Who do you think would win and why?
Beterbiev:
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Ward:
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I think Andre Ward circa 2012 would take this decisively. But now I'm not so sure. Ward has been extremely inactive and hasn't looked great.
Either way I'm all in on the fabulous four at 175.
Stevenson, Kovalev, Ward, Beterbiev. So many good matchups to be made.
The fight will happen, don't be silly. The issue is with the T-mobile arena.
What "issue"? What's wrong with the T-Mobile Arena?...
All of you here said that the fight was "signed and sealed"! :)
... but now there's an "issue"? How comes?
Kovalev and Barrera have pretty much the same hand speed. Which is why I think Ward chose him. Barrera didn't land at all by the way.
Yes...... Then call Ward and tell him to sign this fight asap... :)
If slow as molasses Barrera landed on Ward, I know damn well Kovalev will.
Kovalev wins UD IMO
Kovalev and Barrera have pretty much the same hand speed. Which is why I think Ward chose him. Barrera didn't land at all by the way.
I didn't take B-Hop vs Kovalev very seriously -- it rather seemed to be a "passing the torch" fight...
Kovalev highly respects B-Hop, they remained friends after the fight -- with B-Hop giving advice regarding a healthy diet... :)
i picked kovalev to do a real number on him and im expecting the same against against ward. Picking ward is going to be a similar headscratcher predictions to the hopkins one, people said 'why did i pick a 50 year old man' then, this time they will be saying 'why did i pick someone whos fought nobody in 5 years'
i picked hopkins because I wasnt sold Kovalev's boxing ability short and his stamina.
doesnt change the fact Ward is not Hopkins by any stretch
no one in history has predicted 100% of fights correctly
its cool, i like both fighters...kov and Ward, I just think Ward wins. niothing more or less
Beterbiev's side said they want one or two more fights before Kovalev.
He should take an easy cvnt first, like Ward. Andrea can't hang with these guys, they are men, he is a princess, simple as that.
Beterbiev Vs Kovalev is a great fight (I think Artur beat him in the ams) - a good tune up for Beterbiev (for Kov) would be that Umar Salamov cat. Kid will have a say at 175 for sure.
hes never fought a power puncher like them two, much like bernard did he will go into retreat mode as soon as he feels kovalevs power, you know, the fighter you all said would do a pavlik on him. ward is no floyd mayweather when it comes to ring iq, is hittable. 5 years of fighting nobodies and noone is going to bite him in the arse.
ward is no mayweather, he also isnt a 50 year old hopkins
see you in november, everyone is hittable, i guess you forgot the other guy will be getting hit
idk know about you all but I did pick Hopkins to outbox him in a close fight, Kov showed his boxing ability and class.
Ward is a better fighter than Hopkins in 2015
Very good chance he could it just will depend on how well Ward responds to Kovalev hitting him and believe me Kovalev will land on him.
The only fear Kovalev fans should maybe have is Ward trying to be dirty and clinch away for 12 rounds I don't think he can replicate what Chilemba did he just isn't that type of fighter.
If slow as molasses Barrera landed on Ward, I know damn well Kovalev will.
Kovalev wins UD IMO
I hope Kovalev dominates Ward, beats Stevenson after, and meet in a clash verse Beterbiev
Very good chance he could it just will depend on how well Ward responds to Kovalev hitting him and believe me Kovalev will land on him.
The only fear Kovalev fans should maybe have is Ward trying to be dirty and clinch away for 12 rounds I don't think he can replicate what Chilemba did he just isn't that type of fighter.
"the fighter you all said would do a Pavlik on him"
I have literally no idea what you're talking about.
And someone not having the ring IQ of Floyd Mayweather doesn't make their ring IQ overrated.
Ward's spent 5 years fighting nobodies. But not Beterbiev. He's been KO'ing the best of the best in his young career.
is a monster at light heavy, wouldnt let ward bully or foul him.
Even you aren't dumb enough to believe this. Beterbiev flat out not anywhere close to being ready for a fighter of Wards caliber.
im not having it that abrahams a great win, sorry but im being honest. im not trolling, shows how deluded you lot are when it comes to ward that anyone who doesnt think hes amazing is a troll.
Of course it could also be that you suggest Wards ring IQ is "overrated" but offer no sort of backup for it.
And that you say Ward would lose to Beterbiev because "he'd land a big shot" - as if Ward is just going to crumble the first time he's hit hard.
im not having it that abrahams a great win, sorry but im being honest. im not trolling, shows how deluded you lot are when it comes to ward that anyone who doesnt think hes amazing is a troll.
never said it was an awesome win but to say a guy who only lost to elite guys in his prime at 168(Ward, Froch, Dirrell) and remained in contention of world titles over 5 years straight isnt a good fighter is retarded.
all his loses are at 168 and he is past prime. He was still able to remain a titleholder at an advanced age and actually beat one of GGG's best opponents too.
have fun....see you in november with all your excuses why featherfisted, overrated, headbutting ward beats Kovalev
abraham is no good, cobra won every round against him too, even paul smith nearly beat him. i watched it mate, had ward winning in close fight, although he fought really negatively and didnt land hard shots, a lot of cuffing type shots. 5 years of fighting bums is going to come back to haunt him.
I get it....nobodies good to you, got it
If a guy can fight on a world class level until you are clearly past prime and still remain top ten in his division, you are a good fighter.
its ok, keep trying to tear down fighters to trash ward...it wont change the outcome, when November arrives.
nearly and beating is not the same...there are no moral victories in boxing. either you win or you lose.
Ok you want kovalev to win...moving on.
your trolling sucks
he only beat cobra by one round, outside of oakland. he cheated against kessler. other than that hes fought noone whos much good. his CV in last 5 years is absolute garbage and hes jumping in from fighting a 40 year old nobody to sergey kovalev.
one round...bwahahahahahahahahaaha
I saw the fight live and scored it several times since. that was no one round fight.
it was entertaining. Froch himself said he clearly lost and the best man won.
two judges had it closer than most live observers.
You may want to actually watch the fights, instead of rely on press clippings and someone elses score card
you're a boxing fan right? go watch the fight yourself and score it.
yea Abraham wasn't good, even though he defended the ibf title at 160 like 10 times and held the wbo at 168 a few times and remained in the top 5-6 since.
Both Kov and Ward had extensive amateur careers and the same amount of pro fights.....no opponent today can prepare them for the other guy so if they are not ready now, they never will be
if you are rooting for Kovalev, its ok...just say so.....don't try to down play ward because you don't understand what is going on in a boxing ring when you watch it.
Artur has plenty of amateur experience, if it wasn't for Usyk he would of gotten Gold.
Artur is not the person you want to clinch, his inside game is fvcking scary. It'd be interesting to see what Ward would do against a fighter like him.
Yup and if the Olympic back then was the same as Rio Usyk would have lost and at best a draw he got knocked down in round 3
Also We'll see how well Ward take Kov punches, according to Campillo Beterbiev hit even harder, if Ward cant take Kov punches then 0 chance Vs beterbiev since he's even more agressive.
yeah wards skills and ring iq is heavily overrated
why hasn't he had any highly contested fights then?
must be pretty high if no one has taken him out, beaten him since he was growing peach fuzz
just say you are rooting for Kovalev and hope he wins.
that's a lot better than downplaying one of the best fighters to turn pro in the last 15 years.