Whats ruining Boxing and what keeps it afloat?

I would like to see an organization have a yearly weekend of boxing that they force all their champions to defend their titles. Like have all 16 divisional champions defend their belt on one of those nights and if they can't do it then they get penalized somehow. An event that fans can pin down on their calendars. I like this idea. Have a boxing weekend starting Thursday till Sunday a whole weekend in Vegas where there are big fights held in each day. Do this 4 times a year and the boxing fans will love it. The rest of the mismatches can be on PBC,ESPN,HBO and Showtime. I could care less get rid of them all and have just one company broadcast the fights on TV and focus on making huge events for the fans in big cities in the U.S. Thursday night Crawford-Postol Friday night Danny Garcia vs Khan rematch Saturday night Koleav vs Stevenson Sunday afternoon Chocolalito vs Estrada rematch There you have it. A whole weekend of good fights in Vegas promote the **** out of it call it "Boxingpalooza" I don't care but that would be cool. Who wouldn't want to go to Vegas to watch all these fights???

1) Fighters fighting who they want instead of fighting the best ones. 2) Clinch and other illegal defenses not being penalized, which causes the rage in all the casual fans and harcore fans, with the exception of a few that think that clinching is a valid tactic. 3) Not everyone having the same chance to use PEDs. 4) Fighters that drain themselves to make weight for lower divisions. They should not be able to put on so much weight, there should be a limit. Canelo for example is a disgrace who pretends to be a Jr Middleweight.

I would like to see an organization have a yearly weekend of boxing that they force all their champions to defend their titles. Like have all 16 divisional champions defend their belt on one of those nights and if they can't do it then they get penalized somehow. An event that fans can pin down on their calendars. Good idea. Instead we get the supposed number 1 p4p wanting 4 total tune up s for a year. Or organizations bending their own rules to keep a popular fighter paying their sanctioning fees.

What keeps boxing going is that people love fist fighting and the excitement that comes from it's violence. What ruins boxing is it is basically a totally free market. Everyone in boxing is trying to get theirs, which isn't a problem but with no central authority to regulate things it will be all over the place. It is why you can't have a totally free market because there are so many ways things can be taken advantage of with no sort of recourse. I am generally a fan of the free market deciding things, but when things go awry it is good to have some regulations that has some authority over it.

Tuning in to crap fights and mismatches DOES hurt the sport. Just as buying crap ppv's hurts the sport in the sense that if they can continue to put out crap and people are willing to pay for it, then they will continue to do so. I dont support mismatches but you apparently do. I support bouts that I know or have a feeling will be entertaining. That's what boxing is to me. Entertainment. I enjoyed last wknds PBC card (Peterson/Diaz). I didnt tune into the Fonfara/Cleverly fight because I had no idea it was on until after it had aired. Unlike you, I have a life and cant be home everytime there's a PBC card on. This is one of the things that is hurting PBC. Their cards are sporadic. Its hard to build a regular following when you're all over the place. Ok, at least we can agree on the 1st paragraph. What generally happens though is the real fans buy all fights. I have not purchased a few PPV's for this reason. I support all fights, bad or good. Remember as much as I have complained about some mismatches on HBO, I watch them. I don't fake boycott. OK, my point is you can't know a fight is entertaining until it actually happens. I don't go by what is on paper. You've said this before. We all have lives dude. But I am a diehard fan so I make time in my schedule for the sport. Married, young kids, 9-5, mortgage no different than you. If anything, I appreciate alternate times so I can watch live fights on other days. You don't its fine with me. Guess we just see things differently and have contrasting expectations of fans.

