How bad does a prime Roy Jones beat lil Golovkin?

No, it's actually people like you who talk about Golovkin as if he's invincible. It's amusing how you belittle Jones career but hype another fighter who doesn't have a single defining career win at 33 years of age. A prime Roy Jones jr would never have to take numerous flush shots from a C level fighter like Willie Monroe jr. That's all that needs to be said about that. You're one of those "stupid" people you're referring to. Great post. These guys are clueless.

People talking about RJJ like he was invincible, the man only really started knocking people out when he was on the juice, and still his best two wins never came by knockout. GGG has taken everyones power till date without flinchin and you talk like he would all of a sudden get KOd by someone who himself had a dodgy jaw. Stupidity of some people seriously. Another ridiculous ironic post. You're questioning people's stupidity, after writing the above? He only started knocking people out when he was on the juice? And is that factual, or just your opinion? So far GGG has taken everyone's power at MW? Ha! Who's power has he taken, that was even comparable to what Roy would have brought to the table?

Virgil Hill was OLD as ever when Roy KO'ed him with that body shot. Do you think Roy would even fight "prime" Hill, who was an elite fighter? Hell no! HE wouldn't even fight Michael Nunn! Nunn would've kicked Roy's ass too! And of course he barely lost a round in his prime. He was a product of excellent match making. We do have a clue. You are a Fanboy like many others on here. Roy ain't walking through SK or GGG, man. Only an idiot thinks that. You fanboys are over the top and have gone too far on here. Roy and Floyd are not boxing gods!!!!!! SRL and Sweet Pea were!!!! Get the difference? How ironic of you to call me a fanboy, when you are an irrational hater, pure and simple. Virgil Hill was faded, yes. But he wasn't shot. He went and beat Tiozzo in a round just a few years later. If Hill was so weak, why didn't Dariusz M knock him out? Roy was the only guy whoever knocked him out, and he retired as a CW. Why wouldn't Roy have fought a prime Hill? Why not? He fought Toney, Hopkins, Tarver and Calzaghe etc. So why not Hill? He didn't want to fight Nunn at LHW, because he wanted to fight Evander at HW, and the Nunn fight didn't bring enough money in. When Evander turned him down and the Douglas fight fell through, that's when he ended up fighting Hill. And the Hill fight brought in twice the amount that a Nunn fight would have. If Roy feared a faded Nunn, why did he try and fight Frankie Liles (who'd beaten Nunn) and why did he fight Harding, Tarver X3 and Calzaghe etc? Makes sense. I've never said that Roy would have walked through GGG and Kov. But it's hilarious how you're criticising Roy and his resume, while at the same time you're bigging up GGG and Kov, who've hardly done anything as yet. It's ridiculous. You say Roy couldn't have beaten GGG or Kov because he was hyped, and didn't have any noteworthy wins. HELLO! GGG's best win is Martin Murray, and Kov's best win is a 50 year old Hopkins, who Roy beat with a fractured hand 22 years ago. Ha! Keep hating.

What A Level fighters did Roy fight? Hopkins? Guess what? Bernard was not an A Level fighter when Roy fought him. He was a prospect. And James Toney was arrogant and didn't train for Roy or else he would've KO'ed him. You see what Hopkin's did to Roy in the rematch when he was an A Level fighter? You see what JC did to him? You see what Tarver did to him? You see what GJ did to him? And Johnson wasn't even an A Level fighter. Roy lacked heart and toughness. On top of that, he couldn't take a punch. You morons don't know boxing in my eyes. One attribute does not beat a great fighter. Roy's speed would not keep SK or GGG off him. It wouldn't keep SRL or Hagler off of him. He would have to take leather to beat those guys. PERIOD. History says, he wouldn't be able to take that kind of leather. And one more example. Remember how Danny green Ko'ed Roy. Hahaha!!!! Do you remember how Tarver went over to his home town and beat him down with fundamentals just a short time after???? The end! Just stop. Your posts are getting more and more embarrassing. You obviously don't want an objective debate. Toney would have knocked him out if he'd have trained? Sure. You're mentioning fights against the likes of Calzaghe when he was 40? Why, what does that prove? How is that relevant to what we're discussing? Joe was a scavenger who would never have dared to fight Roy in his prime. When Roy was prime, he was struggling with Robin Reid and defending his precious belt from the WBO, who were an organisation who moved a guy up their rankings after he'd died. You think Danny Green and Glen Johnson would have beaten Roy when he was prime? They'd have been lucky to win a round. He had no heart? You're a joke. Roy's speed would not have kept SRL and Hagler off of him? Really? How about the fact that along with that incredible speed, he would have been bigger, stronger, heavier, just as skilled, and he'd have possessed one punch knockout power? Dumbass. With regards to GGG and Kov, come back when they've beaten guys better than Geale, Murray, a 50 year old Hopkins and Pascal. Man, you are clueless.

A prime Jr destroys GGG. It would be like a professional boxer against a tough man contestant.

He wasn't. What's elusive about being an athletic freak? About fighting B/C/D level opposition? Roy lacked basic boxing fundamentals. He did amateurish things that an A Level fighter WILL take advantage of. He was not that great of a fighter. Americans love hype and so does the media. I'm English. It doesn't matter what you think about his fundamentals etc. Before Tarver and Johnson knocked him out when he'd had 50 fights, at 35, how many times was he hit clean, badly hurt, and dropped? When he was prime, he was extremely hard to hit clean. Yes, he had an unconventional defence. His defence was based on his great reflexes. But guys couldn't hit him and badly hurt him. He barely lost rounds in his prime. How the hell is that not being elusive? Also, he didn't just fight low level opposition. He fought a lot of top ten ranked guys, especially at LHW.

someone posted that this fight would be 50/50 :lol1: :lol1:

Y'all musta forgot...

