Canelo has fought Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosely and Mayweather and only has one loss
Bradley has been fighting world champions and titlists back to back since his 140 days
even Khan and Danny Garcia have extensive resumes and not many losses, Garcia has had close fights but is undefeated
Broner with a few wins could have consideration as well.....4 weight titlist and only 25
Are they putting to much into the eye test, and less on the level of opposition and ability to succeed going up in weight
Shut up idiot
Bradley stops khan and you know it
what's that got to do with anything?
and for your information, bradley skipped out on the khan fight years ago, so...
Huuuuuh? Did you go full retard? Never go full retard.
Anyway, back to reality, I think TB is in a lot of p4p lists and has been on mine for quite some time.
Canelo has never really clearly beaten anyone of note to be a top 5 but could be bottom half of top 10. I once had him at 10. But he is definitely top 20, no doubt.
Shut up idiot
Bradley stops khan and you know it
Tim Bradley P4P?... really?
Dude's last three fights are fckin bum bum rios, jesse vergas an diego chaves, that ain't no god damn P4P schedule. Plus his performance in those fights has been average at best besides the KO of bum bum Rios.
As far as Nelo goes, it's just that he just hasnt been dominant enough imo, he has the names i give you that...but what has he done in the ring with them for his skills to be considered P4P?
sht if having the names on your resume would mean everything josesito lopez and jesus soto karass would be ATG P4P's..
Bradley will never get the respect he deserves because he is American plain and simple. It's funny how everyone disrespects the greatest country on earth yet beg to fight or make money here
Huuuuuh? Did you go full retard? Never go full retard.
Anyway, back to reality, I think TB is in a lot of p4p lists and has been on mine for quite some time.
Canelo has never really clearly beaten anyone of note to be a top 5 but could be bottom half of top 10. I once had him at 10. But he is definitely top 20, no doubt.
Canelo has fought Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosely and Mayweather and only has one loss
Bradley has been fighting world champions and titlists back to back since his 140 days
even Khan and Danny Garcia have extensive resumes and not many losses, Garcia has had close fights but is undefeated
Broner with a few wins could have consideration as well.....4 weight titlist and only 25
Are they putting to much into the eye test, and less on the level of opposition and ability to succeed going up in weight
How about you give an example of who he should replace on the list instead of rhyming of their wins?
Also, Broner... GTFO
Its all subjective. I think entirely too much credit is given for guys moving up in weight, especially when you are talking over the course of a career. Broner moving up to 147 from 135 is more impressive to me than his 4 weight class achievement, considering who he beat for those belts, even if it was against Paulie. I think too much credit is given for what someone did years ago as opposed to what they are doing now. Manny is a perfect example of that to me, its like the list includes a participation award or something. Anyways, until someone comes up with a solid set of criteria, most lists will get **** on for various reasons. Hell I know I would get straight blasted for a few of the guys I would include, because I go off more of what I see than anything.I agree moving up is overrated. I don't think moving up in weight makes anyone a better fighter. It just makes them a bigger fighter. What should matter most is how good you are for the weight class you are in right now, today. A boxer should find his best weight class and stay there and try to dominate that class. Pryor, Monzon, Bob Foster, and Hagler all stayed mainly or completely in one weight class and they are all considered all time greats.
I am sure both of them will start showing up more and more in top 10 pound for pound lists after the beautiful fights both of them fought in their latest fights. Give it a little time and it will sink in how consistently good both of these boxers are.
Canelo has fought Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosely and Mayweather and only has one loss
Bradley has been fighting world champions and titlists back to back since his 140 days
even Khan and Danny Garcia have extensive resumes and not many losses, Garcia has had close fights but is undefeated
Broner with a few wins could have consideration as well.....4 weight titlist and only 25
Are they putting to much into the eye test, and less on the level of opposition and ability to succeed going up in weight
Its all subjective. I think entirely too much credit is given for guys moving up in weight, especially when you are talking over the course of a career. Broner moving up to 147 from 135 is more impressive to me than his 4 weight class achievement, considering who he beat for those belts, even if it was against Paulie. I think too much credit is given for what someone did years ago as opposed to what they are doing now. Manny is a perfect example of that to me, its like the list includes a participation award or something. Anyways, until someone comes up with a solid set of criteria, most lists will get **** on for various reasons. Hell I know I would get straight blasted for a few of the guys I would include, because I go off more of what I see than anything.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mHTl6s1v--/us9hx12gtowgu3jvdxx1.jpg
Anyway I have Canelo on mine but not Bradley.
thanks for answering my original simple question
if you knew that, why did you reply in a thread about an imaginary ranking list?? No one is stopping you from not posting
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mHTl6s1v--/us9hx12gtowgu3jvdxx1.jpg
Anyway I have Canelo on mine but not Bradley.
So why did you make a thread crying about "the P4P list"?
There's no such thing.
No ones stopping you having Bradley and Canelo on yours.
if you knew that, why did you reply in a thread about an imaginary ranking list?? No one is stopping you from not posting
both should have been in the top 10 even before their last fights. I dont remember them not being on it but I do remember everyone saying Ring's list was complete chit last time around.
I don't think either were on it....They had brook number 10 ffs and had GGG at number 3:spank:
I cant remember the order but they had Chocolatito, GGG, Kov, Ward, Shinsuke Yamanaka, Brook, Pacquaio, Crawford, Klitschko and rigondeaux
now ***** Sherlock....whats your list, if you have one, Captain Obvious
So why did you make a thread crying about "the P4P list"?
There's no such thing.
No ones stopping you having Bradley and Canelo on yours.
They are on the list if you want them to be.
There's nothing official about a P4P list ffs.
now ***** Sherlock....whats your list, if you have one, Captain Obvious
both should have been in the top 10 even before their last fights. I dont remember them not being on it but I do remember everyone saying Ring's list was complete chit last time around.
What has Bradley done lately??? beat fvcking Rios?
He has one of the best resumes in boxing today
2 division titleholder
His only loss is to an ATG....he has wins over Rios, Hall of famer Marquez, I don't count the Manny win, former titleholders, Miguel Vazquez, Junior Witter, Kendall Holt, Lamont Peterson, Devon Alexander, Provodnikov, Casamayor, Jessie Vargas
He is only 32 and isn't shot....he is a very good all around fighter and has shown no fear in facing stiff competition....He belongs in the top ten p4p
How the hell did the ring put Brook in their and he has one win over a top ten opponent and Bradley has defeated over a half a dozen top ten contenders