Who took the killer instict from pacman?

Marquez killed the killer instinct. Even though before the ko age was slowing him down, he was still fearless and trying to kill guys. After the Marquez KO he's fought differently, more cautious, backing up from guys he would have otherwise beat the sht out of for thinking they could come to him e.g Bradley II.

Age, Wealth, Wear & Tear were already making him decline as a fighter, being KTFO by Marquez just put the final nail in the coffin for Manny has an elite fighter. Also, a lot of the fights where he did stop guys or put a beating on them were against guys who were tailor made to be hit. He has been less effective against certain styles for as long as anybody can remember.

Last time i saw pacquiao killer instinct was Marquez 4 and never since so il go with Marquez 4 fight

If we go by his own words, it was Margarito. He's interviewed here in a local TV and he said that he was really hurt on that fight and was about to quit. He was interviewed again before the Mosley fight and he still mentioned the name Margarito. Those who said he showed mercy on Margarito is BS IMO. I think he wanted the fight to stop because of himself seeing a danger of another hard shot, not because of pity to Margo.

I think just working at a high levels can break your body down at that age. You can't really have an older guy be as explosive as a young guy, and thats how pacquiao fought. He still does the same stuff it just isnt forced enough because he learned to box more lol

I vote Margarito. The drop-off after that fight was marked. Manny was in bed for like 3 days straight after that fight. I suspect if he and his team knew what they knew now they would go back and pass on that fight. It took Manny's prime overnight. Definately . When asked what was his toughest fight to date ,he always say margarito. He said he was hurt 3 times off body shots alone. And on one of those nasty body shots he thought abkut taking a knee and quitting right there from sheer pain. He also said margarito hurt him twice to the head . A clipping overhand and a left hook to the neck /back of the head

He stopped going into sea water. Now that he is back in it he will be back at full force.

The request for random drug testing killed pacmans killer instinct. Once it got too hot in the kitchen, he stopped jacking up curious when pac did all these peds. under fortune mid-lete 2000's? under ariza late 2000's-early 2010's? pac could have used peds. i don't know. but all the "PROOF" of his ped use are nonsense from uninformed ppl who just found out about pac because of delahoya fight. ped suspicions about pac: 1. he got bigger. pac was like 140-147 fight night when he was at 122-130. he hasn't gotten bigter. 2. increased speed. pac was always fast. 3. increased power. pac was a monster at 112-126. one punch ko power. he lost power moving up. 4. koing bigger guys. his only kos at 147 were delahoya quitting, cotto getting stopped. marg, clottey, mosley, rios, algieri, bradley all went the distance. 5. fortune/ariza fortune and ariza was with him mid-2000's. before that no money for physical trainers. pac speed, power was there before that.

Pago007 had it right lol. He got off that juice haha. I love how when Manny loses or looks bad it's because "he lost that killer instinct". No he was doing the best he could and just not getting it done. Sure Pac looks good against B level fighters like Rios and Algieri. Let's be real though...even though he technically won both he didn't look good against Bradley. He in reality lost 3 out of 4 against JMM (and should be 0-3-1 against him if boxing was truly fair) and Floyd outclassed him. He can still punch quick (BS shoulder crap aside) and knock people off balance but he can't bust a grape at WW. He needs to go back to 140 and maybe get another KO. Freddie won't let Pac anywhere near Brook or Thurman so not many other options. Unless its Garcia at 147. Have you got any evidence Manny was on PEDS? Thanks in advance.

Pago007 had it right lol. He got off that juice haha. I love how when Manny loses or looks bad it's because "he lost that killer instinct". No he was doing the best he could and just not getting it done. Sure Pac looks good against B level fighters like Rios and Algieri. Let's be real though...even though he technically won both he didn't look good against Bradley. He in reality lost 3 out of 4 against JMM (and should be 0-3-1 against him if boxing was truly fair) and Floyd outclassed him. He can still punch quick (BS shoulder crap aside) and knock people off balance but he can't bust a grape at WW. He needs to go back to 140 and maybe get another KO. Freddie won't let Pac anywhere near Brook or Thurman so not many other options. Unless its Garcia at 147.

