August 14th 2010 Gennady Golovkin vs Milton Nunez

HBO and Arum wanted Mayweather to move up and fight Castillo in April 2002, he rejected the fight and then they offered Johnston. Johnston lost to Castillo by MD in June 2000, in a major upset, then they had a rematch 3 months later and it was ruled a controversial draw where initially Johnston was declared the winner. Stevie wasn't given another opportunity by TR. At the time Johnston was offered to Floyd as alternative to Castillo, he was considered just as legit a threat. By the time Mayweather was done beating Castillo 2x, Johnston was on a 4 fight win streak w/o a dance partner. Floyd chose to fight Victor Sosa. You say Floyd would've fought Johnston if he'd beat Lazcano, but then make an excuse for Floyd not fighting Lazcano. Lazcano KO'd Johnston in September 2003 to become Floyd's mandatory. Floyd fought 130lber Phillip N'Dou on November 2003. I don't recall Lazcano rejecting the fight, I do recall Floyd getting criticism for picking N'Dou right after Sosa. Given that Floyd was making $3mill per fight at the time, and Lazcano had a very low income up to that point in his career, I don't think Lazcano would've turned down the fight. Can't find anything referencing Lazcano rejecting a Mayweather fight. I did find an article by Max Kellerman on the eve of the N'Dou fight pleading for Mayweather to fight his mandatory - Lazcano. Pretty sure if there was an issue with Lazcano rejecting the fight it would've been brought up in that article, but nope... http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/1654702.html Try to stay on topic,which is Gennady Golovkin vs. Milton Nunez.

Well, they sort of were and sort of weren't. Obviously it would have been better, but Johnson actually lost with a Floyd fight lined up if he had won. Two times in fact. Lazcano flatly refused the fight up front. Floyd was at the Lazcano/Johnson eliminator fight as it was going to be organised to fight the winner, which was meant to be Johnson, but Lazcano knocked him out, which put Johnson out of the running for the second time, and Lazcano literally refused the Floyd fight right there at the post fight press conference saying, from memory, that one million wasn't enough and he wanted more. Floyd wasn't earning much more himself at this stage mind you...so? :thinking: With Johnson, there was talk of an initial meet at 135 while Floyd was still at 130, which from memory is where Natas found the Arum thing *****ing about Floyd already. Johnson took a fight in the meantime against Castillo while they were still talking things out and trying to get negotiations begun for Floyd to move up to 135 for the fight, but guess what? Johnson lost to Castillo and Castillo became the man at 135. Should Floyd have fought Johnson instead of Castillo and copped ten times more flack, or should he have done what you're meant to do in that situation and fight the guy at the top of the division, the best fighter there that won, or should he have fought the loser? It's a real 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' thing it seems for Floyd. What do you respect him for doing more? Fighting the winner, or fighting the loser? It seems like you're saying he should have fought the loser instead. It takes two to tango remember and he was still with Arum. Finally, after Floyd had beaten Castillo the second time round properly, the Johnson fight looked to be back on track, and all Johnson had to do was beat Lazcano in the title eliminator, but he got knocked out and so Floyd offered the fight to Lazcano, who flatly refused it directly after the fight. The Johnson fight could have happened earlier, but when it did get underway for things to happen, Johnson lost twice in the lead up to it in fights he needed to win. Lazcano just refused. HBO and Arum wanted Mayweather to move up and fight Castillo in April 2002, he rejected the fight and then they offered Johnston. Johnston lost to Castillo by MD in June 2000, in a major upset, then they had a rematch 3 months later and it was ruled a controversial draw where initially Johnston was declared the winner. Stevie wasn't given another opportunity by TR. At the time Johnston was offered to Floyd as alternative to Castillo, he was considered just as legit a threat. By the time Mayweather was done beating Castillo 2x, Johnston was on a 4 fight win streak w/o a dance partner. Floyd chose to fight Victor Sosa. You say Floyd would've fought Johnston if he'd beat Lazcano, but then make an excuse for Floyd not fighting Lazcano. Lazcano KO'd Johnston in September 2003 to become Floyd's mandatory. Floyd fought 130lber Phillip N'Dou on November 2003. I don't recall Lazcano rejecting the fight, I do recall Floyd getting criticism for picking N'Dou right after Sosa. Given that Floyd was making $3mill per fight at the time, and Lazcano had a very low income up to that point in his career, I don't think Lazcano would've turned down the fight. Can't find anything referencing Lazcano rejecting a Mayweather fight. I did find an article by Max Kellerman on the eve of the N'Dou fight pleading for Mayweather to fight his mandatory - Lazcano. Pretty sure if there was an issue with Lazcano rejecting the fight it would've been brought up in that article, but nope... http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/1654702.html

