Does GGG Belong In The Higher Weight Classes?

165 in the amateurs (same day weigh in) is pretty much the same as 147-154 in the pros......... Funny how near every notable 165lb amateur over the last decade has ended up fighting at 168lbs or higher. Please point to a any top 165lb amateur who ended going down to 160, or lower, when they turned pro.

The main reason guys leave weight classes is due to them draining themselves to make it Golovkin doesn't appear to be doing that there are many jrMiddles that weigh what he weighs so he's fine at MW.

IMO his best weight is where is at right now, if he moves up he will not be the same GGG it happens all the time

For today boxing standarts he is a small mw. Hell, even super lightweights like Alvarado and Garcia were gaining like 20 lbs after weighin...

Once Canelo or Cotto give him the opportunity to take their beatings and let him unify the division he'll move up to 168 and clean it out.

GGG is usually around 165-168 on fight night. 160 is where he belongs. At middleweight, he is powerful and a beast. At 168, he would look small. At 175, he wouldn't be nearly as effective. GGG should stay right where he is. I must have missed when scoring criteria was based upon aesthetics.

But he was willing to move up for bigger money fights like Froch and Chavez. Ward is less money than those two but way more than anyone he's been facing at middleweight over the last god knows how many years. It's done now though, he's avoided the Ward fight and he now has to go for Cotto/Canelo. So yeah....maybe 2017 for Ward like his team said. he was willing to move up at that time because the unifications at 160 were not available to him. And at that time, Ward was either injured, in court, or needing tuneups (according to Roc COO David Iskowitz). Fortunes change, and now the unifications at 160 ARE available to GGG, so he has no need to look at 168 at this time. Tough break for Ward. But he can go fight a dummy on someones undercard, he'll be ok.......

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking. You are mixing past and future tense there. "GGG hasn't fought a single fight" - past tense - "that would generate more money than a fight with Ward" - future tense. None of Golovkin's fights previous to him turning down Ward's offer generated as much money as a fight with Ward would generate now, because of GGG's increased popularity. But so what? His last fight will probably generate more, when the PPV income is added to the purse, and he will certainly earn massively more for fighting Cotto or Canelo than he would get for Ward.

Obviously not but the point is that by staying in the division, you will get that big money fight (that would be bigger than a 168 fight with Ward). But he was willing to move up for bigger money fights like Froch and Chavez. Ward is less money than those two but way more than anyone he's been facing at middleweight over the last god knows how many years. It's done now though, he's avoided the Ward fight and he now has to go for Cotto/Canelo. So yeah....maybe 2017 for Ward like his team said.

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking. Obviously not but the point is that by staying in the division, you will get that big money fight (that would be bigger than a 168 fight with Ward).

the Cotto-Canelo winner would likely pay 2-3 times (or more) of what a Ward fight might generate. GGG isnt going anywhere until he gets that fight or the winner vacates...... Read my post again and give it another go.

Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking. the Cotto-Canelo winner would likely pay 2-3 times (or more) of what a Ward fight might generate. GGG isnt going anywhere until he gets that fight or the winner vacates......

Some do, some don't. If they do move up it's always because of weight issues or money - they can get better paydays by moving up than by staying put. No fighter ever turned away from big money fights in his own division and moved up to fight tougher, heavier opponents, for less money, just because he wanted to prove his courage or thought he needed a better "resume" GGG has no problem making 160 and and that's where the big fights and the money is for him. Expecting him to move up now, or criticising him for not doing it, just isn't reasonable. Golovkin hasn't fought a single fight at 160 that would generate more money than a fight against Andre Ward would. That's where the fallacy comes into your thinking.

he is just fine where he is, he can move up after 2 more fights, after he beats the Jacobs quillen winner he may move up

Golovkin fought his last three years as an amateur at 165lbs, and has now spent about a decade at 160 as a professional. Only other fighter who'd done that is Marvin Hagler (Hagler had nowhere near the extensive amateur career) 165 in the amateurs (same day weigh in) is pretty much the same as 147-154 in the pros.........

Like most I have been very impressed with GGG and his dominance of the Middleweight division. He looks unbeatable. The question I have been deliberating on is, Is he too big for the average Middleweight? Does he belong at 168 or 175? I wonder if he will have as much punch resistance in the higher weights and will his punches have as much affect on Ward, Kovalev and Degale etc. Opinions please :) Golovkin fought his last three years as an amateur at 165lbs, and has now spent about a decade at 160 as a professional. Only other fighter who'd done that is Marvin Hagler (Hagler had nowhere near the extensive amateur career)

Would like to see him go at it at 168 lbs.

He makes 160 easily...but hey others on here wanted others fighters to move up even though they had already moved up several divisions

Well it's something he said he'd do, then he said he wouldn't, then he'd do it for certain fighters, then he'd only do it at catchweights for other fighters. Or that he'd only move up if it's for a PPV fight. There's nothing really concrete that comes out of that camp. I was referring more to the fan excuses of him being "too small". Many fighters have been too small for certain weight classes but have moved up. The most feared fighter seems to have the most scared fanbase. What do you mean? He still said he'd do it, just not after he unifies the divisions. A guy isn't going to stick to 1 plan for the rest of his career, of course it's going to change based on money/opportunity.

he makes 159 with his pants and shoes on. He'll move up when there is nothing left at 160.......