lets remove the heavyweight titles, let's remove reputation of the pugilists. Let's just focus on the actual fight itself as a standard boxing match. Was the first fight close enough to deserve a rematch, assuming we just view it as a standard fight and take away all the glitz and glamour surrounding it? If it was just a normal fight with no belts on the line, would you think a rematch is completely justifiable or would seem totally unnecessary based on how the first fight played out? I had fury winning by 2 clear rounds, and those were the 2 rds he buzzed Klitchko with short left hooks as Klitchko reached in. It wasnt a pretty win at all though, as a matter of fact it was one of the worst HW fights I have ever seen, there was a round where I think Fury landed 2 and Klitchko 1. As a boxing fan I would rather see them move in different directions but Klitchko deserves a chance to redeem himself after a decade of dominance.

For sure, it was a close fight, could easily have been a draw.

I don't think the actual fight suggests Wlad deserves a rematch as tyson was fairly comfortable, but I think he deserves the rematch because of how much he has dominated the division for 10 years, he has earnt the right to make up for that performance. I hope Fury wins again though.

Fury lands 34 more punches across the entire 12 rounds and it's a wipeout? You NSBrs can be so delusional. A guy lands 86 punches in the WHOLE fight and it's a spectacle to behold, no rematch necessary. The only explanation for it is fear. Come on, Fury can do it again, don't have so little faith. I agree with this post to some extent. The fight was not particularly competitive but it wasn't like Fury did some Bradley/Rios type of sh1t on him. And given the fact that Wlad was the reigning champion for over a decade, I feel he ought to be given the opportunity to try and win the titles back. Hopefully the fight will look differently but I'm worried about whether Wlad is flexible enough for that.

Wlad - Wach was one of the biggest beatings I saw in HW boxing where it went to distance. Wlad-Fury was nowhere near.. Wlad-Fury was closer to pacquiao - mayweather IMO... Wach was a punching bag. I was just joking with that comparison. I have rewatched the fight and honestly, Wlad probably didn't win a solid round. If Wlad had Fury's performance I'm pretty confident the remaining scoreline would have been 120-108 or 119-109 or something similar.

A 12-0 wipeout ? :lol1: It was as one-sided as Wlad vs Wach Wlad - Wach was one of the biggest beatings I saw in HW boxing where it went to distance. Wlad-Fury was nowhere near.. Wlad-Fury was closer to pacquiao - mayweather IMO...

my scorecard for the fight 96-96 everyone lost ,what a crap fight

Fury landed very little thoughout the entire fight. For the first half of the fight the rounds were being decided by one or two grazing shots. That's not clear superiority. Exactly as you say you can't claim a fight was dominant upon that type of performance, I just hope the rematch is actually entertaining this time around it was honestly the worst fight I've witnessed this year for a PPV.

nope but the champ deserves a rematch even if it will be the same outcome lol

Funny how professional fighters scoring the fight had literally point between it, you don't win rounds by flicking a jab out and not landing its as simple as that. Fury landed very little thoughout the entire fight. For the first half of the fight the rounds were being decided by one or two grazing shots. That's not clear superiority.

Funny how professional fighters scoring the fight had literally point between it, you don't win rounds by flicking a jab out and not landing its as simple as that.

Of course. Fury nullified Wlad's offence. But he barely landed a single fluid combination over the course of the entire fight. Did he even land a clean 1-2? Shows how deprived people have been of action at heavyweight if they think that is a dominant championship winning performance.

The only reason there is a rematch is due to the clause which Kltischko insists on in every contract. I'm surprised Wladimir has decided to take up the option given what happened, but also give him credit for wanting to atone for his defeat. On purely boxing terms, and the one-sided nature of the fight, it doesn't deserve a rematch and I doubt there is much appetite for it.

Nothing happened. It couldn't have been lower in terms of combat. When a 10 year champ loses a title in that manner, of course there should be a rematch. I think Wlad needs to retire but if he doesn't, rematch makes sense. Didn't you have it close after 7/8 rounds?! Lol.