No fighter needs 3 tune ups. Honestly no fighter need tune ups at all. It's a way promoters and certain fighters milk the system and cheat the fans.
How many tune ups did Leonard need before fighting Hagler.
How many did Manny need before facing Cotto?
If you need 3 tune ups you better be fighting Jesus at the end of them all.
Tune ups are a figure of speech , guys dont fight the very top every fight so all the other fights are tune ups for the top guys .
Like lots have been saying GGG has had 34 tune ups thus far to fight Ward and he still not ready , theory applies to all fighters .
So wheres the part where he mentioned Kovalev? Also Ward had been inactive the last 2 years so he hasnt been able to acclimate to 175 yet. So 2 year lay off and a couple tune up fights before you fight the biggest threat in boxing outside of ggg. Not bad
On the other hand ggg fights 3-4 times a year and his team had been specifically mentioning Ward.
Yep. In boxing, long vacationers are never blamed for being inactive. They're treated like they were in some kind of injury or something. It always works for them when coming up with excuses.
You're not blaming GGG for Ward's inactivity, do you?
Here u go,
ward said anyone from 168-175 3 years ago, then when kova called him out he backed out like a biitch. also keep in mind ward fought at 178 in Olympics. AND comes in 185 at fight night in the Pros.Ward already fought Smith at LHw, so why is he ducking Kovalev?
Its the 15th paragraph, ward said anyone from 168-175
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7916213/chad-dawson-andre-ward-bout-works
Here are three occasions where Kovalev/team called ward out,
http://www.boxingscene.com/kovalevs-trainer-andre-ward-needs-meet-us-175--84151
http://thaboxingvoice.com/duva-says-no-catchweight-for-ward-kovalev-legal-action-may-be-taken-against-steveson-and-promoter/24123?var=no
Its the 6th question
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/john-david-jackson-on-andre-ward-adonis-stevenson-and-artur-beterbiev-and-the-sergey-kovalev-gennady-golovkin-spar/
So WARDOS, you guys remember GGG's 154-168 but chose to forget andreA COward's 168-175 + He said he will be HW champ by age 32
And now Ward just had 1 of his 3 tune-ups at LHW but still wont mention Kova.
So wheres the part where he mentioned Kovalev? Also Ward had been inactive the last 2 years so he hasnt been able to acclimate to 175 yet. So 2 year lay off and a couple tune up fights before you fight the biggest threat in boxing outside of ggg. Not bad
On the other hand ggg fights 3-4 times a year and his team had been specifically mentioning Ward.
Ward just had a tune up at 175. I can understand 1 more. I just dont understamd wasting all these tv slots for tune ups. Hopefully they are co features
He's taking Roc Nation for a bunch of fools, one black man stealing from a rich black man is this what brothers do to one another? lol.
right, difference is GGG said hed fight ANYONE at 168 and never mentioned tune ups, ward is saying he will move up to fight the top guy but wants tune ups, its not like he said hed fight ANYONE and then changed his tune when called out on it. im a fan of all of them either way it goes tho
This is 100 percent true^^^
"A win over Ward would do nothing for him at 160."
I don't know what a win over Ward would do for GGG at 160, but in the sport of boxing it would make him the #1 p4p fighter. (First I want to see if the winner of Cotto Canelo will be willing fight him though and I'll bet he is thinking the same.)
GGG wouldn't need tune ups at 168 because he was willing to fight Froch or JCC jr there.
right, difference is GGG said hed fight ANYONE at 168 and never mentioned tune ups, ward is saying he will move up to fight the top guy but wants tune ups, its not like he said hed fight ANYONE and then changed his tune when called out on it. im a fan of all of them either way it goes tho
He is a small middleweight at an age when he stopped growing years ago. He is not moving to 168 and he is not spotting Ward 8 pounds to fight him at 168. The two men fight at different weights and Ward wants GGG to come to his perfect weight of 168. GGG will only split the difference and fight Ward at 164 which is what is usually done when two fighters are in different weight classes. So Ward won't go to 164 and GGG won't go to 168. They can't agree on a weight to fight at so the fight won't ever happen. GGG is no more a coward for not going to 168 than Ward is a coward for not going to 164. The fact that GGG was willing to fight Chavez and Froch at 168 is irrelevant because Ward is twice as good as them and everybody knows it. Meanwhile Ward has lots of good 168 pounders he can fight and GGG is trying to unify 160. Fans need to quit acting like GGG is the only fight for Ward and it must happen. It will never happen and there are lots of good fights for Ward at 168 or 175 if he can't make 168 comfortably. There is no real reason for GGG to fight Ward. Ward is not a big money fight and GGG has no desire to move to 168 since he is a small middleweight. GGG has always made it clear his desire is to unify and rule the middleweights. A win over Ward would do nothing for him at 160.
An excellent, completely logical post. Unfortunately when it comes to Ward fans, this would be the movie equivalent... your post and Golovkin fans are represented by Gamora, the lovely green lady. Her final line says it all. Drax would be the typical Ward fan.
How would it be viewed if he wanted a year vs tune ups at 168?
then he would have clarified that he will fight anyone from 160-168 WITH TUNE UPS FIRST at 168. and I would see no problem with it but 3 is a bit much now that I think of it. 2 is fine
Well let's not talk about tune ups at 168, he is fighting the great elite fighter David Lemiuex at 160. Ward allegedly said 3 tune ups and Kovalev in 2016. Duva says talks have been positive. If GGG said this for Ward, i'd be okay with it. But next is probably BJ Saunders or Andy Lee, or a JMW coming up like Cotto or Canelo.
... Golovkin had the Cotto/Canelo winner mandated to fight him next... Then came Oscar with the Lemieux "lure"... And, surprise, then came Ward who called Golovkin immediately, because he wanted so...
... Now Ward is asking HBO for an indefinite number of tune ups in order to fight God-knows-who after he suffers one of his famous injuries.
if Ward was throwing Kovalevs name around for the past 3 years and Kova called him on it and Ward turned around and said I need 3 tune up fights. Then there would be a problem.
He is a small middleweight at an age when he stopped growing years ago. He is not moving to 168 and he is not spotting Ward 8 pounds to fight him at 168. The two men fight at different weights and Ward wants GGG to come to his perfect weight of 168. GGG will only split the difference and fight Ward at 164 which is what is usually done when two fighters are in different weight classes. So Ward won't go to 164 and GGG won't go to 168. They can't agree on a weight to fight at so the fight won't ever happen. GGG is no more a coward for not going to 168 than Ward is a coward for not going to 164. The fact that GGG was willing to fight Chavez and Froch at 168 is irrelevant because Ward is twice as good as them and everybody knows it. Meanwhile Ward has lots of good 168 pounders he can fight and GGG is trying to unify 160. Fans need to quit acting like GGG is the only fight for Ward and it must happen. It will never happen and there are lots of good fights for Ward at 168 or 175 if he can't make 168 comfortably. There is no real reason for GGG to fight Ward. Ward is not a big money fight and GGG has no desire to move to 168 since he is a small middleweight. GGG has always made it clear his desire is to unify and rule the middleweights. A win over Ward would do nothing for him at 160.
who said they would not be top 10 contenders? no opponent has even been mentioned
Because top 10 contenders are not considered to be tune up fights. If you are specifying that they will be 'TUNE UP' fights, that indicates they are not ranked opponents. And no fighter deserves top dollar to have glorified sparring sessions in the ring.