Where would certain fighters be If they took the Floyd approach?

Gayweather mostly waited for everyone to fall off the wagon before he stepped inside the ring with them

Why do Floyd fans get defensive and try and protect Floyd so much? In your mind is Floyd career that important to you. In your mind has he many all the right decisions and fought everyone at their peak? GGG and Kovalev are just starting their championship run so comparing it to Floyds is not fair. I think GGG and Kovalev need to step it up more and if their choices of competition doesn't get better people will start to really complain. Kovalev wanted to fight Stevenson but Stevenson ran to the protect arms of Haymon and showtime. And Sergio never wanted to give GGG a shot when he was in his championship run. By the time GGG became champ Sergio was on the decline. I think Floyds career has went great, FOR HIM. But for the true die hards he has always left a sour taste in their mouths when it came to who he fought and when he fought them. Why do posters like you call it protecting or defending anytime someone posts a fact about Floyd that isn't negative? Why do positive facts about Floyd that negate a point made bother you so much? Sergio chose not to fight GGG, Stevenson chose not to fight Kov in 2014, ODH, shane, Manny and Cotto chose not to fight Floyd. It's retarded to hold these fights not happening on GGG, Kov and Floyd. If you have an issue with Floyd's resume, we can discuss that. If your issue is similar to the TS, blow it out your ass and blame the people who didn't make the fight when you feel it SHOULD have happened. In reality you give floyd too much credit. Your biased for one. Two, if Ali did it or sufar ray did it they would get shht for it. Andwer the question. Floy dc in reality played games and avoided paul williams winky forrest margarito . Oscar haf bigger fish to fry as well ad shane. He tried to fight cotto like canelo while green. Cant just blame manny floyd is 50 percent responsible. Any fan that thinks thatbtheir fighter is always in the 100 is biased .. plain and simple. you have never gone against a floyd decision or comment or contradiction. He is overated to most real fans due to cherry picking has beens and ling up overhyped fighters and fooling casuals. You are retarded but you made the exact same point I made-except you justify ODH, shane, cotto and Manny waiting to fight Floyd because you dislike Floyd. Just because all of your opinions regarding Floyd are negative, does not mean all of mine are positive or that I "haven't gone against Floyd", whatever that means. SInce you cant refute the facts, you try the label game. Sorry dude but far better posters than you have tried and failed with that. Floyd's place in the sport's history will not be determined by posters like you. If you think Floyd is over rated, fine with me. Put that on a sign and hold it up at Floyd's HOF induction ceremony. As for this thread-Sergio chose not to fight GGG, Stevenson chose not to fight Kov in 2014, ODH, shane, Manny and Cotto chose not to fight Floyd. It's retarded to hold these fights not happening on GGG, Kov and Floyd.

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Well he did lose to Castillo... He also ducked Margarito, and Pacman until fighting him was 'safe'. Match was dodgy as hell too.

All fighters should do it. Considering its so easy to go 20 years undefeated through 5 weight classes, 4 of which Lineal, 13 world titles, 10 #1 ranked fighters beaten, 7 Top 10 P4P fighters beaten, 22 world champions beaten. AND all whilst making the most money a boxer has ever made. It's so easy I'm surprised only Floyd has managed to pull it off. Because we all know doing the above is extremely easy and not impressive at all. Easy work for the current crop of boxers .... NOT!!!! :lol1:

All fighters should do it. Considering its so easy to go 20 years undefeated through 5 weight classes, 4 of which Lineal, 13 world titles, 10 #1 ranked fighters beaten, 7 Top 10 P4P fighters beaten, 22 world champions beaten. AND all whilst making the most money a boxer has ever made. It's so easy I'm surprised only Floyd has managed to pull it off. Because we all know doing the above is extremely easy and not impressive at all. Yeah, total piece of cake to fight for a World Title in your 18th fight and then win the next 30 fights after that. The more the ignorant try to attack Floyd's record the more chance there is that people get exposed to how truly remarkable it is. You can say this era of boxing was not as good as an earlier era, but you cannot say any fighter ever compiled a record as impressive as Floyd's in their era.

