With pacman coming off shoulder surgery, taking on a peaking p4p threat like Crawford almost seems like a recipe for taking a sure L. TC is by far the best fighter at 140 and fighting at welterweight wouldn't be a huge disadvantage against the smaller pacman. Crawford naturally is probably the larger man anyways despite campaigning at a full weight class below. His chin has been durable outside of a few shaky moments with Gamboa. It would be shocking if pacman could turn the clock back and stop a prime time threat like crawford (Pac hasn't scored a stoppage since 2009). Pac carries in a big advantage with experience, but TC has one of the most diverse skill sets in the game and knows how to win exchanges. From where I'm sitting the upset would be if Pacman could actually knock off the undefeated future star of Top Rank.
Crawford should and will be the favorite. And not because of the loss to Floyd, but moreso being outboxed in 4 fights with JMM. Ask yourself is 40 year old blown up lightweight JMM better than a 28 year old prime Terrance Crawford with superior handspeed and boxing ability? I don't think so.
Also people don't realize Pac has lost all of his KO power. I mean Bradley, the most featherfisted puncher in the division, was able to KO Rios, and Pacquaio hit Rios with 1000000000000 shots and still never hurt him.
Prime Pac would massacre Crawford, but this version of Pac loses a clear UD 8-4
Crawford's never done anything to show he's better than any version of Marquez that fought Pacquiao.
Crawford has never done anything remotely worth favoring him over Pacquiao, not even Pacquiao right now. And he is far from proven as the best fighter at 140. He might be, but he has a ways to go to prove it.
I'm a Crawford guy and I don't see him bringing anything to the table that Bradley did. I think Bradley is superior.
The definite tools TC brings is superior punching power and more polished technique. I will say Bradley is more athletic, ultra conditioned and iron willed. TC has yet to have his will truly tested but he did show resolve when Gamboa landed big shots on him. Since you bring up Bradley I think him fighting TC would be one heck of a fight. Crawford should be the guy to get the Pacman shot IMO though. He's ready and couldn't be on a better streak.
Crawford's walk around weight is 180 lbs. who would have thought. TC is a bigger man.
He is definitely a live dog. That's why I like it. Win lose or draw for Pac. He fought the best there is till the end.
Yeah there's no doubt TC is the biggest challenge for Pacman and he would get credit for this fight even if he were to lose. Imagine the backlash if he were to fight Khan and KO him in 5. I think they are just using Khan for negotiating leverage though since he is on the Haymon side of things. I think the two real options are TC and Bradley because Pac-Khan isn't big enough business for Arum to leave the in-house model. From that perspective, TC is the fresh match up and the bigger challenge. A third Bradley fight will just play out with Pacman earning another decision victory in a fight we have seen already. TC is probably also a cheaper alternative and Pac likely gets a bigger slice of the pie than against established commodity Bradley. The fact that people are saying this is a pass the torch kind of fight really does show that Pacman at this stage in his career taking on a prime Crawford is a fight where he should be viewed as the under dog. If he were to win it there would be no better way to ride off into the sunset.
Crawford should and will be the favorite. And not because of the loss to Floyd, but moreso being outboxed in 4 fights with JMM. Ask yourself is 40 year old blown up lightweight JMM better than a 28 year old prime Terrance Crawford with superior handspeed and boxing ability? I don't think so.
Also people don't realize Pac has lost all of his KO power. I mean Bradley, the most featherfisted puncher in the division, was able to KO Rios, and Pacquaio hit Rios with 1000000000000 shots and still never hurt him.
Prime Pac would massacre Crawford, but this version of Pac loses a clear UD 8-4
I like Crawford but too many people are giving Pac no credit. Even at this stage, I think Pac can drop Crawford. His speed is still elite and he has the power to keep Crawford at bay. It should be very close at times but when Pac steps on the gas, I think he can overwhelm Crawford.
Crawford's walk around weight is 180 lbs. who would have thought. TC is a bigger man.
He is definitely a live dog. That's why I like it. Win lose or draw for Pac. He fought the best there is till the end.
No fkn kidding? I thought someone was going to argue with me about saying he has a big frame but when I look at the guy it's clear he's got that Tommy Hearns thing going on. Didn't expect 180 though! Wow.
Good analysis IMO.
This is a bad fight for Manny to go out on. Quite possibly a loss.
Arum knows Manny is done and the only way he'll make a Crawford fight is to use Pac as a "pass the torch" sacrifice. It's probably a little earlier than ?Arum was hoping it would happen but he knows Manny's time is up.
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Yea, I completely agree about Arum seeing it that way. It's an investment in Crawford. He's gotta sow those seeds. Even if he won't be around, it's his instinct as a business man. This reminds me of what many speculated Bradley was supposed to be but that didn't work out so great.
Personally, I would prefer Pac fight Provod. Sell it as a "fight for the fans" promising nonstop action. Good win for Pac to end on. I'm not even particularly interested in those two fighting but I don't like seeing legends get sacrificed.
The betting odds are based on where people are going to be laying down their money so I can't speak to that. But, I would favor Crawford to beat Pac. This is a classic passing of the torch fight from old guard to new. Crawford is a step ahead of Pac in terms of speed and reflexes. He doesn't sit in the pocket waiting to get hit. It doesn't play well to Pac's style and is a terrible move, IMO. As someone who likes Pacquiao I really hope he doesn't go for this fight. Even if he wins, he won't look good.
