160lb hopkins vs ggg who wins

GGG would beat Hopkin's in a similar way that SK did. He would outwork Hopkin's and not fall for his tricks. Hopkin's is a bit overrated on here like Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather. GGG is a "smart" pressure fighter. :dunce: Jesus lord....where in the world do these people come from? :Flush: You mean the 50 year old Hopkins that had no work rate left, and whose defense, reflexes, and legs were a shadow of what they once were? You are comparing that Hopkins to the 160 pound prime ATG that was a non stop mix of offense and defensive brilliance? You honestly think that a Hopkins/GGG fight would look like Kov vs an old man? NSB still has the ability to dumbfound me to this day.

Prime middle weight hopkins wouldnt lose to a guy as slow as ggg. Prime Hop had problems with Roys speed, but Roy had other-worldly speed. Hops problem with speed and volume imo only became an issue as an older fighter. I think his loses to taylor and cal had more to due with his age then their speed.

Doesn't Hopkins still hold the quickest middleweight championship Knockout on record?

In his prime I would definitely favor Hopkins.

Haven't watched any Young Hopkins have you!!! Golovkin is not a high volume puncher, nor does he obtain the speed that was Hopkins biggest issue. A prime Hopkins had speed, Power, skills and the chin that was never shook at middleweight... Outside of Mercado who he later devastated in the rematch of the draw. I've seen all of Hopkins old fights, and he was a much funner fighter back then (Johnson, Council, Brown), but that's the version of Nard that'd have the least success with Golovkin. You need to go back and watch Hopkins/Echols I. He could be hurt by a legit puncher but he didn't face too many during his MW run outside of Echols and Trinidad. Bernard was never a big puncher himself, so it's a question on how he would keep Golovkin off him. He could throw some hard pot shots and maybe break Golovkin down over the distance, but he'd be taking damage. I never said Golovkin was high volume, but he is pressure with power & precision. And if Nard tried to clinch and wrestle he'd be getting some nasty shots on his hips and body (like he likes to dish out but with less effect). It'd be an awesome fight either way.

You know GGG is a hell of a fighter when his haters want him to fight Toney and Hopkins on the same morning. I voted a draw. I won't put a loss on the record of either of these two great middleweights even in a fantasy fight.

Based on the fact that Hopkins always struggles with the Elite fights. so in your book ggg (with ZERO quality wins) is elite?

BHop gets outworked like he did vs Taylor. Hopkins/Echols I, Bernard showed his chin wasn't invincible, it's very likely Golovkin could hurt him. Bernard winning this fight would be dependent on him shutting down GGG's offense, because Bernard was neither a big puncher nor a high volume guy. Golovkin doesn't fight like Trinidad. Tito was the smaller man and didn't handle the rough house tactics Hopkins uses very well. Golovkin includes clinch/wrestling into his training. Haven't watched any Young Hopkins have you!!! Golovkin is not a high volume puncher, nor does he obtain the speed that was Hopkins biggest issue. A prime Hopkins had speed, Power, skills and the chin that was never shook at middleweight... Outside of Mercado who he later devastated in the rematch of the draw.

Would be a good one, that's all I know :boxing:

This is more insulting than asking about Toney/GGG. Although Hopkins started slow, he was possibly the only fighter who gave a young Jones trouble with his skill set. Hopkins power at middleweight is often underrated along with his skill. Hopkins would toy with Golovkin!! Period, you think other wise... Your obviously just a fan boy who doesn't know sh** about boxing!

based on what? That long list of elite boxers and murderous punchers on gggs resume? Based on the fact that Hopkins always struggles with the Elite fights.

GGG would be too smart for Hopkins and would his superior boxing skills to figure him out. Hopkins always struggled with the very good fighters and GGG would be no exception. based on what? That long list of elite boxers and murderous punchers on gggs resume?

I think he missed the fact that you're an idiot. Donaire & Rigo fight at 122 GGG fights at 160 Ward fights at 168. Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard but two of those fights don't fight in the same division. While the other two do. no need to be a priikc, the fact remains, ggg has yet to fight a quality opponent and has no concrete plans to do so. Rigo took the chance and made it pay

No you missed the point all together (shocking). Again, when Rigo was presented an opportunity to prove himself (Donaire, p4p number 6 at the time), he jumped on it. When ggg was presented an opportunity to prove himself, they ran for cover I think he missed the fact that you're an idiot. Donaire & Rigo fight at 122 GGG fights at 160 Ward fights at 168. Don't hurt yourself thinking too hard but two of those fights don't fight in the same division. While the other two do.

Donaire wasn't fighting in his best division that much is evident that and the fact he was good but nothing special, beating an opponent like Donaire by YOUR standard to rate someone great/proven doesn't count. Oh yes Donaire gave the fight offer to Rigo when Rigo was fighting in the same weight division how does that compare? We have to ignore all the amateur fights Rigo and GGG had as well because that doesn't count by your criteria as well so in essence you're basically saying both these guys are unproven and don't deserve to be called good. No you missed the point all together (shocking). Again, when Rigo was presented an opportunity to prove himself (Donaire, p4p number 6 at the time), he jumped on it. When ggg was presented an opportunity to prove himself, they ran for cover

GGG would be too smart for Hopkins and would his superior boxing skills to figure him out. Hopkins always struggled with the very good fighters and GGG would be no exception.

Ggg............ GGG would beat Hopkin's in a similar way that SK did. He would outwork Hopkin's and not fall for his tricks. Hopkin's is a bit overrated on here like Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather. GGG is a "smart" pressure fighter.

No when Rigo was presented an opportunity for a big fight (Donaire, #6 p4p at the time) he jumped all over it, won an easy decision and proved his worth. When ggg was presented his big opportunity (Ward) his team insisted on an impossible catch weight and ran for cover Donaire wasn't fighting in his best division that much is evident that and the fact he was good but nothing special, beating an opponent like Donaire by YOUR standard to rate someone great/proven doesn't count. Oh yes Donaire gave the fight offer to Rigo when Rigo was fighting in the same weight division how does that compare? We have to ignore all the amateur fights Rigo and GGG had as well because that doesn't count by your criteria as well so in essence you're basically saying both these guys are unproven and don't deserve to be called good.

A bit like Rigondeaux? No when Rigo was presented an opportunity for a big fight (Donaire, #6 p4p at the time) he jumped all over it, won an easy decision and proved his worth. When ggg was presented his big opportunity (Ward) his team insisted on an impossible catch weight and ran for cover

BHop gets outworked like he did vs Taylor. Hopkins/Echols I, Bernard showed his chin wasn't invincible, it's very likely Golovkin could hurt him. Bernard winning this fight would be dependent on him shutting down GGG's offense, because Bernard was neither a big puncher nor a high volume guy. Golovkin doesn't fight like Trinidad. Tito was the smaller man and didn't handle the rough house tactics Hopkins uses very well. Golovkin includes clinch/wrestling into his training.