Real fans know the real reasons why prime SHane, ODH, cotto and Manny all refused to fight Floyd. If this poster wants to hold it against Floyd, so be it. Make sure you hold not fighting Sergio against GGG and not fighting Stevenson against Kov since those fights didn't happen for the same reasons. In reality you give floyd too much credit. Your biased for one. Two, if Ali did it or sufar ray did it they would get shht for it. Andwer the question. Floy dc in reality played games and avoided paul williams winky forrest margarito . Oscar haf bigger fish to fry as well ad shane. He tried to fight cotto like canelo while green. Cant just blame manny floyd is 50 percent responsible. Any fan that thinks thatbtheir fighter is always in the 100 is biased .. plain and simple. you have never gone against a floyd decision or comment or contradiction. He is overated to most real fans due to cherry picking has beens and ling up overhyped fighters and fooling casuals.

Floyd wouldn't have fought Ross Purrity because he has too high a KO %? Sorry, wait.....fell off my chair laughing. First, and this is just a few quick examples, explain Corrales? P4P one of the hardest SFW punchers in the sport and this entire era. What about N'Dou who was an actual ranked, proper fighter with a near 100% KO ratio at 31-1 with 30 KOs? What about Maidana who has been one of the hardest punchers P4P in the sport for a decade and has 31 out of 34 KO's? Gerena, about a 80-90% KO ratio at 34-2 with about 30 KOs. Castillo, with 57 KOs in 66 fights. Marquez, 40 KO's in 50 fights. Cotto, 33 in 40 fights. Canelo 33 in 42 fights. Shall we mention Pac too? What about Mosley, long considered one of the hardest punchers in the sport and was the only guy to ever utterly annihilate, drop and stop the iron chinned Margarito right before fighting Floyd? Not only did Floyd fight and beat them all, he did it without getting knocked down once. All championship caliber, world class top ranked opponents, most of them bigger and weighing significantly more. Now, you bring up some ****ing bum with a 50% KO ratio that has lost nearly as many fights as he's won at a shocking record of 30-20-5, never made it past club fighter bum status who decked Wlad numerous times before stopping him? Wlad, who outsizes every fighter he faces by a freaking mile and dwarfs most of the division, getting decked and stopped by complpete bums! :lol1: A guy that has a meagre, weak 50% KO, is an out of shape shelf stacker and gets beaten nearly as much as he wins against basically the lowest level the sport has to offer? You're comparing the guy that embarrassingly, humiliatingly, hilariously KTFO out of a supposed ATG, much, much, much bigger Wlad to all those above as being better and someone Floyd would be scared to fight? The same Wlad that has been stopped numerous times by other low level fighters and has been knocked down 12 times in his career and can't win a fight without holding, wrestling, clinching, hugging, cheating, humping and basically just being a massive grab ass *** for 12 rounds in hometown reffing? Hey, if Floyd holds, at least it's got a purpose and is either setting up offence or creating defense and hardly ever happens despite the ridiculous misconception created by Pac ****. I remember watching a fight where Wlad, at the very start of the first bell ran across the ring and instead of throwing a hayemaker against some bum, just clinched the guy and held on for dear life. I think it scared the opponent so much he just gave up to get the **** out of there. I think a better fighter to compare Purrity to on Floyd's record is someone like Louie Leija. 21-15, 45% KO record. Instead of knocking out a china chinned, flailing ****** who still hadn't learned not to panic and look like bambi on ice when anyone threw a punch at him, despite being a three year pro with nearly 30 fights, he faced Floyd, who had less than ten fights in only about 6 months, while Leija had over 20 as a five year veteran pro, and got dominated and KTFO in two rounds. That's what real champs do to the Ross Purrity's. Instead of the veteran, hard hitting pro Leija KTFO out of a green, completely inexperienced Mayweather he got his ass kicked and KTFO himself. Purrity on the other hand, was smaller, slower, weaker, just ****ing ****e and only a little more experienced and still KTFO of Wlad. ;) Mark Jackson read this and said," You know the drill-hand down, man down."

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Have mercy guys. No one can withstand this amount of pwnage.