They find the shorter man, the balder man and shorter dícked man more attractive? Seems legit Floyd is a 6.5/10. He's a handsome man.

gigi looks like a goofy mongolian. ask any girl and they will tell you they find floyd attractive They find the shorter man, the balder man and shorter dícked man more attractive? Seems legit

gigi looks like a goofy mongolian. ask any girl and they will tell you they find floyd attractive Keep race and ethniticity out of this,I don't want to ban you.

I think the real TBE is GGG I bet he has a bigger diq than Floyd as well that pretty much means I'm right, so my assessment goes as - Better looking Bigger sausage Not boring Beats womans poontang not their face Its as unanimous decision imo or for GGG another KO added to the streak. gigi looks like a goofy mongolian. ask any girl and they will tell you they find floyd attractive

Why do we care about what lizards Lucas Matthysse eats? haha. I'd rather watch some footage of Gennady than have to scroll through the same unoriginal agenda threads about may-pac.

I think the real TBE is GGG I bet he has a bigger diq than Floyd as well that pretty much means I'm right, so my assessment goes as - Better looking Bigger sausage Not boring Beats womans poontang not their face Its as unanimous decision imo or for GGG another KO added to the streak. This post is very intredasting. I'll have to give it some thought and get back to you.

Allways wonder what happen to Pirog? He was a beast!!! What kind of injury did he have? That sucks poor guy. Pirog hurt his back training in the mountains of Russia

I love talking about TBE just as much as the next guy,but lets try to keep this thread on topic. Larry already tried to derail the damn thing earlier but I was able to weather the storm,don't get me wrong I have a lot of love for Larry sometimes his love for Floyd is uncontrollable. This thread is about Gennady Golovkin vs. Milton Nunez on August 14th 2010. Also I will allow some Spike O'Sullivan discussion. I think the real TBE is GGG I bet he has a bigger diq than Floyd as well that pretty much means I'm right, so my assessment goes as - Better looking Bigger sausage Not boring Beats womans poontang not their face Its as unanimous decision imo or for GGG another KO added to the streak.

People who **** on Golovkin's resume, including me, should really put an asterisk next to his ****ty resume. Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Anthony Mundine Felix Sturm Miguel Cotto Peter Quillin Sebastian Zbik Darren Barker Sergio Gabriel Martinez Julio Cesar Chavez Jr Dmitry Pirog (career ending injury prevented GGG vs Pirog) Carl Froch These guys had the opportunity to fight GGG. http://i.imgur.com/OgZiymz.gif Allways wonder what happen to Pirog? He was a beast!!! What kind of injury did he have? That sucks poor guy.

Looks like fundamentally, Golovkin has come a long way.

I love talking about TBE just as much as the next guy,but lets try to keep this thread on topic. Larry already tried to derail the damn thing earlier but I was able to weather the storm,don't get me wrong I have a lot of love for Larry sometimes his love for Floyd is uncontrollable. This thread is about Gennady Golovkin vs. Milton Nunez on August 14th 2010. Also I will allow some Spike O'Sullivan discussion.

Ummmm, no, he didn't. Floyd stayed at 130 until he was about 24. He didn't move up any divisions in that time span. There's also quite a big difference between doing it in 3 round amateur fights and doing it at the highest world level against actual professional world champions. To pretend there isn't is very disingenuous. GGG turned pro at 24 and hasn't moved up a single division or beaten a single number one ranked or number one champion in that time despite now being 33. Maybe a less disingenuous thing to do would be to compare their records from 24 to 33? I believe he was actually 24, funnily enough, when he moved up from his first division at 130, maybe 23. By the age of 33 he'd already moved up five divisions and beaten I think about 15 world champions. So you said it was disingenuous to compare them as Floyd started at 19 and GGG at 24, and Floyd is now 38 and GGG 33. Well, between the ages of 24 and 33 GGG has beaten I think 2 or 3 champions and moved up, ummmm, no divisions at all in fact. Floyd, taking away his early growth period as a young man that you said gave him some kind of weird disingenuous statistical advantage, :thinking:, between the ages of 24 and 33 moved up five divisions and beat around 15 world champions, give or take, I couldn't be bothered counting properly. pwned!!!!!

Stevie Johnston and Juan Lazacano were major misses for Floyd at 135. Instead we got Victor Sosa and Philip N'Dou.... Well, they sort of were and sort of weren't. Obviously it would have been better, but Johnson actually lost with a Floyd fight lined up if he had won. Two times in fact. Lazcano flatly refused the fight up front. Floyd was at the Lazcano/Johnson eliminator fight as it was going to be organised to fight the winner, which was meant to be Johnson, but Lazcano knocked him out, which put Johnson out of the running for the second time, and Lazcano literally refused the Floyd fight right there at the post fight press conference saying, from memory, that one million wasn't enough and he wanted more. Floyd wasn't earning much more himself at this stage mind you...so? :thinking: With Johnson, there was talk of an initial meet at 135 while Floyd was still at 130, which from memory is where Natas found the Arum thing *****ing about Floyd already. Johnson took a fight in the meantime against Castillo while they were still talking things out and trying to get negotiations begun for Floyd to move up to 135 for the fight, but guess what? Johnson lost to Castillo and Castillo became the man at 135. Should Floyd have fought Johnson instead of Castillo and copped ten times more flack, or should he have done what you're meant to do in that situation and fight the guy at the top of the division, the best fighter there that won, or should he have fought the loser? It's a real 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' thing it seems for Floyd. What do you respect him for doing more? Fighting the winner, or fighting the loser? It seems like you're saying he should have fought the loser instead. It takes two to tango remember and he was still with Arum. Finally, after Floyd had beaten Castillo the second time round properly, the Johnson fight looked to be back on track, and all Johnson had to do was beat Lazcano in the title eliminator, but he got knocked out and so Floyd offered the fight to Lazcano, who flatly refused it directly after the fight. The Johnson fight could have happened earlier, but when it did get underway for things to happen, Johnson lost twice in the lead up to it in fights he needed to win. Lazcano just refused.

I agree with that fam, what we all need is a nice picture to look at. http://e0.365dm.com/15/05/16-9/20/spike-osullivan-middleweight_3306367.jpg?20150522121408 Ahhh....My sweet Spike. Here's a quick fact,GGG KO'd Nunez and Spike also has KO'd Nunez. Coincidence? I think not

Sir I'm going to have to ask you to calm down. Fam is short for family. I would like this place to be more family friendly environment and just for people to get along better. I thought by calling each other fam that it would be a good start. Its actually working quite well so far. Internet violence here is down by 40%. :lol1::lol1::lol1:

http://i2.wp.com/www.brobible.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/barber-meme-what-you-want-life-ruined.jpg?resize=869%2C800 I got you fam Jesus Christ...Someone needs to talk to Brush.

Sir I'm going to have to ask you to calm down. Fam is short for family. I would like this place to be more family friendly environment and just for people to get along better. I thought by calling each other fam that it would be a good start. Its actually working quite well so far. Internet violence here is down by 40%. I agree with that fam, what we all need is a nice picture to look at. http://e0.365dm.com/15/05/16-9/20/spike-osullivan-middleweight_3306367.jpg?20150522121408

What's with this 'fam' business I've been seeing more of late? What the hell does that mean and why are you two saying it to each other? I assume it's short for 'family'? Is it the new cool way of saying 'bro' or 'cunt'? Either way, sounds ****ing gay you cunts. Sir I'm going to have to ask you to calm down. Fam is short for family. I would like this place to be more family friendly environment and just for people to get along better. I thought by calling each other fam that it would be a good start. Its actually working quite well so far. Internet violence here is down by 40%.