It's actually not that much better than Wilder's. You can bring up top 10 fighters all you want, but it doesn't mean anything when that fighter is only in the top 10 because he fought bums.
Povetkin's best wins:
Takam, Chagaev, Chambers
Takam & Stiverne are by far the best wins each man has on their resume and are pretty equal level of fighters. Perez doesn't count as he didn't even train, same result would occur with Wilder. After that is a big fall off in quality.
Chagaev-Has close wins over Valuev, Oquendo, Ruiz, and Vyrchys. An elite fighter would not struggle so mightily with all these guys. Valuev, the best win out of all 3, has a robbery over Holyfield, and could barely beat Ruiz, he too is an extremely overrated fighter.
Chambers-A close win over Peter & Brock, KO'd by Wlad, a loss to Adamek, and a loss at cruiser. What has he proven against quality competition other than he loses?
Povetkin also struggled badly with former protected cruiserweight champion Marco Huck. He also got badly beaten by Wlad, even Jennings put up a much better fight.
Who else is left on Povetkin's resume, Boswell, Charr, Estrada, Donald, Byrd, Wawryzk, Rahman? Wilder would run through all of these guys.
It's Stiverne & Takam, then everyone else. Povetkin didn't exactly dominate Takam either like Wilder did Stiverne. He got buckled a couple of times and the fight was relatively close until the KO.
Povetkin has been fighting solid opposition all the way through his career. One of the only heavyweights other than Wlad who has done that.
Larry Donald, Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers etc all came within 10-15 fights. Add the likes of Chagaev, Huck, Klitschko, Takam & Perez to the mix and I'm starting to wonder which fighter other than Klitschko who has a better resume in the HW division.
And even former champions/contenders like Rahman, Charr & Wach and I'm certain he has the 2nd best resume in the division.
Sanders declined a rematch with Wlad as did purity and Brewster decined the immediate rematch because he knew he lucked out in a fight he was getting battered in as the other poster stated you basically type hyper bole stuff .The only thing you said that was correct was Fury being in best shape but then while ALL Wlads opposition is on decline ,Wlad at 40 isnt and Fury EXPOSED him?:dead1:
P.s Byrd under king ran from Wlad for years!
Nope, Wlad ducked an immediate rematch with Sanders, Brewster and Purrity.
Sanders himself said he never knew why Wlad didn't want a rematch, Wlad was content with Vitali avenging both those losses.
Wlad wasn't even planning to fight Brewster either, Wlad was looking for a fight with Valuev but he'd just lost to Chagaev so they went after Brewster 3 years later. 3 years to prepare for a journeyman level fighter fresh off a loss, eye surgery and he was in terrible shape.
Fury exposed Wlad's holding, he showed just how amateurish Wlad truly is. Wlad is a 1 dimensional boxer that completely relies on his holding, we saw what he looked like pre-holding getting KTFO by Sanders/Brewster, we saw what he looks like when that holding advantage is taken away against a physically superior fighter.
That's absolutely not how meldonium works, hence why there isn't anything definitive on it right now and it's banning has been controversial. Meldonium improves blood flow. That's it. You won't fight 12 rounds from taking meldonium if you couldn't before, you won't "power" through workouts you would otherwise struggle with and it doesn't transform you at all.
But hey, feel free to use as much as hyperbole and bullsh*t as you like.
Except it is how it works, this drug was originally created to promote growth in livestock. It is being abused by thousands of elite european athletes for a reason.
Meldonium replenishes your oxygen supply and increases your circulation to all tissues. You can workout longer and harder because your muscles are constantly receiving oxygen.
Increased circulation of blood also aids in the healing of microtears created by workouts as your blood carries vital nutrients to heal your muscles. This drug gives you a shyt load of stamina.
Do you know why so many boxers train at a high altitude before their fight? To temporarily load their blood with high concentrations of oxygen rich blood cells for a few weeks which heavily boosts their stamina while fighting.
Same principal here except you just pop a pill and don't have to train in those high altitudes, instead it makes training significantly easier.
Weight lifters also take huge gulps of breath before they lift, pumps oxygen into their blood, gives them the stamina to finish their set. Divers also load their blood with oxygen by taking big or rapid breaths, it allows them to stay under water much longer, again same principal.
Meldonium has multiple benefits both physical and mental. Meldonium gives you the stamina to power through your workouts, you can train longer and harder. Increased blood flow can also help your body recover faster from workouts, it also can give you a mental focus.
Povetkin not only used it to help transform his body in preparation during his training camps, he used it while fighting. This drug played a big role in his ability to keep up his intensity for all 12 rounds when it's pumping oxygen rich blood into his heart.
That's absolutely not how meldonium works, hence why there isn't anything definitive on it right now and it's banning has been controversial. Meldonium improves blood flow. That's it. You won't fight 12 rounds from taking meldonium if you couldn't before, you won't "power" through workouts you would otherwise struggle with and it doesn't transform you at all.