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Note for future thread starters. You should always avoid resorting to calling opponents of your initial post "cum guzzlers" in the 20th post of the thread. You either wanna go straight angry troll/hater from the first post or you actually wanna get a solid 2+ pages in before you show your true colors. Anything else shows a weak disposition or a poorly construction argument that you can be broken down to everyone against you being "cum guzzlers" after so lil debating. Let's be honest, Red Cyclone isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer is he? I very much doubt he thought through what was going to happen when the idea of this thread popped in his head. Unless he's pretending to be retarded for whatever reason.

Please stay on topic and stop being so salty. Floyd was boxing's boogeyman before the De La Hoya fight; folks only started calling for a fight with Floyd once the De La Hoya money and Hatton money showed him to be the sport's new "money man". ignore the reality if you want.

It makes me laugh when people say Floyd is a fraud. He's been in the top 10 P4P since 1998, and is a five weight world champion. It's not Floyd's fault Oscar was old by the time they fought. Here's the Ring rankings from 1998 to 2006: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1998 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1999 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2000 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2001 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2002 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2003 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2004 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2005 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2006 Notice anything? Oscar was several weight classes above Floyd through most of those years. The only time they could have fought was in 2006 or 2007. No man,STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Facts are not allowed here

It makes me laugh when people say Floyd is a fraud. He's been in the top 10 P4P since 1998, and is a five weight world champion. It's not Floyd's fault Oscar was old by the time they fought. Here's the Ring rankings from 1998 to 2006: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1998 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_1999 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2000 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2001 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2002 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2003 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2004 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2005 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2006 Notice anything? Oscar was several weight classes above Floyd through most of those years. The only time they could have fought was in 2006 or 2007.

After the Berto fight it will be 24 fights against former/current major world champions through 5 divisions with 12 in a row being a current world title holder from Judah through Pacquiao (Guerrero was an interim champ and Maidana a rematch), in 49 undefeated professional fights. Apparently Mayweather is cherry picking champions. The Mayweather hate is strong. Please let all of us know when another boxer accomplishes what Mayweather has in the 17 years he has been Top 10 P4P and 7 years as the #1 P4P boxer in the world. Currently Mayweather has victories over the 3 highest rated boxers in 3 divisions: Welterweight, Jr Middleweight and Middleweight.......#1 147 contender Pac, #1 Jr Middleweight contender Canelo and Lineal Middleweight champion Cotto Just for some perspective.....Triple G has faced 2 former/current major world champions in his 33 fights and Ward has faced 5 former/current major world champions in his 28 fights. Don't have to like Mayweather but give credit where it's due. ^^^^^^^^= ETHER =^^^^^^^:nutkick:

Floyd wouldn't have fought Ross Purrity because he has too high a KO %? Sorry, wait.....fell off my chair laughing. First, and this is just a few quick examples, explain Corrales? P4P one of the hardest SFW punchers in the sport and this entire era. What about N'Dou who was an actual ranked, proper fighter with a near 100% KO ratio at 31-1 with 30 KOs? What about Maidana who has been one of the hardest punchers P4P in the sport for a decade and has 31 out of 34 KO's? Gerena, about a 80-90% KO ratio at 34-2 with about 30 KOs. Castillo, with 57 KOs in 66 fights. Marquez, 40 KO's in 50 fights. Cotto, 33 in 40 fights. Canelo 33 in 42 fights. Shall we mention Pac too? What about Mosley, long considered one of the hardest punchers in the sport and was the only guy to ever utterly annihilate, drop and stop the iron chinned Margarito right before fighting Floyd? Not only did Floyd fight and beat them all, he did it without getting knocked down once. All championship caliber, world class top ranked opponents, most of them bigger and weighing significantly more. Now, you bring up some ****ing bum with a 50% KO ratio that has lost nearly as many fights as he's won at a shocking record of 30-20-5, never made it past club fighter bum status who decked Wlad numerous times before stopping him? Wlad, who outsizes every fighter he faces by a freaking mile and dwarfs most of the division, getting decked and stopped by complpete bums! :lol1: A guy that has a meagre, weak 50% KO, is an out of shape shelf stacker and gets beaten nearly as much as he wins against basically the lowest level the sport has to offer? You're comparing the guy that embarrassingly, humiliatingly, hilariously KTFO out of a supposed ATG, much, much, much bigger Wlad to all those above as being better and someone Floyd would be scared to fight? The same Wlad that has been stopped numerous times by other low level fighters and has been knocked down 12 times in his career and can't win a fight without holding, wrestling, clinching, hugging, cheating, humping and basically just being a massive grab ass *** for 12 rounds in hometown reffing? Hey, if Floyd holds, at least it's got a purpose and is either setting up offence or creating defense and hardly ever happens despite the ridiculous misconception created by Pac ****. I remember watching a fight where Wlad, at the very start of the first bell ran across the ring and instead of throwing a hayemaker against some bum, just clinched the guy and held on for dear life. I think it scared the opponent so much he just gave up to get the **** out of there. I think a better fighter to compare Purrity to on Floyd's record is someone like Louie Leija. 21-15, 45% KO record. Instead of knocking out a china chinned, flailing ****** who still hadn't learned not to panic and look like bambi on ice when anyone threw a punch at him, despite being a three year pro with nearly 30 fights, he faced Floyd, who had less than ten fights, while Leija had over 20, and got dominated and KTFO in two rounds. That's what real champs do to the Ross Purrity's. ;) http://i.imgur.com/8Zu1muA.gif

