Same day weigh ins

What "Rockin" is stating is very true however we have trainers and fighters taking advantage of the added time. The safety factor was original moving championship rounds down to 12 from 15 because the vatique factor gets very dangerous from 13 thru 15rds. A normal rehydration would be 7 to 10 pounds, we now have fighters gaining 20+ and thats dangerous in itself when you add stress factors during a fight. The junior division were established for "young men" who were still growing in and out of weight classes. A man leaving 135 didn't have to be in shape at 141 and give away 12lbs to a rehydrated 147pounder as he moved into welter. To have Titles in these weights is just the boxing federations taking advantage of the sport to add more classes to enable more profits. Rios is the perfect example of a completely out of shape fighter having to make weight by "who knows" measures, it wasn't hard work he didn't have the time to shed 40+ to make 147 and maintain normal training camp. He stated during week he wanted to quit yet his wife, trainer and management didn't care about him they wanted their piece of a pie! Theres no other reason for him to show up other than their greed!!! It was like looking at Ali disrope against Holmes and seeing Ali in his prime ast 217lb but thats all he did for training was to get to a weight that made him look like the greatest again. When I saw his physique I knew he had no chance! Just like looking at Rios except he rehydrated into the Pillsbury Dough Boy. He had No Chance against an in shape hungry fighter who put the right time in. You can weighin the day before but a cut down of 10lbs the night of the weight limit doesn't allow advantages or health risks. Ray

Last nite Rios weighed in at 173 lbs. Same day weigh ins were abandoned to protect fighters (and the promoters purse) but now it sems a fighter could be facing an opponent who is 2 weight classes above him. Same day weigh ins would make fighters compete in their natural weight class. This might make things more fair and even protect fighters. I agree, it's a huge problem. I'm not quite sure the medical research behind this specific issue but as a med student, I do know that dehydration has an adverse effect and the brain and cognition. So, a better solution maybe a weight limit, in terms of how much can be gained from weigh in to fight night. A max of 5 pounds imo. Right now, we have light heavyweights fighting for welterweight straps, that's ridiculous.

Another reason Rios is retiring...he can't make 147 anymore...LOL. Divisions would get shook up HUGELY with same day weigh ins.... most people would be moving up a division. 99.99% of all boxers

imo the fight night limit should be just below the upper limit of the next weight class up, e.g. a WW shouldn't be more than 153.9 lbs during the fight. the only way i can think of to ensure that they don't game the weight limits by draining themselves is to weigh them again immediately after the fight, like as soon as they exit the ring, and then punish them if they have failed to make weight, i.e. strip their titles, reverse the result and apply a fine and/or ban, just as if they'd failed a drug test. this is a preventative method that wouldn't merely cause fighters to dehydrate themselves even more harshly That idea is really stupid. Some fighters, especially in the higher weighclasses lose up to 15 pounds of water in a 12 round fight...

imo the fight night limit should be just below the upper limit of the next weight class up, e.g. a WW shouldn't be more than 153.9 lbs during the fight. the only way i can think of to ensure that they don't game the weight limits by draining themselves is to weigh them again immediately after the fight, like as soon as they exit the ring, and then punish them if they have failed to make weight, i.e. strip their titles, reverse the result and apply a fine and/or ban, just as if they'd failed a drug test. this is a preventative method that wouldn't merely cause fighters to dehydrate themselves even more harshly

friday weigh ins are designed to make fights, particularly those in casinos, a two day event. people gamble twice, stay for an extra night at the hotel, have twice the opportunities to shop, use restarants, etc. they're not going anywhere. they might start to mandate another weigh in on the day of the fight, bt you should get used to the idea that fighters in big fights will be weighing in on friday, and fighting satruday.

It's a double edged sword. Getting rid of the junior and super divisions would be a better idea imo. I just can't see the likes of Canelo, Andrade as 154 lbs it's a joke. They wouldn't be able to make 147 so they would have to fight at 160 and that adds much more comp in the division plus the weight will be closer to what they walk around at.

I don't watch the sport or train in it to see people getting killed. It's a risk of the sport but as a fan I'm happy with a compromise to lessen the chance of witnessing people killed in the ring. This isn't aimed at you, there's plenty of sickos out there, whether it's Arabs filling stadiums to see someone stoned to death or weirdos creating a market for gore videos & beheading. But these fukwits would have to be off the scale if the tables were turned & it was their loved ones in the videos with Joe nobody's watching their loved ones for kicks. I feel the active weight class is the better move..say 160 fighter can't weigh in over 168 at any time unless retired or injured. If not retired : carrying no injury they can't go over 168 & then start their cut through training. You'd more likely see fighters gaining less post weigh in & competing 8lbs heavier on fight night as their body would gave been accustomed to the weight. 147 fighter..155 walking round weght, 154 fighter...162 walking round weight. It would mean more checks on pro fighter but treated like testing & unannounced it would force fighters to stay on weight or move up. Costs wouldnt be that of ped testing as it would be a case of standing on a calibrated scale. It's wishful thinking but I think it would work

On the day weigh ins were abandoned due to medical advice & in an attempt to make the sport safer. You always had guys cutting weight but the lack of recovery time with same day weigh ins would see the fighter competing in a dehydrated state. I feel a safer approach is that fighters should be forced when active to maintain a certain weight & placed in whichever weight class they fall into. It would even the playing field & remove some of this weight play That was Flip Homansky's theory, and the reason why he was the driving force behind the change. The problem with his position though is that he changed the system to accommodate those who were trying to gain an advantage, at the expense of those who are fighting in their proper division. Any medical or physical problems due to massive weight cutting is a self-inflicted condition, and I have no sympathy for them. But dont look for any promoters or other power players to support changing it. They like having the extra day of promotion and press releases that the weigh in provides.