Regarding the size disparity, Crawford has a big frame at 135 with strong, wide shoulders and plenty of space to fill out.
Good analysis IMO.
This is a bad fight for Manny to go out on. Quite possibly a loss.
Arum knows Manny is done and the only way he'll make a Crawford fight is to use Pac as a "pass the torch" sacrifice. It's probably a little earlier than ?Arum was hoping it would happen but he knows Manny's time is up.
Bradley is a better fight for Pac and just as easy for Arum to make.
Who are you talking to? :ugh:
Mayweather had plenty of choices - Thurman, Porter, Brook, Garcia, Cotto rematch etc who were all better than Khan.
Fighting Khan would show that Pacquaio wants an easy knock out comeback. No one needs "balls" to fight Khan - that's pretty much everyone out there at 147 wants to fight him. Easy money, soft chin.
Crawford is far more deserving but to answer the thread - no he obviously wouldn't be the favourite.
Yup khan is a joke. A glass jaw fighter automatically ends up in C class rating. Fix his jaw he can go up to B.
But a jaw is a jaw is a jaw. It can't be fixed. Khan will remain mediocre.
The betting odds are based on where people are going to be laying down their money so I can't speak to that. But, I would favor Crawford to beat Pac. This is a classic passing of the torch fight from old guard to new. Crawford is a step ahead of Pac in terms of speed and reflexes. He doesn't sit in the pocket waiting to get hit. It doesn't play well to Pac's style and is a terrible move, IMO. As someone who likes Pacquiao I really hope he doesn't go for this fight. Even if he wins, he won't look good.
Regarding the size disparity, Crawford has a big frame at 135 with strong, wide shoulders and plenty of space to fill out.
Crawford's walk around weight is 180 lbs. who would have thought. TC is a bigger man.
He is definitely a live dog. That's why I like it. Win lose or draw for Pac. He fought the best there is till the end.
The fight that makes most sense financially and PPV weight wise is not against Terence Crawford however it would be a good thing for Arum and TR stable If he ties down Terence to a further contract by offering Terence this fight similar to what happened with Bradley I think?
Its a win, win for Arum but its not the fight I think everyone would want to see.
Pacquiao Vs Khan for so many reasons is the right fight to make
Khan has a big following
Khan has a lot of haters
Khan just in generally very well known to the media so more people know him
Floyd Mayweather ducked Khan, say what you want but the truth is the truth he had the option of Berto or Khan and he picked Berto I don't care what you say.
Fighting Khan would show Pacquiao has balls and If he beats him its a bigger statement of intent that might just force a final showdown with you know who.
We've already seen Khan fail countless, same vulnerabilities, no adjustments, why should I want to see it again? At least with Crawford we may be able to see something we haven't seen before, he's a thinker in there, even though I don't think he can do anything with Pacquiao at least he can show me something I haven't seen, thats way more than I can say about Khan.
The fight that makes most sense financially and PPV weight wise is not against Terence Crawford however it would be a good thing for Arum and TR stable If he ties down Terence to a further contract by offering Terence this fight similar to what happened with Bradley I think?
Its a win, win for Arum but its not the fight I think everyone would want to see.
Pacquiao Vs Khan for so many reasons is the right fight to make
Khan has a big following
Khan has a lot of haters
Khan just in generally very well known to the media so more people know him
Floyd Mayweather ducked Khan, say what you want but the truth is the truth he had the option of Berto or Khan and he picked Berto I don't care what you say.
Fighting Khan would show Pacquiao has balls and If he beats him its a bigger statement of intent that might just force a final showdown with you know who.
Who are you talking to? :ugh:
Mayweather had plenty of choices - Thurman, Porter, Brook, Garcia, Cotto rematch etc who were all better than Khan.
Fighting Khan would show that Pacquaio wants an easy knock out comeback. No one needs "balls" to fight Khan - that's pretty much everyone out there at 147 wants to fight him. Easy money, soft chin.
Crawford is far more deserving but to answer the thread - no he obviously wouldn't be the favourite.
Crawford is favored in many of the boxing trainers eyes and the writers, Buddy McGirt said Crawford will KO Pac.
I see Crawford who is the naturally bigger guy and taller switching it up on Pacquiao and finishing him off with a combo of power shots.
Crawford is the only fighter in boxing today who can fight comfortably in both stances and not look awkward or uncomfortable doing it.
I believe the fight might be at 140 for Crawfords belt according to Arum.
I think the most lucrative fight is against Amir Khan though, but Pacquiao said he wants to retire after this fight so Arum might have to switch up his plans and feed Pacquiao to Crawford and build Crawford right now to his cash cow.
The betting odds are based on where people are going to be laying down their money so I can't speak to that. But, I would favor Crawford to beat Pac. This is a classic passing of the torch fight from old guard to new. Crawford is a step ahead of Pac in terms of speed and reflexes. He doesn't sit in the pocket waiting to get hit. It doesn't play well to Pac's style and is a terrible move, IMO. As someone who likes Pacquiao I really hope he doesn't go for this fight. Even if he wins, he won't look good.
Regarding the size disparity, Crawford has a big frame at 135 with strong, wide shoulders and plenty of space to fill out.
not sure if he'll be the favorite to win because if that happens I'll put big money on pacquiao, I like that matchup doe, more quality fight than khan perhaps
Crawford will violently retire Pac
I'm hoping Pac avoids this fight like a plague. Pac vs Matthyse - a safe fight between two washed up fighters for Pac to get a W in.