GREAT G and others

Let da bidnessmen have dey party @ GGG's PPV numbers

The fight should be made immediately, it blows my mind when fans want great fights to be put off so they can build the hype. All this build the fight **** is why these fights usually end up not happening. When the fights hot, make it. What do the PPV numbers have to do with Cotto or Canelo feeling like they shouldn't face him now anyway? Its the fight to be made at middleweight and its been ordered by the WBC so the winner will either face GGG or be stripped. If the winner refuses to fight him and gets stripped for it they will be just like Bowe throwing his belt in the trash rather than fighting Lennox Lewis, that's a terrible look for a boxer, basically saying " I cant beat you so just take my belt". I actually like Cotto and Canelo so id hate to see the winner pull that **** after their fight. I get what you're saying and I would like to see that fight immediately but we know Canelo and Cotto don't need the WBC belt. If the negotiations dont meet their desire then they won't mind skipping over GGG, lets be real. What I said earlier about facing a few other people to build the fight will eventually force Cotto/Canelo to face GGG. Not only public pressure will be on them, since GGG would be known to casuals, the financial incentive would be there also. Since those two things are missing from a potential GGG vs Canelo/Cotto fight as of now, the chances of that happening so soon are slim.

nah its the italian flag... I think its the same color concept except mejico has a design in the middle. It is the Mexican flag, the one on the right is Mexico and the one on the left is Italy or ireland not sure. the mexican flag is for chavez jr O I C

lol at cotto's debut

You knew all that before the fight and you predicted over 350k. Little G is a flop just admit it. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=686253 Oh sh1t :lol1:

GGG did just fine . this not including Canadian ppv which I heard is over 78k

How much time did it take to find this? Anyway point taken. For his first PPV, against a relative unknown, GGG did well. However not well enough to really have Cotto or Canelo feel they have to face him immediately. I'd like the winner of Cotto/Canelo fight the winner of Saunders/Lee and the winner of that can fight the winner of GGG/Quillin or Jacobs. Assuming the Cotto/Canelo winner beats Saunders/Lee, which I believe will happen and GGG beats Jacobs/Quillin which I also believe will happen then it will provide the hype and anticipation the fight deserves. GGG vs Canelo/Cotto is a huge fight and it deserves the hype and excitement of one. The fight should be made immediately, it blows my mind when fans want great fights to be put off so they can build the hype. All this build the fight **** is why these fights usually end up not happening. When the fights hot, make it. What do the PPV numbers have to do with Cotto or Canelo feeling like they shouldn't face him now anyway? Its the fight to be made at middleweight and its been ordered by the WBC so the winner will either face GGG or be stripped. If the winner refuses to fight him and gets stripped for it they will be just like Bowe throwing his belt in the trash rather than fighting Lennox Lewis, that's a terrible look for a boxer, basically saying " I cant beat you so just take my belt". I actually like Cotto and Canelo so id hate to see the winner pull that **** after their fight.

Is that Mexican Flag on the poster LOL. the mexican flag is for chavez jr

Is that Mexican Flag on the poster LOL. nah its the italian flag... I think its the same color concept except mejico has a design in the middle.

GGG Nation in full Damage Control Mode :lol1: They all thought this was going to be a rousing success. Tanked.

http://www.kofightposters.com/images/items/234/0.jpg Is that Mexican Flag on the poster LOL.

All those numbers were pre social media! Where back there the promotions was really word of mouth.