I'm a big GGG fan. .but he won't beat a prime RJJ ..3G has a puncher chance l.. don't see him landing to many punches on JR..even while cutting the ring as well as he does. . Even if he were to cut off the ring it's like running into spikes, one thing we've now learned, or at least reassured ourselves of is that Golovkin isn't an inside fighter, he operates at the range in which Roy would kill him.

I say he does him worse than he did James Toney. I'm a big GGG fan. .but he won't beat a prime RJJ ..3G has a puncher chance l.. don't see him landing to many punches on JR..even while cutting the ring as well as he does. .

Not beating top fighters YET, doesn't mean you're not skilled enough to do so. Before Floyd fought his debut, he was skilled enough to beat the champion, he hadn't fought anyone yet, but he was skilled enough to do it. Not fighting better fighters YET isn't an indicator of your skill level. Bernard didnt lose for a DECADE after he lost to Roy. No, but it means you haven't proven it. Anything before actually doing it is speculation.

]People talking about RJJ like he was invincible, the man only really started knocking people out when he was on the juice, and still his best two wins never came by knockout. GGG has taken everyones power till date without flinchin and you talk like he would all of a sudden get KOd by someone who himself had a dodgy jaw. Stupidity of some people seriously. No, it's actually people like you who talk about Golovkin as if he's invincible. It's amusing how you belittle Jones career but hype another fighter who doesn't have a single defining career win at 33 years of age. A prime Roy Jones jr would never have to take numerous flush shots from a C level fighter like Willie Monroe jr. That's all that needs to be said about that. You're one of those "stupid" people you're referring to.

- Really bad, he would abuse him. Roy in his prime was something special, he was just so athlectic and gifted. I never seen anyone lead with an uppercut..and land with power.. He was amazing to watch.

Roy toys with him. It would be embarrassing.

Yes. But him and Roy were number 1 and 2 by the IBF fighting for a vacant title, surely that makes him a top middleweight contender? By ranking, I would say yes. By skill level at that time in his career, that win meant absolutely nothing for either of them. Honestly. Know what I am saying? It's not like either one of them had a "significant" win at that the time they met. I say the same for any number one or number two contender. what is their skill level? How good are they at number one and number two?

Sure. Roy fought a very green Hopkins in 1993. Keep in mind that Hopkins turned Professional in "1988". Prior to fighting Roy, he fought Gilbert Baptist and Wayne Powell. Neither had fought anyone as good as the other. Hopkin's prime officially started with his unification win over Tito. Despite being 36yrs of age at the time, Roy was his most significant fight prior to the Tito win. But him and Roy were number 1 and 2 by the IBF fighting for a vacant title, surely that makes him a top middleweight contender?

Sure...... Can you explain how Hopkins was a 'prospect' when he fought Roy the first time? Sure. Roy fought a very green Hopkins in 1993. Keep in mind that Hopkins turned Professional in "1988". Prior to fighting Roy, he fought Gilbert Baptist and Wayne Powell. Neither had fought anyone as good as the other. Hopkin's prime officially started with his unification win over Tito. Despite being 36yrs of age at the time, Roy was his most significant fight prior to the Tito win.

People talking about RJJ like he was invincible, the man only really started knocking people out when he was on the juice, and still his best two wins never came by knockout. GGG has taken everyones power till date without flinchin and you talk like he would all of a sudden get KOd by someone who himself had a dodgy jaw. Stupidity of some people seriously.

What A Level fighters did Roy fight? Hopkins? Guess what? Bernard was not an A Level fighter when Roy fought him. He was a prospect. And James Toney was arrogant and didn't train for Roy or else he would've KO'ed him. You see what Hopkin's did to Roy in the rematch when he was an A Level fighter? You see what JC did to him? You see what Tarver did to him? You see what GJ did to him? And Johnson wasn't even an A Level fighter. Roy lacked heart and toughness. On top of that, he couldn't take a punch. You morons don't know boxing in my eyes. One attribute does not beat a great fighter. Roy's speed would not keep SK or GGG off him. It wouldn't keep SRL or Hagler off of him. He would have to take leather to beat those guys. PERIOD. History says, he wouldn't be able to take that kind of leather. And one more example. Remember how Danny green Ko'ed Roy. Hahaha!!!! Do you remember how Tarver went over to his home town and beat him down with fundamentals just a short time after???? The end! Can you explain how Hopkins was a 'prospect' when he fought Roy the first time?

What A Level fighters did Roy fight? Hopkins? Guess what? Bernard was not an A Level fighter when Roy fought him. He was a prospect. And James Toney was arrogant and didn't train for Roy or else he would've KO'ed him. You see what Hopkin's did to Roy in the rematch when he was an A Level fighter? You see what JC did to him? You see what Tarver did to him? You see what GJ did to him? And Johnson wasn't even an A Level fighter. Roy lacked heart and toughness. On top of that, he couldn't take a punch. You morons don't know boxing in my eyes. One attribute does not beat a great fighter. Roy's speed would not keep SK or GGG off him. It wouldn't keep SRL or Hagler off of him. He would have to take leather to beat those guys. PERIOD. History says, he wouldn't be able to take that kind of leather. And one more example. Remember how Danny green Ko'ed Roy. Hahaha!!!! Do you remember how Tarver went over to his home town and beat him down with fundamentals just a short time after???? The end! In other words: "Those A fighters he beat don't count! Now let me bring up a bunch of fights from when Roy was shot!!" Jackass. I don't think you actually know who Roy Jones is and you're just repeating nonsense somebody told you.