But hey, feel free to use as much as hyperbole and bullsh*t as you like.
Fury has never even fought anyone better than Byrd beyond Wlad so im just going to leave it at that even though Byrds defense is much better than Furys and yoyu used Klitchko 2000 when we all saw what Wlad did to him after making minor adjustments in the second fight which you also ignore that hes always fought better in rematches ,its beating a dead horse here that theres so many things wrong with your post ,we'll just see come july 9th.
Wlad fought Byrd 6 years later when he was on the decline, Fury has beaten Chisora and Cunningham who are better than Byrd. Fury also showed up in the best shape of his life against Wlad, normally he never trains that hard.
Wlad fights better in his rematches because he waits until they decline, this dude is a fraud and Fury exposed him. Wlad never rematched Purrity or Sanders; Wlad waited 3 years to rematch Brewster fresh off a UD loss too.
:lol1: That's not how meldonium works.
Meldonium has multiple benefits both physical and mental. Meldonium gives you the stamina to power through your workouts, you can train longer and harder. Increased blood flow can also help your body recover faster from workouts, it also can give you a mental focus.
Povetkin not only used it to help transform his body in preparation during his training camps, he used it while fighting. This drug played a big role in his ability to keep up his intensity for all 12 rounds when it's pumping oxygen rich blood into his heart.
He tested positive after he'd tested clean which means he'd taken some post ban. He was using them to cheat before though, Povetkin made a huge physical transformation in his mid 30's, I'd wondered how he did it, this is how.
:lol1: That's not how meldonium works.
Byrd and chambers were very impressive wins considering povetkin was still a prospect at the time and only had a dozen fights...
Chagev was a legit top 3 guy at the time..
Yes he struggled with huck, but that stuff happens during a career
Would have liked to seen Povetkin fight Haye a few years ago..
Outside of wlad, Povetkin has just as good of resume as any other heavy out there
He never cheated prior to this fight because the stuff he was taking was legal. Meldonium was banned in January 2016.
He tested positive after he'd tested clean which means he'd taken some post ban. He was using them to cheat before though, Povetkin made a huge physical transformation in his mid 30's, I'd wondered how he did it, this is how.
You cannot fight someone who runs like a scared kid like Haye did,if you think wlad had trouble with moving targets try telling that to chris byrd or eddie Chambers. One of Wlads best attribute is actually his footwork and ability to cut off the ring when he uses it,Steward also rated it as Wlads best quality and often over looked.He pressed fury the entire fight ,he just didn't throw punches when the chance was there,we will see in the rematch whats what at age 40. A moving target with a 85 inch reach may or may not be to much,my prediction is he k.os Fury before round 9.
Wilder would have the edge over povetkin because of the size/speed not because hes the better overall boxer.
Wlad landed 134 out of 509 punches against Haye, 105 were jabs. He could not land his power shots on Haye and was content with staying at range and boxing/holding. His fight with Fury is another example, absolutely refused to take any chances.
Chambers went 11 with Wlad before getting caught, Byrd went 12 with Wlad in 2000. Steward taught Wlad to hold which neutralizes any and all inside fighting, pre-holding he was an aggressive KO puncher with no defense getting KO'd by Sanders, Brewster, etc.
He 1st employed his holding tactics against Peter, knocked down 3x but his holding saved his ass from getting knocked out. Eventually he mastered it.
You act like Povetkin isn't some 1 dimensional fighter, he got demolished against Wlad, rocked and struggled against Huck/Takam/Chagaev.
Well this could go for ALL the top guys barring Fury b/c his recent win but take away Wlad and Furys resume is very weak for a guy who was pro for 7 years.As stated before Wlad is the only real one with a solid resume,all the other guys from Haye to Wilder are all the same really.If they all fought eachother win or lose we would see whats what but no one wants to do that so...you end up with matches like povetkin vs Wach and Wilder vs Stiverne. Joshua is exemp because he only has 16 fights but his resume is better than those guys anyway considering hes been the least experienced,and hes takeing on undefeated guys any which way you look at it.
Styles make fights, Wilder's size and Povetkin's lack of it give Wilder a huge advantage.
Same goes for Wlad-Fury, Wlad has always struggled landing against mobile fighters such as Ibragimov and Haye. He mostly lands that right hand on stationary targets, guys with little to not head movement which is what his resume is filled with.
Wlad also holds to neutralize any and all inside fighting, this works best against smaller or slow fighters. He's a very basic fighter, he has no inside fighting ability which is why he threw like 3 body shots the whole fight lol.
Fury's mobility, height, and length neutralized Wlad's ability to keep distance, and that's where the fight was won. Wlad is nothing without his size and holding.