Martin Murray the people's champ

Why do people always conveniently ignore Khomitsky when discussing Murray's close fights? Why are people pretending that never happened?

I like Murray and have rooted for him many times. He's not a very good fighter though. A shot Grooves just beat him cleanly. Martin has a horrible ring IQ, though he's the kinda guy you want to root for because he's likeable. This thread wouldn't happen to be a poorly veiled attempt to bolster Golovkin would it? (I already know the answer)

Agreed, I'd say he only has two losses on the record and that's G and AA by a narrow points decision. MM lost himself that fight with AA, needed to show that workrate that he did against Sturm to beat someone like AA. He just got exposed again vs groves

Let's at least give him the title: The people's champ. He deserved to win at least one major fight. The only clear loss was against Golovkin. The people's champ. http://www.livefight.com/images/pages/14465037921427559612mm1.jpg He'll still lose a Split Decision for the people's champ belt

More like "The Nearly Man" or "The Glorious Failure" He beat Martinez but I had him losing to both Sturm and Abraham. :wtf: I agree with dirk!

He was shafted against Sergio. He dropped him with a hard right hand to the head and the referee called it a slip :lol1:.

No one"deserves" a title...you are suppose to "EARN" them Well...that's kinda the point you fcking retard. He earned the win over Martinez wether he was on the slide or not, who gives a fck, Sergio was still the champ at that time and Murray went over to his back yard and beat him fair and square. He did ''EARN'' that title and was quite clearly robbed. It's funny you mention earning titles as Murray was not as smart as others obviously. He could have gone down the Adrien Broner route of earning titles by beating all time greats such as erm erm Eloy Perez and Gavin Rees and Paulie Mailinaggi to become the twenty three time world champion in fourteen different weight divisions champ he is today and maybe then he'd have earnt them in your eyes? Murray was never the most talented boxer in the world but he was quite clearly robbed against Sergio and for a ex con who was never the most naturally talented boxer in the world he deserves massive amounts of respect.

I think he's unfortunate not to have won a world title. He could/should of been given the nod in his first 2 attempts IMO. Respect to him, all his attempts have been on the road and against quality opposition. There's plenty of champions out there who have won a title taking lesser fights.

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No one"deserves" a title...you are suppose to "EARN" them Not always the case, that fight at the weekend reminded me that Canelo won a vacant world title against Matthew Hatton and Cotto 'earned' one against Michael Jennings.

No one"deserves" a title...you are suppose to "EARN" them

He blew it against Abraham. Hard to fathom but you can only assume he felt the power and was tentative. Abraham looked bad.

He fought the same super duper slow pace that Abraham sets, literally played into his hands he showed glimpses that he could beat him but not enough following up from then on. Combo up on the punches press AA on the backfoot and he'd have likely won this fight but he only did it here and there, I thought Murray might have been onto KOing him when he landed that right hand. He was better than Abraham, he just blew it. All you have to do with Abraham is back him up and he will go into that defensive shell every time you throw. When he goes into that she'll you tee off - rinse and repeat. Murray did the backing him up part, got him into that defensive shell....then he just backed off and let him come forward. It was beyond frustrating to see him do that every round. He said he studied the Froch fight 20+ times in the lead up, but it didn't look that way. He didn't once throw heavy shots when AA was shelled up, Froch done it several times every round.

The word title and Murray should not be used together in a sentence. You could call him TBM- The British Matthysse. :lol1::lol1::lol1:

Why??? he lost and is not World class

I've said some bad things about Murray in the past.Not no more though,he deserves his due.Fighting away all the time and not against pushovers either must be hard on you mentally. Robbed in 2 of his 4 world title fights,he was definitely beat against AA though.

I like Murray, he's a tough kid and not an easy mark for anyone, but he's also a step below the top tier. He didn't beat Sturm, should probably have got the nod against a Maravilla who was already on the slide and could have beaten AA - albeit a slightly faded version - if he'd kept up the pressure a bit more. The kid deserves props, and should probably be able to keep getting fights as a legitimate 'opponent' but simply doesn't have the talent to make it to the top level.

I was gonna make a thread actually. He deserves a ton of respect even if I didnt actually have him winning any of his big fights. Went to Germany to fight Sturm. Went to Argentina to fight Martinez. Went to Monte Carlo to fight GGG. Went to Germany again to fight Abraham. Big balls. Fair play to the guy. All except the GGG fight were close, and even then he took a hell of a beating before finally being stopped. Can probably feel unlucky not to have gotten the nod in at least one of his close fights. Not too bad for a guy with limited talent. This is a good post.

I was gonna make a thread actually. He deserves a ton of respect even if I didnt actually have him winning any of his big fights. Went to Germany to fight Sturm. Went to Argentina to fight Martinez. Went to Monte Carlo to fight GGG. Went to Germany again to fight Abraham. Big balls. Fair play to the guy. All except the GGG fight were close, and even then he took a hell of a beating before finally being stopped. Can probably feel unlucky not to have gotten the nod in at least one of his close fights. Not too bad for a guy with limited talent.

Real top level fighters toyed with Abraham years ago and gave the blueprint to beating him. Murray wasn't good enough to implement it. Him and Abraham are as bang average as each other.