What Margarito fight are people remembering? He took some good body shots, but other than that, he beat the breaks of Margarito, and wobbled him several times, and could have stopped him, but chose to carry him. The fight didn't take a lot out of him. He took more punishment in the Marquez fights, and the Cotto fight than the Margarito fight. Manny's OWN words. He said this was a really tough fight, he cancelled his post fight singing party, he was laid up in bed for 3 days straight pissing blood. Not sure what he had to gain by making sh*t up.

The killer instinct of every fighter, especially those who are highly aggressive, hard hitting and volume punching, leaves as time progresses. A lot of this has to do with a decrease in the hunger of great fighters, who feel like they don't have to fight how they once did, especially someone like Pacquiao who started off fighting for donuts to feed his family. Now, outside of the mental aspect, there are the physical signs of damage, Pac's been in several wars, with Morales, Marquez and so on. These are great fighters giving each other hell. He's been cut, KD, KOd, bruised, battered and everything in between. That will take a lot out of a fighter, especially in a near 20 year career where the guy has spent much of his adult life fighting at a championship level. So a combination of physical and mental change led to the loss of this killer instinct but it evolved Pacquiao into an aggressive technician, he out boxed Cotto, Margarito and Bradley. Against Mayweather, he came up against someone who was hungrier, in better shape both physical and mental and the injury may also have had a part to play. But Pacquiao, to me, seemed like he was happy with the 100 million and just wanted to talk about God. He didn't want to fight, it wasn't that he couldn't.

What Margarito fight are people remembering? He took some good body shots, but other than that, he beat the breaks of Margarito, and wobbled him several times, and could have stopped him, but chose to carry him. The fight didn't take a lot out of him. He took more punishment in the Marquez fights, and the Cotto fight than the Margarito fight.

Margarito... Manny dominated, but margaritos body shots zapped him and manny was never explosive or really high volume after that.. Thats nonsense. We saw Pac carry Margarito when he could have put him away at the end. He hurt him several times where he could have strung together a combination and ended the fight, but he showed compasion and backed off. He was past his prime for Margs already anyways. I think its a combination of the realities of fighting bigger men, and having to be more cautious and boxing more to win, instead of getting in and trading, and also, just getting older and mellowing out.

I vote Margarito. The drop-off after that fight was marked. Manny was in bed for like 3 days straight after that fight. I suspect if he and his team knew what they knew now they would go back and pass on that fight. It took Manny's prime overnight.

The request for random drug testing killed pacmans killer instinct. Once it got too hot in the kitchen, he stopped jacking up

AROD Lost his power when he stopped PED'S Mark Mcguire lost his killer instinct when he stopped the PED'S Was it COINCIDENCE that it left as soon as he started taking ped tests? :bounce: except pac was more ferocious and had more power BEFORE he was "SUPPOSEDLY" on peds. :dunce: pac 112-122 was a reckless, relentless monster puncher.

JMM, EASILY. I can't say it was Margarito because Pacquiao looked great against Mosley and Bradley. After he got KTFO, he didn't pressure like he used to, extra cautious after JMM. The agressive Pacquiao would have stopped someone like RIos, even Aligeri shouldn't have lasted that long, and PACQUIAO HAS FOUGHT BIGGER PUNCHERS, WILLING TO GET HIT SO HE CAN SET OFF A COMBO. AFTER THE KTFO6, IT WAS GONE. YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE KO DURING THE MAYWEATHER FIGHT. rios definitely. he was playing it safe (SAFE FOR HIM) 1 yr. layoff + got ktfo last fight algieri he was fine. bradley 2 he just cruised.

The lack of PED'S Agreed. Die hard pac fans don't want to entertain this.

Counter punchers, especially ones with good right hands. Put Manny in with one of them walking mummys and you will see the killer instinct back. Pretty much.