Both guys like to use their size to their advantage, but Tyson does have 2" of height and reach on Wilder.
I think Deontay answered some questions against Duhaupas, even if it wasn't the most competitive fight.
Since this is a fairly realistic match-up for 2016, who takes it?
Wilder or Fury?
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Fury would box his ears off. If that French pudding could do that to Wilders eyes, imagine what the switch hitting, highly accurate Fury will do. Wilder will be blind after round 6.
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I see where all this BS fits your agenda but there's a ton of holes in your argument.
First, about half the time, fights are determined by who has the bigger punch and/or the best chin.
Second, in no way does Fury have more boxing talent that Wilder. Wilder is the superior athlete any way you want to look at it.
Third, somehow you think Fury has a high boxing IQ? Based on what?
If Wilder had so much talent and athleticism why'd he spend five years on the bum circuit before stepping up to anything remotely resembling world level? Why didn't he just learn on the job the way Jennings and Fury himself have done? Why'd he need all this "development time" and "experience building" against total patsies whilst himself continuing to look like a bow-legged baby giraffe on the lash?
Wilder isn't a natural talent. He's fast and explosive and appears to possess decent stamina, but he doesn't assimilate new skills quickly and continues to rely too much on instinct, which shows that whatever he's learning in the gym isn't being properly internalised. While he's demonstrated an improved ability to box with composure his other skills, ring control, distancing, drawing reactions from opponents to initiate openings, is still crude and underdeveloped. In this way his ring IQ is vastly inferior to Fury's.
Fury would box his ears off. If that French pudding could do that to Wilders eyes, imagine what the switch hitting, highly accurate Fury will do. Wilder will be blind after round 6.
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And yet you trust Fury's chin ? Craziness. If Wilder touched Fury's jaw the dude would NEVER wake up.Fury was down from a Cunningham punch so certainly he is in danger of getting KOed by the hard punching Wilder. I just give Fury the edge to win but Wilder could win it.
I can't believe how close the voting is on this fight. How can anyone pick Wilder over Fury? Skills are planets apart!
Maybe just maybe boxing fans realize Wilder has big punch and saw Fury put hard on his azz vs a light hitting cruiser weight
I voted Fury, But it a 50/50 fight. Fury is better then Stiverne and has some swag in his style. Wilder has more raw power and faster hands. Personally I think hes better then Micheal Grant, But wont be able to get past Povetkin whos has been on a roll since his fight with Wlad.
There's no question that Fury has the better resume, his wins over Chisora, Johnson, Cunningham and Hammer are all better than anything Wilder’s done, except for Stiverne. I rate Stiverne on the same level as a prime Chisora. On paper, Fury beats Wilder, but fights aren't won on paper, and Wilder shows a lot of potential everytime he fights. This is a toss-up for me, I believe Wilder has what it takes to rise to the occasion and make it very competitive.
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Fury knocks Wilder out. People should stop using Stiverne as a measure of Wilder's skills. The Stiverne that Wilder fought was not even half the fighter he usually is. The guy was a zombie that night. I doubt that we will ever see a Fury - Wilder fight in any case because I don't think Wilder survives Povetkin. And after that, his stock will drop considerably and I do not see any top fighter giving him a shot. Haymon will keep feeding him cans to keep him going until he introduces his own titles, one of which is surely reserved for Wilder.
He was exactly the fighter he really is. You can see this clearly in past performance against movers.
There's no question that Fury has the better resume, his wins over Chisora, Johnson, Cunningham and Hammer are all better than anything Wilder’s done, except for Stiverne. I rate Stiverne on the same level as a prime Chisora. On paper, Fury beats Wilder, but fights aren't won on paper, and Wilder shows a lot of potential everytime he fights. This is a toss-up for me, I believe Wilder has what it takes to rise to the occasion and make it very competitive.
Fury knocks Wilder out. People should stop using Stiverne as a measure of Wilder's skills. The Stiverne that Wilder fought was not even half the fighter he usually is. The guy was a zombie that night. I doubt that we will ever see a Fury - Wilder fight in any case because I don't think Wilder survives Povetkin. And after that, his stock will drop considerably and I do not see any top fighter giving him a shot. Haymon will keep feeding him cans to keep him going until he introduces his own titles, one of which is surely reserved for Wilder.
The hype behind Fury is baseless and blind. Wilder has serious issues but he's far stronger, has a better chin, and is faster. Fury literally has no advantages in this one. People look at his record without having watched his fights and think Tyson must be great. He's narrowly escaped defeat countless times, often with help from the ref. Tyson Fury is a fun personality and always comes to fight but that doesn't mean we need to pretend he's a great boxer. Just love him for what he is.
I'm not buying the bits in bold. Wilder has been knocked down and rocked by fringe men and bums and blown out in the ams, his chin is china. As for stronger, not buying that either. Fury is a lot heavier and probably lifts more. I'm struggling to think of the fights Fury almost lost or should have lost, maybe McDermot 1 was contentious but he beat him easily in a return. And just going on Fury's last two displays, Hammer and Chisora, compared to Wilder vs Molina and Duhapaus. I think Fury is the better guy.
The hype behind Fury is baseless and blind. Wilder has serious issues but he's far stronger, has a better chin, and is faster. Fury literally has no advantages in this one. People look at his record without having watched his fights and think Tyson must be great. He's narrowly escaped defeat countless times, often with help from the ref. Tyson Fury is a fun personality and always comes to fight but that doesn't mean we need to pretend he's a great boxer. Just love him for what he is.
That would be a very entertaining fight. But if DW somehow beats Povetkin he's going to go back to fighting Molina's and Duhuapas level guys, certainly won't be going for dangerous dudes unless mandatory.