Floyd wouldn't have fought Ross Purrity because he has too high a KO %? Sorry, wait.....fell off my chair laughing. First, and this is just a few quick examples, explain Corrales? P4P one of the hardest SFW punchers in the sport and this entire era. What about N'Dou who was an actual ranked, proper fighter with a near 100% KO ratio at 31-1 with 30 KOs? What about Maidana who has been one of the hardest punchers P4P in the sport for a decade and has 31 out of 34 KO's? Gerena, about a 80-90% KO ratio at 34-2 with about 30 KOs. Castillo, with 57 KOs in 66 fights. Marquez, 40 KO's in 50 fights. Cotto, 33 in 40 fights. Canelo 33 in 42 fights. Shall we mention Pac too? What about Mosley, long considered one of the hardest punchers in the sport and was the only guy to ever utterly annihilate, drop and stop the iron chinned Margarito right before fighting Floyd? Not only did Floyd fight and beat them all, he did it without getting knocked down once. All championship caliber, world class top ranked opponents, most of them bigger and weighing significantly more. Now, you bring up some ****ing bum with a 50% KO ratio that has lost nearly as many fights as he's won at a shocking record of 30-20-5, never made it past club fighter bum status who decked Wlad numerous times before stopping him? Wlad, who outsizes every fighter he faces by a freaking mile and dwarfs most of the division, getting decked and stopped by complpete bums! :lol1: A guy that has a meagre, weak 50% KO, is an out of shape shelf stacker and gets beaten nearly as much as he wins against basically the lowest level the sport has to offer? You're comparing the guy that embarrassingly, humiliatingly, hilariously KTFO out of a supposed ATG, much, much, much bigger Wlad to all those above as being better and someone Floyd would be scared to fight? The same Wlad that has been stopped numerous times by other low level fighters and has been knocked down 12 times in his career and can't win a fight without holding, wrestling, clinching, hugging, cheating, humping and basically just being a massive grab ass *** for 12 rounds in hometown reffing? Hey, if Floyd holds, at least it's got a purpose and is either setting up offence or creating defense and hardly ever happens despite the ridiculous misconception created by Pac ****. I remember watching a fight where Wlad, at the very start of the first bell ran across the ring and instead of throwing a hayemaker against some bum, just clinched the guy and held on for dear life. I think it scared the opponent so much he just gave up to get the **** out of there. I think a better fighter to compare Purrity to on Floyd's record is someone like Louie Leija. 21-15, 45% KO record. Instead of knocking out a china chinned, flailing ****** who still hadn't learned not to panic and look like bambi on ice when anyone threw a punch at him, despite being a three year pro with nearly 30 fights, he faced Floyd, who had less than ten fights, while Leija had over 20, and got dominated and KTFO in two rounds. That's what real champs do to the Ross Purrity's. ;) Total destruction. And that my friends, is how you destroy a troll ignoramus.

Dude embarrassed himself in his own thread.