Manny vs. Crawford, who ya got?

I would go with Crawford, he is solid and composed in the ring, he fights like a veteran. I think he is the next big star in boxing.

This account is definitely Bob Arum pretending to be a Boxing fan. Hey Bob, We dont want to see Pac fight that unproven crapbag.. No backstory, no drama. What we DO want to see is your solid gold coffin being lowered closer to the pits of Hell....so go have a bacon donut sandwich some vodka and a a few packs of cigarettes while we try to find other good fighters to watch that aren't under your slave contracts being forced to fight whoever gets the most money into your greedy pockets instead of fights the fans wanna see. Yeah, this has to be an alt, because no one would actually post something this stupid with their main account. Come back to me when TC makes it a great fight, or he beats Manny in a boring decision. You clearly don't know **** about boxing.

Bradley won rounds went all 12 Marquez won rounds and stopped him Rios lasted all 12 Algeiri lasted all 12 Botto line is , pac is/was a intense high energy pressure fighter who has lost his Hunger , and has lost a not a step but two steps.lac burned out which happens to his style this age .His stamina has dropped , his output has dropped , his kos have stopped and his Intensity has dropped. his body fails him at this age. All this plus he got brutally knocked out cold by his rival. There is no doubt he is a shot fighter. Thoughts of rerirement out the exclamation point on this. he has one foot out the door already. Crawford is the whole package and he is prime . This fight couldnt be happening at More perfect moment for TC. Crawford by 10th rd tko in a fight he is in full control of

When he beats Crawford's ass, never come here again. Manny has forgotten more about boxing than TC KNOWS. Did you not watch May 2nd? Wait, let me guess, you're a Floyd fan? Manny's hanging on to the past???? Hahahaha! Crawford better pray Manny is OLD or else he gets KO'ed. Pacquiao hasn't knocked out anyone, he got knocked out though and was embarassed last May 02. I don't feel like bringing it up but since you obliged. I'm confident Crawford will beat Manny.

Got Manny in a barn burner, but not sleeping on Crawford at all. This account is definitely Bob Arum pretending to be a Boxing fan. Hey Bob, We dont want to see Pac fight that unproven crapbag.. No backstory, no drama. What we DO want to see is your solid gold coffin being lowered closer to the pits of Hell....so go have a bacon donut sandwich some vodka and a a few packs of cigarettes while we try to find other good fighters to watch that aren't under your slave contracts being forced to fight whoever gets the most money into your greedy pockets instead of fights the fans wanna see.

Tough call. All depends on Manny's health coming back. If he's recovered and mentally motivated and sharp, then I would slightly lean towards him. What makes this interesting is that Crawford knows how to counter moving backwards.

Let it go man. He lost. It's half a year ago too. Life is too short to try to change history of something that isn't that important. It's just a boxing match and the correct decision was made about who won. If anyone has time to sit and edit a full fight into a 5 minute video to try and prove something that doesn't exist, then i feel bad for them. It's just entertainment at the end of the day, don't let it get you down to the point of looking desperate about something that actually has no real impact on you as a person. Just let it go. Nothing is going to change the fact that Mayweather won and rightly was awarded the win. No amount of edited videos or bitter words can change it. I say this as a neutral, i didn't care about who won. I just call it as i see it. Just because Pacquiao lost, it doesn't take away all the great achievements of his. He just lost a fight to another great fighter. Not worth being upset about.

Also, don't rule out a Robbery if it goes to the cards and fairly close. Arum needs a star and it will be a big audience. He tried it with Bradley by robbing his own guy Pacquiao because he knew he needed a new guy, it backfired because everyone could see he didn't win. If this fight happens and it's anything near to a close fight, Arum won't think twice about having the judges rob Pacquiao of a victory, if it's his last fight. Arum is lower than a snakes belly and doing this would be nothing to him. I agree - ifs its remotely close I think Crawford will get the nod. Arum would happily rob Many for a few more bucks...

Floyd didn't win... Didn't snap his head back once? Ha, he did that twice in the first round alone. I understand you're a Pacquiao fan so i wont bite too much. I'm a neutral and i call it how i see it. I don't buy the shoulder injury being as bad as they said, he was still swinging wildly at times during the later rounds. I've seen guys with that injury that could barely lift a glass of water to their mouth, ask David Haye about his. I don't care how tough a guy is, that's an awful injury, you physically can't throw anything with it, Manny did. Anyway this debate is done to death and boring, i'll be glad when both guys are retired to be honest. So lets not focus on the past, it's history now and neither guy come out of it looking great. My point was that people cant judge Manny just because he lost to Floyd. I personally felt Floyd did a good job in that fight and found a way to deal with Manny's style and get the win, so he did outbox him in my opinion. there's more to boxing than just throwing shots. A guy like JMM or Mayweather will always pose problems for Manny, no matter who you think won any of those fights. Styles make fights. But Manny IS a smart fighter in his own right and a guy like Crawford's style will give Manny less of a headache than JMM or Mayweather will. It will allow Manny to fight his usual fight more, and IF! he has anything left, i don't think Crawford can live with that. Manny is deceptively smart and if his physical tools are still good for a fight or two, i think Crawford isn't experienced enough to deal with his IQ or athleticism yet.