On the day weigh ins were abandoned due to medical advice & in an attempt to make the sport safer. You always had guys cutting weight but the lack of recovery time with same day weigh ins would see the fighter competing in a dehydrated state. I feel a safer approach is that fighters should be forced when active to maintain a certain weight & placed in whichever weight class they fall into. It would even the playing field & remove some of this weight play

Good post. But I think a judge can score a round 10-10. That being said judging in boxing is a bad joke. Seems like a knockout punch is the only thing fair in the whole sport.

That's how it should be. A lot of weight cheaters around. It's not only the weight that hurt Rios, it is because he isn't that good. A good or great boxer weighing that much over his opponent can be a huge danger to the smaller man. Let's implement it!

Rios made a career out of pulling that crap. His whole claim to fame at LW was him being a bigger guy than the rest. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I have been a big boxing fan for a long time including decades of same day weigh ins. I really can't remember any problems with them. The system worked just fine. There may have been some problems but I don't remember any. I think changing to weighing in in the early afternoon the day before the fight was a terrible idea and didn't protect the boxers at all. It encourages extreme ways to compete in a weight class much smaller than the boxer should be fighting in. Rios is a good example. He weighs in at 147 and enters the ring as a 173 pound light heavyweight. He didn't benefit from the extreme weight gain and he fought a sluggish, terrible fight. It still isn't fair for him to outweigh Bradley by 15 pounds. That would have been impossible in the same day weigh in days. Boxers never gained more than 5 or 6 pounds between the weigh in and the fight. Not all rule changes are good for boxing. Not allowing judges to score an even round even was also a bad change and partly responsible for so many lousy scorecards turned in by the judges. The judges tend to give all the rounds they would have scored even to their favorite fighter. Judges have their favorite boxers just like all boxing fans. Now you often get one judge scoring a lopsided score for one boxer and another judge scoring a lopsided win for the other boxer. It could be that all the rounds they would have scored even are given to the boxer they like best. Scoring an even round even is a tool judges should be allowed to use. Rios may not be the best example of why I think we should return to same day weigh ins. Rios is a fatso and could fight at 135 or 140 with a better diet and harder training. Chavez might be a better example. He consistently came into the ring at 180 pounds for his middleweight fights and had a big size and weight advantage over other middleweights. The idea of day before weigh ins is so guys aren't fighting dehydrated from trying to make weight. I like the stipulation of a rehydration clause limiting the amount of weight fighters can put on between the weigh in and fight. And who says judges can't score even rounds?

same day, five days before the fight weight in does not matter as long as he will not be more than 5 lbs of the max weight allowed at the division they will be fighting on the night of the fight.

I have been a big boxing fan for a long time including decades of same day weigh ins. I really can't remember any problems with them. The system worked just fine. There may have been some problems but I don't remember any. I think changing to weighing in in the early afternoon the day before the fight was a terrible idea and didn't protect the boxers at all. It encourages extreme ways to compete in a weight class much smaller than the boxer should be fighting in. Rios is a good example. He weighs in at 147 and enters the ring as a 173 pound light heavyweight. He didn't benefit from the extreme weight gain and he fought a sluggish, terrible fight. It still isn't fair for him to outweigh Bradley by 15 pounds. That would have been impossible in the same day weigh in days. Boxers never gained more than 5 or 6 pounds between the weigh in and the fight. Not all rule changes are good for boxing. Not allowing judges to score an even round even was also a bad change and partly responsible for so many lousy scorecards turned in by the judges. The judges tend to give all the rounds they would have scored even to their favorite fighter. Judges have their favorite boxers just like all boxing fans. Now you often get one judge scoring a lopsided score for one boxer and another judge scoring a lopsided win for the other boxer. It could be that all the rounds they would have scored even are given to the boxer they like best. Scoring an even round even is a tool judges should be allowed to use. Rios may not be the best example of why I think we should return to same day weigh ins. Rios is a fatso and could fight at 135 or 140 with a better diet and harder training. Chavez might be a better example. He consistently came into the ring at 180 pounds for his middleweight fights and had a big size and weight advantage over other middleweights.

Last nite Rios weighed in at 173 lbs. Same day weigh ins were abandoned to protect fighters (and the promoters purse) but now it sems a fighter could be facing an opponent who is 2 weight classes above him. Same day weigh ins would make fighters compete in their natural weight class. This might make things more fair and even protect fighters. And you saw what cutting that much did to rios. There's a threshold where it becomes detrimental.

Another reason Rios is retiring...he can't make 147 anymore...LOL. Divisions would get shook up HUGELY with same day weigh ins.... most people would be moving up a division.

People will always cut weight to gain an edge