If you were one of the guys who though Lucas was World Class level...

Maidana only beat Broner. That's it. You consider Maidana world class because of this. Why should I take you seriously? Still no response to this gaping whole in your logic.

I've always said he was overrated..... Shot to **** judah beat him....idiots will try to claim robbery though.

you didn't see the alexander fight, did you? just be honest, man. you can take baby steps forward and start to grow. matthysse knocked alexander down, and absolutely walked away with the majority of the rounds. it was a 10 round fight. here is the fight. lets see your scorecard, if you've got the stones to tell us how you scored the rounds. as for counting the judah fight as a matthysse win, i don't think that's fair. he had trouble finding judah early, and did a lot of work to his chest and arms because he didn't have the foot speed or trap setting abilities to get to his head. that fight was close. alexander - matthyusse was a robbery. straight up robbery. I saw the fight live buddy... I can probably pull up some of my posts on here while it was happening or shortly after. I had Mathysse up a point... The KD.... Hometown guy wins a close fight to and unknowns South American fighter isn't a robbery. Unless of course your criteria for what constitutes a robbery is the same as what constitutes being labeled World Class... If you were in charge of voting people into the HOF you couldn't find a "Hall" big enough...

Really??? Because boxrec had him actually losing to Judah and Alexander. Also do we need to go over Ruslan's resume to see who else beat him? Again he only beat Peterson... That's it. Maidana only beat Broner. That's it. You consider Maidana world class because of this. Why should I take you seriously?

you didn't see the alexander fight, did you? just be honest, man. you can take baby steps forward and start to grow. matthysse knocked alexander down, and absolutely walked away with the majority of the rounds. it was a 10 round fight. here is the fight. lets see your scorecard, if you've got the stones to tell us how you scored the rounds. as for counting the judah fight as a matthysse win, i don't think that's fair. he had trouble finding judah early, and did a lot of work to his chest and arms because he didn't have the foot speed or trap setting abilities to get to his head. that fight was close. alexander - matthyusse was a robbery. straight up robbery. Truth. I had Matthysse 6-4 +1 KD vs Devon. I could see 5-5 but no way Devon win 6 rounds Judah I had 114-113 for Judah.

Really??? Because boxrec had him actually losing to Judah and Alexander. Also do we need to go over Ruslan's resume to see who else beat him? Again he only beat Peterson... That's it. you didn't see the alexander fight, did you? just be honest, man. you can take baby steps forward and start to grow. matthysse knocked alexander down, and absolutely walked away with the majority of the rounds. it was a 10 round fight. here is the fight. lets see your scorecard, if you've got the stones to tell us how you scored the rounds. as for counting the judah fight as a matthysse win, i don't think that's fair. he had trouble finding judah early, and did a lot of work to his chest and arms because he didn't have the foot speed or trap setting abilities to get to his head. that fight was close. alexander - matthyusse was a robbery. straight up robbery.

did you watch the alexander fight? also, you should note that you claimed that he hadn't beaten a top 140 lber, which was wrong. youc an't just pick and choose who you want to consider world class :lol1: a fighter who is #1 contender off of a sensational knockout of a top 3 opponent who hwas coming off of a good win within the last year is world class. why do people on NSB dig their heels in when they're so blatantly wrong? generally, it's race :lol1: but i don't knwo what color this mong is I never said he didn't beat a top 140lb fighter... I said he never beat a champion when the belt was on the line and I was right because last I checked he hasn't won jack sh1t but the NSB hypejob of the decade award. Yea I saw the Alexander fight ... I saw a guy who recently felt he got "robbed" against Judah (he didn't) keep another fight close,fighting in his opponents backyard and seemingly win by 1 point and guess what it didn't go his way..... Happens all the time. Difference is, everybody who fought and BEAT Alexander beat him CLEARLY and went on to be WORLD CLASS ... Lucas got "robbed" and went on to do nothing anyway so it doesn't really make a difference

but he punches hard doe!!!!!!!!!

Matthysse beat Peterson, Alexander, Judah, Ruslan. Why are you ignoring that? He's beaten better fighters than Broner already. Really??? Because boxrec had him actually losing to Judah and Alexander. Also do we need to go over Ruslan's resume to see who else beat him? Again he only beat Peterson... That's it.

You've been trying all day. Trying to bring people down to Broner's level with your lame ass comparisons. You do this sh1t a lot. It's transparent. What has Broner done to show he's better than Matthysse? You just can't win with some people, impossible for them to see the error of their ways. P.S Sanchez's second goal was better imo

dude, please go away. No one is trying to get Broner over. I told all of you Matts was going to lose to Postol the day the fight was announced. I had danny over Matts to. Matts is just a power guy IMO. He gets credit for wins but he just isn't much IMO. I have been proven correct yet again with respect to him. Broner is a lazy scrub. IMO he is better than Matts. I do not like Broner, I do not celebrate him. This is about Matthysse, nothing more, nothing less. You've been trying all day. Trying to bring people down to Broner's level with your lame ass comparisons. You do this sh1t a lot. It's transparent. What has Broner done to show he's better than Matthysse?