some random numbers :bottle::bottle: 1993 Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez – 125 000 1995 Tommy Morrison vs Donovan Ruddock – no report was given. 1995 Roy Jones Jr. vs Vinny Pazienza – 160 000 1997 Roy Jones Jr. vs Montell Griffin – 160 000 2000 Roy Jones Jr. vs Eric Harding – 125 000 2002 Erik Morales Vs Paulie Ayala – 120 000 2003 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Kevin Kelley – no report was given. 2003 Erik Morales vs Guty Espadas Jr. II – no report was given. 2003 Evander Holyfield vs James Toney – 150 000 2003 Bernard Hopkins vs William Joppy – no report was given. 2004 Fres Oquendo vs John Ruiz, Andrew Golota vs Chris Byrd – 180 000 2004 Mike Tyson vs Danny Williams – 150 000 2004 Erik Morales vs Carlos Hernandez – 140 000 2004 Vitali Klitschko vs Danny Williams – 120 000 2005 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Mzonke Fana – 75 000 2005 Julio Cesar Chavez vs Ivan Robinson – 100 000 2005 Hasim Rahman vs Monte Barrett – 30 000 2005 Shannon Briggs vs Ray Mercer – 10 000 2005 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Robbie Peden – 110 000 2006 Antonio Margarito vs Manuel Gomez – 70 000 2006 Miguel Cotto vs Paulie Malignaggi – 90 000 (<--------------- look at cotto's debut on PPV) 2006 Oleg Maskaev vs Hasim Rahman – 60 000 2006 Marco Antonio Barrera vs Rocky Juarez II – 165 000 2007 Roy Jones Jr. vs Anthony Hanshaw – 25 000 2007 David Diaz vs Erik Morales – 100 000 2007 Evander Holyfield vs Sultan Ibragimov – 75 000 2008 Juan Manuel Marquez vs Joel Casamayor – 100 000 2010 Roy Jones Jr. vs Bernard Hopkins II – 150 000 2010 Evander Holyfield vs Francois Botha – no report was given 2011 Evander Holyfield vs Sherman William – no report was given. 2011 Erik Morales vs Marcos Maidana – 50 000 (<---------------------) 2011 Bernard Hopkins vs Chad Dawson – 40 000 2013 Timothy Bradley vs Juan Manuel Marquez – no report was given. K2 and HBO - they should keep doing the work they are doing for GREAT G. G vs Quillin/Jacobs winner is a PPV fight, hot and extremely big. G vs Froch is a definitely big dual-PPV (US/UK) fight (if Carl decides to fight). G vs Canelo G vs Cotto Do you realize that Cotto-Malignaggi was a Top Rank Closed Circuit PPV not an HBO ppv? "It's a big problem," Greenburg continues. "It's getting harder and harder to put fighters like Manny Pacquiao on HBO World Championship Boxing. If Floyd Mayweather beats Oscar, he might never fight on HBO World Championship Boxing again. But if HBO stopped doing pay-per-view, the promoters would simply do it on their own or find someone else who will do it for them." http://www.kofightposters.com/images/items/234/0.jpg Then, in 2006, Arum matched Cotto against Paulie Malignaggi, only to learn that HBO was planning a pay-per-view telecast of Bernard Hopkins versus Antonio Tarver from Atlantic City on the same night. http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing-news/usa-boxing-news/bob-arum-mans-the-ramparts-with-cotto-judah Cotto's 1st HBO PPV was vs Judah and that did 225K+ buys.

So GGGoat blew away all PPv debut expectations, just another day in the life

Cotto-Malignaggi was competing against Hopkins-Tarver fighting on the same night. "It will do just over 150,000 buys, which was the number we originally based things on when we talked to Golden Boy about making the fight to determine how much Lemieux would need and what Gennady would need," Loeffler said. During the buildup to the fight, Loeffler was bullish that the event could exceed their initial expectations because of how much buzz the fight was getting and the fact that they sold out Madison Square Garden. But faced with tremendous competition from college football games and a popular National League Championship Series between the New York Mets and Chicago Cubs -- involving two huge markets -- the fight suffered, Loeffler said. "I thought it would have a good chance to break 200,000, but with all the college football games and no way to predict the Mets would be playing the Cubs -- a high-end playoff series -- it was tough," he said. "A lot of people were watching baseball in those big markets, but overall, we were happy with the event. When you can sell every single ticket to Madison Square Garden and generate a gate of over $2 million, you're happy." "Golovkin-Lemieux met or exceeded every benchmark of success which was set going into the event," Taffet told ESPN.com. "The PPV buys solidly met expectations even amidst the Mets-Cubs national telecast registering the highest-ever TBS baseball playoff viewership, including the PPV-critical markets of New York and Chicago. This, combined with the palpable excitement of the sold-out crowd in Madison Square Garden and the in-ring performances by Gennady Golovkin and 'Chocolatito' Gonzalez, encourage us that the next great era of boxing has begun and will continue with the highly-anticipated Cotto-Canelo megafight on Nov. 21." "A lot of people focus on the American market, but he had one of the highest rated international shows in the U.K. on BoxNation, on SAT.1 in Germany and the biggest channel in Russia. He was also on Polsat, the biggest channel in Poland, for the first time. And on top of that, the Garden told us we broke the merchandise record for any boxing event there: over $122,000."

Good find. I thought you looked up each fight individually. well almost (at least I was trying) and then i found this article :burnout:

here is the link Good find. I thought you looked up each fight individually.

How much time did it take to find this? here is the link

How much time did it take to find this? Anyway point taken. For his first PPV, against a relative unknown, GGG did well. However not well enough to really have Cotto or Canelo feel they have to face him immediately. I'd like the winner of Cotto/Canelo fight the winner of Saunders/Lee and the winner of that can fight the winner of GGG/Quillin or Jacobs. Assuming the Cotto/Canelo winner beats Saunders/Lee, which I believe will happen and GGG beats Jacobs/Quillin which I also believe will happen then it will provide the hype and anticipation the fight deserves. GGG vs Canelo/Cotto is a huge fight and it deserves the hype and excitement of one.

such silence has an actual sound, the sound of disappearance :rofl::rofl: