We all know catch weights are used to gain or take away a weight advantage. Although I do not agree with them, I guess I am fine with a catch weight only 2 or so pounds away from the legitimate weight. Not 5+.
What do you guys think, should they be completely banned? Do they help make fights or discourage them?
We all know catch weights are used to gain or take away a weight advantage. Although I do not agree with them, I guess I am fine with a catch weight only 2 or so pounds away from the legitimate weight. Not 5+.
What do you guys think, should they be completely banned? Do they help make fights or discourage them?
Not for title fights Pacquaios 150 and Floyds 152 to weaken the competition was a joke
It was a WW fight and Maweather made the WW limit. That's just fact. Dunce.
it was a welter weight fight FACT
Floyd coming in @146 is not a welter weight limit FACT
147lbs is the welter weight limit FACt
Floyd came in one pound short of the welter weight limit FACT
Dunce Dunce Dunce
As people have said, if it's genuinely between two guys who are in different weight classes then fair enough.
But the likes of Canelo and Cotto are a joke. As far as i'm concerned 155-160 is MW. If you're fighting consistently at 155 or 156 or something then you are a middleweight so no excuses, fight Middleweights or give up the belt and go back to 154.
A guy like Canelo clearly can't make 154 comfortable enough anymore which is why he chooses to fight the weight he does. So in that sense he needs to accept he's a middleweight fighter and fight 'em or kill himself to make 154.
Technically fighting at MW (155) consistently and then saying you won't fight a guy who's 160 is making a mockery of the weight classes and sport. Like if Canelo doesn't wanna fight Golovkin that's fine, just admit it for what it is or go down to 154 and stay there and nobody will complain. Should he wins a MW belt, i hope he vacates if he's not willing to defend it honourably at the MW limit.
I'm not just pointing the finger at Canelo and Cotto here, it's my feeling right across the sport but these two are the worst offenders right now for failing to accept they're middleweights even though they fight within that weight class all the time now and fighting for the damn MW belt.
WW rules are 147 limit, having a limit of 144 isn't WW. If you want to weigh 144 that's fine by WW rules, having a limit for your opponent of 144 isn't. Sorry but you're a dunce.
Floyd and Marquez was a catchweight fight you dunce there was a contract agreed upon by both parties.
and Floyd coming in @146 did not come at Welter weight limit.
Welterweight limit is 147 you dunce, Floyd came in one pound short of the limit
Dunce Dunce Dunce
Yes you're a dunce. Official WW limit is 147, Mayweather weighed in at 146, he followed the official rules. You should know this by now. :dunce:
and Marquez coming at 144lbs was not follwing the official rules?
it was a welter weight fight you dunce why would they both agreed for a 144 if it's not? would you think it is smart to have a catchweight agreementt of 148 for a welter weight fight you dunce.why would you call it a catchweight agreement if one can come at any weight he wants as long as it is in the division limit?
dunce dunce dunce
When its between two fighters in separate weight classes,it is acceptable. When its two fighters in the same weight class,and fighter A is trying to bring down fighter B five lbs,its some b*tch sh*t.
pretty much this, /thread
Certainly not in mandated title fights. The champ should not be able to demand the mandatory challenger for his belt come in miles under the limit for the division. That's just messed up.
That would be whatever unofficial name you want to give it, Mayweather chose to stick with the official WW rules though.
Floyd came in @ 146lbs for an agreed 144lbs catchweight figh both of them Floyd and Marquez has a signature on it.
Isaac - Floyd choose to stick with the official welter weight rules
Marquez came in at an agreed catchweigh of 144 lbs.
Isaac . Marquez choose to stick with the unofficial WW rules.
if 146 is an official welterweight rules
where do 147, 145, 144, 143, and 142lbs falls, an unofficial welterweight rules?
hmmmm...
Dunce you say.
If they aren't following official division rules and are creating there own rules, they're creating custom divisions. :dunce:
what custom division was created when Floyd vs Marquez fought at a catchweight limit of 144?
dunce you say
Yes stick to the official divisions and it's limits, that's what they're there for. They're pointless when fighters just make custom weights to suit them.
read the thread title and the OP's first comment.
nothing in there says anything about catchweight creating customs division.
I don't agree with catchweights so i have no problem with Mayweather coming in at 146. Mayweather-Canelo would have been the fight to use. :dunce:
ok i got it
catchweigh agreement 144 Floyd vs Marquez
Floyd 146 no problem
Floyd Canelo catch weight - bullshyt.
where did the OP mentioned catchweight creating a custom division?
Floyd fan and his logic
Half way catchweights meeting in the middle to make a mega fight yes.....
Not when one guy is saying ill gain 1 pound over my division and you gotta meet me there making a b side fighter come down to 1 pound over the other guys divsion.
I have a bigger issue with anyone having a rehydration issue. If you make weight
Balloon up to whatever you want ,you made the contracted weight.
These sissy fighters wanting to puck your gloves make a catchweight and rehydration clause and they take iv's to mask peds ..
Fucc outta here
There should be fewer weight divisions, not more. Catchweight is basically just saying infinity weight divisions. It's terrible and turns boxing into a contest over who is the best at dying in a sauna.
Cw's are bull****. Using the official weight divisions to defend them is bull****. You either stick to the official weights or don't, don't use them to defend making custom divisions. :lol1:
like Foyd vs Marquez kind of Bullshyt?
catchweight agreement @ 144lbs.
Floyd coming in @ 146
what say you Floyd fans
Yeah, I don't like them but fighters always look for advantages everywhere, if we ban catchweights you might start getting A sides demanding fighters move down a full weight class instead of meeting halfway.
Title fights don't even mean anything anymore beyond your first title fight or a unification.
Never, ever, for title fights.
If it's two guys in different divisions, that's fine.
If it's two guys in different divisions in a title fight... I'm still not okay with that.