The PBC show was a disgrace..who approves these mismatches in Toronto?

You are severely undervaluing HBO Boxing if you don't think there are many people who have HBO cuz of HBO Boxing. There is a reason HBO Boxing is one of the longest running series on TV & the longest running series HBO has. Are there always good shows there? Well obviously. That doesn't mean there aren't a nice lil segment of subscribers who'd cancel HBO if the boxing went away. Granted that number might be smaller than at previous times in the past when HBO had wider known name boxers, but its still there. I disagree. Some of the ratings PBC is already pulling are fine. ESPN is good. Spike is good. Those are channels with built in combat sports fans already to one degree or another. The other channels are all new to boxing for the most part. The national TV stuff will grow eventually. It takes time to build a product, a brand. And the star thing takes time too. I think PBC is putting forth a good effort at building stars with some of their shows & series'. Again though this is something that takes time. With the PBC roster of 200 or w/e fighters there is no doubt some stars will emerge. I think Artur Beterbiev is a star waiting to happen & perhaps might end up being the first PBC star to really take off. If Richard S. gets a PBC gig as many of us are suspecting will happen I think you will see a much better focus happening with PBC & this process will speed up drastically. Their youtube series of getting to know the fighter have 10k views What exactly is gonna speed up? They are spamming fights and spamming youtube bids All Schaefer is gonna do is make some outlandish statements at pressers like "wilder is the 2nd coming of Lennox Lewis" The fights are trash and that's what we ,as boxing fans, should be concerned with. The bad ratings are a reflection of sh1t fights

Go look at what hockey does these days. Go look at most run of the mill NBA games. Those are so called major sports & they don't pull much better numbers then PBC is doing & they've got a much more stored history on national TV + aren't niche sports like boxing has been for the last few to several decades. HBO Boxing has a brand value that PBC Boxing doesn't have. I know people who only have HBO because of the boxing. Thats a loyalty PBC hasn't gathered in the 6 months its been around being pushed towards people who are only becoming reacquainted with boxing on a broader scale this year. This immediate success requirement PBC is supposed to be attain out of the gates is a far to lofty a goal so soon upon being thrust on the market. Boxing has been dead to most of the "its free doe" boxing fans for a long time. There is a certain time of re-introduction & a re-calibration going on with boxing to the masses that will take time & the places where PBC is at that has history with boxing seem to be having the numbers suspected or better so I don't see that they won't be able to grow those more basic channels in the future. Lol people don't have hbo just for the boxing. What planet are you living on? Other than the 2 friends who have hbo because of boxing . How many shows has hbo put on this year and how many do they have coming up? Way less than before-people aren't subscribing just so they can watch ggg fight. Kova and ggg are new stars . And the ratings on pbc won't get better. Over saturation. Lack of stars. And floyd pac ruined it for the future. That fight and the injury was horrific.

HBO is usually beating everyone in ratings. As they should be they are the industry leader. Fact remains PBC is #2 by most of the **** fans talk about namely quantity of quality fights & ratings. This is the first time in ages world championship boxing has been on network TV Network TV is available to way more people Hbo should NOT be having better ratings

You want to put sht fights on TV to build up a fighter...ok then fine. But don't put fighters like an old washed up Harris who has been KO'd so many times (6) in his last fight 10 as the co main event with a undefeated prospect just to tell people, look at this new kid, he is a monster. The fight was only a 6 rounder which probably was the only justification on having it in the first place but they knew Harris would be ko'd before that.

you just posted the opposite Then you misinterpreted what I meant

Karpency has 4 losses, his one win was against a faded Dawson and was controversial and he doesnt even train at a gym, he trains at his house and doesn't have sparring partners

and i contribute to both so why do i care? you just posted the opposite

hbo is destroying pbc in the ratings well when u only have couple shows every couple months not really hard to do

hbo is destroying pbc in the ratings And I contribute to both so why do I care?

Because they didn't watch them. PBC advertises better so they know when it's on. hbo is destroying pbc in the ratings

why does no one complain about the golden boy fs1 mismatches or tru tv mismatches? i mean give me a break already Crawford/Jean is garbage and it sounds like Lomachenko will be fighting a poor opponent too. One reason for this though is that their best options are with the PBC. Haymon has all the resources to put his top level guys like Stevenson and Quillin in much better fights than this. He doesn't need to match them in super fights every time out, but he's scrapping bottom to come up with some of these opponents. Quillin/Han or Reyes would be 100x better than Zerafa and Stevenson/La Bomba or Cleverly as well.

why does no one complain about the golden boy fs1 mismatches or tru tv mismatches? i mean give me a break already Because they didn't watch them. PBC advertises better so they know when it's on.

What's entertaining to one may be boring to others. I think Haymon's version of entertainment is when his guy is able to fight in a dominating fashion.

i generally don't watch PBC shows. i certainly don't watch them live. i DVR them, and i usually don't even watch the DVR unless there's a good fight on there. i watched mares / santa cruz, because that was a legitimate fight.

why does no one complain about the golden boy fs1 mismatches or tru tv mismatches? i mean give me a break already

Haymon is just preparing to give us a huge 2018. Wait and see.

People find a way to complain all the time, in my opinion long as the fights were entertaining and not a boring run fest I'm pretty much satisfied both Karpency and that Dutch ass sounding name guy came to fight they tried their best but it wasn't good enough but least they tried. Dutch sounding guy? You don't even know and you're saying this is good stuff? "He tried doe"

People find a way to complain all the time, in my opinion long as the fights were entertaining and not a boring run fest I'm pretty much satisfied both Karpency and that Dutch ass sounding name guy came to fight they tried their best but it wasn't good enough but least they tried. I knew someone would say something like this If you say it how It is you get labelled a hater And yea it's on free TV.....for Americans Half of boxingscenes visitors are not in America It's been an awful year of boxing and pbc matchmaking is a huge reason why Go look at the pbc threads earlier in thr year. You'll see me defending haymon but fast forward a few mknths and majoroty of fights are garbage Lsc mares was good Huck fight too But besides that mismatches have been rife

The match making is awful

boxing fans hate boxing and will do anything to destroy it??? People find a way to complain all the time, in my opinion long as the fights were entertaining and not a boring run fest I'm pretty much satisfied both Karpency and that Dutch ass sounding name guy came to fight they tried their best but it wasn't good enough but least they tried.