Changing what I wrote is weak. Watching the sport doesn't hurt the sport. No, you do not have to accept anything. But since I watch a lot of boxing on TV, I know that while there have been weak major cards, there have been strong minor cards that I enjoyed despite the fact they got low ratings overall. Its like voting. You can't complain if you don't vote. Worse, if you vote in every presidential election but don't vote in the smaller ones. You screw yourself because smart people know the local elections have much more of an affect on you and your daily life than the presidential election. guys like you support mismatches like Canelo/Kirkland and Kov/Mohammedi fights and wonder why we get so many similar easy fights for stars. Yet you don't watch Fonfara/Cleverly because it came on Friday on Spike, or Huck/Glowacki because it was PBC. Your actions do far more damage than my words. Tuning in to crap fights and mismatches DOES hurt the sport. Just as buying crap ppv's hurts the sport in the sense that if they can continue to put out crap and people are willing to pay for it, then they will continue to do so. I dont support mismatches but you apparently do. I support bouts that I know or have a feeling will be entertaining. That's what boxing is to me. Entertainment. I enjoyed last wknds PBC card (Peterson/Diaz). I didnt tune into the Fonfara/Cleverly fight because I had no idea it was on until after it had aired. Unlike you, I have a life and cant be home everytime there's a PBC card on. This is one of the things that is hurting PBC. Their cards are sporadic. Its hard to build a regular following when you're all over the place.

Only you're disagreeing; literally everyone else recognises boxing is in a sh*t state right now, but you won't acknowledge it because you interpret such criticism as being totally directed towards Haymon & Haymon only. You're the worst kind of bumsniff. everyone agrees with what? I only disagree on what the problems are, not on the state of the sport. we also disagree that there has been a string of bad matchups. This thread isn't about Haymon so why you brought him up seems silly. Watch more of the sport outside the top, you might enjoy it.

We disagree. Just because they are not the specific fights you want doesn't make them bad matchups. There is more to the sport than the top "1%". You can have good fights without big names. This month has seen some very good fights, Postol/Matthysse, Gonzalez/Villoria, Fonfara/cleverly, huck/glowacki. we've also had some good upsets too. Only you're disagreeing; literally everyone else recognises boxing is in a sh*t state right now, but you won't acknowledge it because you interpret such criticism as being totally directed towards Haymon & Haymon only. You're the worst kind of bumsniff.

Yet I never typed ufc??? Guys like you only root for one skin color. Guys like you make assumptions. I watch any type of boxing lowest level to highest level. I attend pro cards and am cards live At least 12 times a yr. I watch boxing over the NFL .. Your the clown Moving on ..... Boxing needs all refs to be on the same page. Clinching is taken to far and Fans hate it. It says in the rule book its not allowed. IMO ring size for certain weight classes as well. No reason for 147 pound fight to be held in custom 26x26 rings. Put those little guys in a 20x20 Your posts don't show that you are a fan. Mostly you post about something racial. But if you support fights and are a real fan then I apologize for lumping you in with non fans. don't put your biases on me. I root for all different races and nationalities of boxers. What fight had a 26x26 ring? I know in vegas rings are 20x20 for all major fights, unless its in a small local casino ballroom that can't hold a ring that size.

Lot of money, fixing and drugs can ruin it, but on the other hand such things and players and loyal fans keep it live with full energies.

Oh, I think the inability of boxing to force a matchup between Floyd and Pacquaio, even though everybody was talking about it, hurt the sport greatly. Five years of waiting? They should have had a trilogy by then. By the time the two met, neither was at his peak -- and Pacquaio was far from dedicated to the sport. Not good for boxing.

"Its always been this way therefore lets just accept it and continue to tune in." Its people like yourself that help encourage what's ruining the sport. The no life having boxing fan that just tunes in to any crap they feed us and act as if we're suppose to be grateful for it. Changing what I wrote is weak. Watching the sport doesn't hurt the sport. No, you do not have to accept anything. But since I watch a lot of boxing on TV, I know that while there have been weak major cards, there have been strong minor cards that I enjoyed despite the fact they got low ratings overall. Its like voting. You can't complain if you don't vote. Worse, if you vote in every presidential election but don't vote in the smaller ones. You screw yourself because smart people know the local elections have much more of an affect on you and your daily life than the presidential election. guys like you support mismatches like Canelo/Kirkland and Kov/Mohammedi fights and wonder why we get so many similar easy fights for stars. Yet you don't watch Fonfara/Cleverly because it came on Friday on Spike, or Huck/Glowacki because it was PBC. Your actions do far more damage than my words.

