I know Golden Boy Promotions lost most of the guys that Haymon took over to Premier Boxing Champions. Does that mean most of the guys signed with Al Haymon are promotional free agents? I see guys like Errol Spence in Mayweather's entourage but when I look at the Mayweather Promotions website I don't see him listed as their fighter. Can somebody fill me in?
I agree in theory that guys at that level dont need a promoter. So whether its out of loyalty, or wanting some sort of security (contract minimums for # of fights and purses), who knows.....
It's no secret that Manny gets a lot of money advanced to him up front by Top Rank. He's obviously comfortable with the arrangement. Most fighters don't want to be bothered with details. They just want things arranged for them so they can prepare accordingly. Very, very few fighters are actually good businessmen as well as talented boxers.
Yea I'm not disagreeing with that or not understanding why lesser or no name guys need promoters. I'm saying guys like Canelo & Pacquiao for the easiest examples to bring up. Canelo doesn't need GBP, Pacquiao doesn't need TR. They're name guys who are gonna draw a crowd for the foreseeable future. They would both make more money by auctioning themselves off basically for each fight I feel. An that'd probably give them a wider opponent selection if they could flip over to any promoters roster for a fight.
I agree in theory that guys at that level dont need a promoter. So whether its out of loyalty, or wanting some sort of security (contract minimums for # of fights and purses), who knows.....
lou dibella must be loving it.he gets paid and basically does no work all he does is lend his name. we all know who the real promoter is.
Now do you see why he was so viciously defending Haymon when word of Oscar and TR were suing him? I dont blame him, business is business, but I know he wasnt sticking up for him out of good will.
Agree.
I'm still surprised more name guys aren't promotional free agents going to the highest bidder with each fight. Seems like they'd be a better way to maximize your income as a elite level name boxer.
most fighters sign with a promoter because they dont have the $100k+ that it takes to develop a fighter (non-olympian) from a pro-debut to their 15th or 20th fight.
I think PBC has a core group of 5 or 6 promoters that do all of their cards, but it seems like very few of the boxers signed to a managerial deal with Haymon also have a promotional deal with one of those 5 or 6 promoters.
Haymon is a promoter by proxy
I know Golden Boy Promotions lost most of the guys that Haymon took over to Premier Boxing Champions. Does that mean most of the guys signed with Al Haymon are promotional free agents? I see guys like Errol Spence in Mayweather's entourage but when I look at the Mayweather Promotions website I don't see him listed as their fighter. Can somebody fill me in?
What need is there to formally sign with a promoter when your manager/adviser has more TV dates than basically every other non-affiliated promoter combined?
I can understand a Canadian signing to GYM (the Canadian PPV access is seemingly only through Michel or Interbox), or a Mexican signing with Zanfer Promotions (Solo Boxeo, i believe, basically gives them access to 30-40 shows per year), but that's about it Broadway Boxing series, and his co-promotional pipeline to a lot of the talent coming out of the Ukraine elevates his name in it all. Only hang up is that DiBella, until now with the PBC, was never really able to get a serious in with any major broadcaster to feature his fighters].
There's hardly a reason to obligate yourself to a promoter, especially with the TV access out of the promoter's hands and a fighter's camp willing to take a little risk and bet on the continued success of the fighter.
Basically the Haymon vision, as i see it, in a nutshell; control your own destiny, be the best fighter that you can be, winning fights gets you moved to bigger opportunities, losing fights sets you back a bit (though losing an exciting, even fight may simply leave you treading in place), and there are enough possible fight cards to keep the fighter as busy as they want to be kept (with opportunities simply limited to what opponents are ready to step in and how big an opportunity the fighter's camp is actually looking for).
I think PBC is using DiBella Entertainment
http://twitter.com/loudibella/status/631644315719213056lou dibella must be loving it.he gets paid and basically does no work all he does is lend his name. we all know who the real promoter is.