Most guys go on a streak of losses at the end of their careers, will this be Pacquiao's?

50/50 fight as it stands. Reason being is that Pac isnt even a full time fighter anymore. His focus is more on politics than boxing.

Hahaha!!! He's done brah. He's just another fighter hanging on to his past When he beats Crawford's ass, never come here again. Manny has forgotten more about boxing than TC KNOWS. Did you not watch May 2nd? Wait, let me guess, you're a Floyd fan? Manny's hanging on to the past???? Hahahaha! Crawford better pray Manny is OLD or else he gets KO'ed.

why is he done??? He's done brah. He's just another fighter hanging on to his past

manny, but im sure arum will pay him off to lose and Crawford will be the next best thing. Crawford will try to use floyds blueprint but I don't know if he has the tools

Also, don't rule out a Robbery if it goes to the cards and fairly close. Arum needs a star and it will be a big audience. He tried it with Bradley by robbing his own guy Pacquiao because he knew he needed a new guy, it backfired because everyone could see he didn't win. If this fight happens and it's anything near to a close fight, Arum won't think twice about having the judges rob Pacquiao of a victory, if it's his last fight. Arum is lower than a snakes belly and doing this would be nothing to him.

See. This is a good post besides the "Floyd outboxed Manny part". It's more complicated than that really. Floyd didn't outbox Manny. He tried BUT he was unsuccessful. Floyd was good at giving you the impression that he was in control and that he was outboxing Manny. The truth is, he wasn't doing much of anything effective. Manny took away Floyd's amateurish jab, his jabs to the body, and his right hand. He never snapped Manny's head back once in 12 rounds. Why? Because Manny is smarter than we all imagined. His ring IQ and reflexes matched Floyd's. Everyone thought Manny had to be more aggressive but he didn't. He is more gifted than Floyd, physically and the fight proved it. He had one arm after four rounds and still made Floyd look "ordinary". If you're an honest poster, you would never say that Floyd outboxed Manny. Because it's not true. Didn't snap his head back once? Ha, he did that twice in the first round alone. I understand you're a Pacquiao fan so i wont bite too much. I'm a neutral and i call it how i see it. I don't buy the shoulder injury being as bad as they said, he was still swinging wildly at times during the later rounds. I've seen guys with that injury that could barely lift a glass of water to their mouth, ask David Haye about his. I don't care how tough a guy is, that's an awful injury, you physically can't throw anything with it, Manny did. Anyway this debate is done to death and boring, i'll be glad when both guys are retired to be honest. So lets not focus on the past, it's history now and neither guy come out of it looking great. My point was that people cant judge Manny just because he lost to Floyd. I personally felt Floyd did a good job in that fight and found a way to deal with Manny's style and get the win, so he did outbox him in my opinion. there's more to boxing than just throwing shots. A guy like JMM or Mayweather will always pose problems for Manny, no matter who you think won any of those fights. Styles make fights. But Manny IS a smart fighter in his own right and a guy like Crawford's style will give Manny less of a headache than JMM or Mayweather will. It will allow Manny to fight his usual fight more, and IF! he has anything left, i don't think Crawford can live with that. Manny is deceptively smart and if his physical tools are still good for a fight or two, i think Crawford isn't experienced enough to deal with his IQ or athleticism yet.

If Manny catches TC with some of the shots Jean caught him with, I think TC gets put to sleep. He will at least get knocked down. Crawford ahs the 3 inch height and reach advantage which he should be able to box effectively from the outside. If it's at 140, how does that affect Manny? I will wait until its announced before I make a pick. I hope Crawford gets the fight, although I'd prefer a true WW.

The problem is... Yeah but he threw and landed twice as many punches as Pac did. Anyway Crawford is good but he's done nothing yet to suggest he can beat Pacquiao if he has anything left in the tank. I'm not saying he can't win, but it would be foolish to write off Pacquiao until it's proven he's totally shot. Losing to Floyd doesn't prove anybody is shot, he was just outboxed, it happens. See. This is a good post besides the "Floyd outboxed Manny part". It's more complicated than that really. Floyd didn't outbox Manny. He tried BUT he was unsuccessful. Floyd was good at giving you the impression that he was in control and that he was outboxing Manny. The truth is, he wasn't doing much of anything effective. Manny took away Floyd's amateurish jab, his jabs to the body, and his right hand. He never snapped Manny's head back once in 12 rounds. Why? Because Manny is smarter than we all imagined. His ring IQ and reflexes matched Floyd's. Everyone thought Manny had to be more aggressive but he didn't. He is more gifted than Floyd, physically and the fight proved it. He had one arm after four rounds and still made Floyd look "ordinary". If you're an honest poster, you would never say that Floyd outboxed Manny. Because it's not true.

Not sold on Crawford yet but its a huge step up for the kid so why not. :boxing:

As long as Manny remains relatively healthy it'll be pretty hard to beat him. He's got an experience and speed advantage. I got Pac all day....