No that isn't what is wrong with boxing. The a side. b side stuff has been around for ages. B sides just accepted things and fought. My opinion of who is the top p4p fighter surely doesn't hurt the sport you clown. The fans ultimately hurt the sport more than anything else. I see you and others mention UFC. UFC fans seem to watch whenever the sport is on. I'm not in any UFC forums-but I doubt they brag about not watching fights and fighters. There have always been bad scores. Boxing has worked its way through it since more often than not, the judges get it right. Network deals hurt the sport-they used to increase the number of possible opponents. Now it restricts the number of opponents. Promoters/Managers stealing money huts the sport. Potential great fighters see Tyson getting $100 mil stolen, see Bob stealing from Floyd/Manny and then they go into other sports. Lack of an organized body hurts the sport as well. Fights need to get made. but young fans over exaggerating how easy they are made or how often great fights happened doesn't help. If you love the sport, you enjoy it, not just it when the best names are performing. Yet I never typed ufc??? Guys like you only root for one skin color. Guys like you make assumptions. I watch any type of boxing lowest level to highest level. I attend pro cards and am cards live At least 12 times a yr. I watch boxing over the NFL .. Your the clown Moving on ..... Boxing needs all refs to be on the same page. Clinching is taken to far and Fans hate it. It says in the rule book its not allowed. IMO ring size for certain weight classes as well. No reason for 147 pound fight to be held in custom 26x26 rings. Put those little guys in a 20x20

Politics, lack of regulation and structure, and the occasional bad matchup have been around for years and never caused me to get upset with the sport. You yourself got into the sport with these things as well. Didn't turn you away. What is different is the new boxing fan like you and others. Failure to support the sport as a whole and not just those at the top exacerbates the other problems. "Its always been this way therefore lets just accept it and continue to tune in." Its people like yourself that help encourage what's ruining the sport. The no life having boxing fan that just tunes in to any crap they feed us and act as if we're suppose to be grateful for it.

Bad decisions/judging/refs Cherrypick, protective matchmaking Too many belts Too many inactive fighters Stupid rankings that make no sense

Ruining or limiting the greatness and popularity of boxing: -- Lack of single championships per weight class -- Lack of meaningful "champions" -- Lack of "weight classes" in any meaningful sense -- In short, no accountability. Minimal oversight. -- Lack of same day weigh-ins -- Death of the great american heavyweight, or even a few decent HW's -- Rise of MMA -- The increased popularity of many other sports; more choices -- More forms of entertainment than ever before -- PPV, which limits the expansion into a broader audience Keeping it afloat -- Truly unique, appealing personalities: Floyd, Pacquaio, Golovkin -- The boxing community, gyms, culture of helping people, respect -- Great knockouts and skills Truly becoming a niche sport.

I would like to see an organization have a yearly weekend of boxing that they force all their champions to defend their titles. Like have all 16 divisional champions defend their belt on one of those nights and if they can't do it then they get penalized somehow. An event that fans can pin down on their calendars.

It's not the occasional bad matchup, you dumbass; it's been a constant stream of them - it's the normality today. We disagree. Just because they are not the specific fights you want doesn't make them bad matchups. There is more to the sport than the top "1%". You can have good fights without big names. This month has seen some very good fights, Postol/Matthysse, Gonzalez/Villoria, Fonfara/cleverly, huck/glowacki. we've also had some good upsets too.

Politics, lack of regulation and structure, and the occasional bad matchup have been around for years and never caused me to get upset with the sport. You yourself got into the sport with these things as well. Didn't turn you away. What is different is the new boxing fan like you and others. Failure to support the sport as a whole and not just those at the top exacerbates the other problems. It's not the occasional bad matchup, you dumbass; it's been a constant stream of them - it's the normality today.

Ignore The Big Dung; he's a top advocate for the sort of people that have helped create this huge clusterf*ck that is modern professional boxing. Da fans are to blame yo, not the terrible matchups, politics & lack of structure & regulation. Politics, lack of regulation and structure, and the occasional bad matchup have been around for years and never caused me to get upset with the sport. You yourself got into the sport with these things as well. Didn't turn you away. What is different is the new boxing fan like you and others. Failure to support the sport as a whole and not just those at the top exacerbates the other problems.