Garcia beat a world class fighter in Khan and Judah (who beat Mathysse) Maidana in Broner Bradley over Pacquiao and Alexander (who beat Mathysse) And Lucas has got that Mike Dallas Jr. win to hand his hat on. Matthysse beat Peterson, Alexander, Judah, Ruslan. Why are you ignoring that? I doubt he beats Broner ... And that's saying a lot about him. He's beaten better fighters than Broner already.

You just named Pacquiao for Bradley. You named Khan for Garcia but don't count the guy who beat Khan before Garcia. You don't count Ruslan, either. :lol1: That's it, I'm done. This is a madhouse thread. Why am I supposed to be counting Ruslan? You honestly mean to tell me that Khan losing to Peterson erases everything else Khan has accomplished and because Mathysse beat Peterson and Khan lost to Peterson they are somehow on the same level? I've got news for you... They aren't... Doesn't matter how you slice it or dice it. Mathysse is not on the level of a Garcia,Khan,Bradley,or Maidana... And now Postol... He just isn't... What's "crazy" is that you still fail to see that. Who else does Mathysse have to get embarrassed by before it's clear to you?

Hindsight is 20/20 and the haters on this site all have hindsight 20/20. You will not find a single person on this site who is willing to admit that, a few years ago, they said that Matthysse would KO Danny Garcia and them move up to welterweight and KO Mayweather. You will not find a single person who will admit that they claimed that both Garcia and Mayweather were afraid to fight Matthysse. Matthysse's fans, just like Pacquaio's, are decreasing by the day on this site. I personally created several threads a few years back before he fought Garcia calling Lucas out for exactly what he is... A dimensional fighter who relies solely on his power and will never beat someone who has heart,solid fundamentals and decent power. I was correct then and I'm still correct

Garcia beat a world class fighter in Khan and Judah (who beat Mathysse) Maidana in Broner Bradley over Pacquiao and Alexander (who beat Mathysse) And Lucas has got that Mike Dallas Jr. win to hand his hat on. You just named Pacquiao for Bradley. You named Khan for Garcia but don't count the guy who beat Khan before Garcia. You don't count Ruslan, either. :lol1: That's it, I'm done. This is a madhouse thread.

That's all he's done!... That's it... You know how many times that's happened in the history of the sport? A champion gets knocked out by a guy with good power and not much else... Peterson is the only guy he's ever BEAT worth mentioning. He came up short against everyone else did you watch the alexander fight? also, you should note that you claimed that he hadn't beaten a top 140 lber, which was wrong. youc an't just pick and choose who you want to consider world class :lol1: a fighter who is #1 contender off of a sensational knockout of a top 3 opponent who hwas coming off of a good win within the last year is world class. why do people on NSB dig their heels in when they're so blatantly wrong? generally, it's race :lol1: but i don't knwo what color this mong is

I look at it like this. Take the top 5 guys at 140 and the top 5 at 147. Does he beat any ... ANY ... Of those guys if a belt was on the line? If the answer is no... Or "probably not". Then how can he be "Word Class" at the same time? Surely there's some sort of cut off when defining a "World Class" boxer... Everyone can't make the cut and I think Lucas falls short of that. Name a fighter who could lose as many times as he has in big spots,regardless of who YOU felt SHOULD HAVE won, and still be called "World Class" (one of the best in the world)? Name one.... matthysse knocked peterson out when he was a top 3 jr WW coming off of a win over amir khan. he beat the hell out of him. that fight earned him the #1 contender spot to the lineage danny established when he knocked khan out. did you watch boxing in '10, 11, 12? be honest. becuse the answer to your question isn't a matter of opinion. it's a fact of which you'd be aware if you watched or knew boxing in those years.

He knocked out one of the 3 best 140 pounders in 3 rounds. :lol1: Are you absolutely insane or just so hell bent on hating Lucas Matthysse that you don't care how stupid you sound? That's all he's done!... That's it... You know how many times that's happened in the history of the sport? A champion gets knocked out by a guy with good power and not much else... Peterson is the only guy he's ever BEAT worth mentioning. He came up short against everyone else

I doubt he beats Broner ... And that's saying a lot about him. I doubted it before he lost to Postol but now that he lost, I see NSB thinks Lucas really beats Broner and Postol has become a "special" fighter. NSB.....:Flush:

I don't respect your opinion about the sport AT ALL! The fact that you couldn't see how flawed he was as a fighter tells me all I need to know in regards to your knowledge of the sport. How many times had he let the belt "slip away" ... Not even... Because he was usually losing the whole way in his championship fights... Then the guy quits against a guy who has about half the experience he does in these type fights! I knew he would lose so it bet against him but to take a knee and not get back up when's you supposedly have "fight ending power" and rabid fans that have stood behind you (not for long) for years ... And he quits? Lol.... GATEKEEPER!!! Hindsight is 20/20 and the haters on this site all have hindsight 20/20. You will not find a single person on this site who is willing to admit that, a few years ago, they said that Matthysse would KO Danny Garcia and them move up to welterweight and KO Mayweather. You will not find a single person who will admit that they claimed that both Garcia and Mayweather were afraid to fight Matthysse. Matthysse's fans, just like Pacquaio's, are decreasing by the day on this site.