More people watched Ronda Banny Prelim card than PBC on ESPN! LOL

Ignoring for a second the fact that you are obviously a troll, wasn't Jon Jones permanently removed from the UFC? No. Jon has a disease. You can't fire someone for that. Jon will comeback stronger then ever and continue dominating the LHW division.

No Surprise really because UFC>Boxing in America EASILY and UFC is starting to Pull Away and they will really Pull Away once Mayweather is out of the way. That being said, I don't think Haymon and PBC are upset with that Number At All. It just means that both Sports have their fanbase, MMA fanbase is WAY BETTER though because they don't have the Divide like boxing does. Boxing is in the middle of a Civil War between fans, Networks, Promotions, Fighters and everything else and that will likely be Boxing Downfall and it could push more Casual Boxing fans into MMA I can't lie, I love Boxing but MMA is way more Interesting right now and MMA fans actually talk about the SPORT OF MMA and not The Networks, Promoters, TV Deals, Rating Numbers and PPV Buy Numbers. Forget Ratings, go look at Social Media activity. UFC on Youtube, their Press Conference, Weigh In Videos, all that that gets way more views. MMA on the way up and boxing is on the way out! UFC numbers have actually been going down since their big boom. other than ronda, they don't have that many big draws. brock was their biggest and he left for WWE. if UFC can't find competition for Ronda soon, I expect her to bolt to WWE when she is bored. UFC is dead after Ronda Rousey.

It was just a terrible night of boxing, on paper and in actuality.

UFC 190 FOX Sports 1 "Prelims" (8 p.m. ET) purses: 170 lbs.: Neil Magny $30,000 vs. Demian Maia : $222,000 205 lbs.: Rafael Cavalcante $40,000 vs. Patrick Cummins $33,000 170 lbs.: Warlley Alves $32,500 vs. Nordine Taleb $16,500 135 lbs.: Iuri Alcantara $54,000 vs. Leandro Issa: $14,500 For 300K more viewers. That's all they're getting paid??? I like how some are against monopolizing boxing... but love the way Dana White has monopolized MMA.

Finding which channel the PBC card is on is a task in itself. How so??? :thinking:

Still looks like it did better rating then Kovalev / Mohammedi, Which everyone last week was cheering as great numbers to be fair, you are comparing a card on Free TV v.s. a card on a premium cable channel that you have to pay for. it should be a better rating by basic fact that its more available. my biggest beef with PBC is that it just seems very low energy. the whole production of the show feels low budget. like, something is missing. doesn't feel like a typical boxing show. its a shame a war like mares vs santa cruz has to be held under the PBC model

Who cares????

Not surprising, Ronda has the juice now. She's the biggest thing in UFC. I would have to be a top tier male in UFC and everyone is paying attention to some hot chick who only fights for one minute tops. This is actually a loss for UFC in the long run. You can guarantee she won't be at this level next year. No hate for her, I like her. But she's peaked.

UFC is doing a good job generating hype for a can crusher.

UFC 190 Prelims on FS1: 1.322M viewers from 8-10p. PBC on ESPN: 1.073M from 9-10:57p— Sports TV Ratings (@SportsTVRatings) August 4, 2015 Next big thing huh.... Dear god... Haymon doesn't know what he's doing...just oversaturating the market and screwing everybody over The UFC prelims outdid Garcia/Malignaggi. Its surprising to see this being celebrated on NSB. The TS claims Haymon is screwing everyone over by putting on a card that had 1.1 million viewers in primetime. The TS says that too much boxing on TV is "oversaturating the market". Would you have rather this card not been on ESPN on Saturday?

1.322M UFC..... 1.073 ESPN..... What was the average viewership for ESPN before PBC got there? :thinking:

UFC 190 FOX Sports 1 "Prelims" (8 p.m. ET) purses: 170 lbs.: Neil Magny $30,000 vs. Demian Maia : $222,000 205 lbs.: Rafael Cavalcante $40,000 vs. Patrick Cummins $33,000 170 lbs.: Warlley Alves $32,500 vs. Nordine Taleb $16,500 135 lbs.: Iuri Alcantara $54,000 vs. Leandro Issa: $14,500 For 300K more viewers. Me personally... I recognize the Magny/Maia fight and I think Iuri Alcantara... or maybe his brother.... I don't know Ignoring for a second the fact that you are obviously a troll, wasn't Jon Jones permanently removed from the UFC? He's in rehab...or jail... or something. He did miraculously beat cocaine addiction in a a day though

No Surprise really because UFC>Boxing in America EASILY and UFC is starting to Pull Away and they will really Pull Away once Mayweather is out of the way. That being said, I don't think Haymon and PBC are upset with that Number At All. It just means that both Sports have their fanbase, MMA fanbase is WAY BETTER though because they don't have the Divide like boxing does. Boxing is in the middle of a Civil War between fans, Networks, Promotions, Fighters and everything else and that will likely be Boxing Downfall and it could push more Casual Boxing fans into MMA I can't lie, I love Boxing but MMA is way more Interesting right now and MMA fans actually talk about the SPORT OF MMA and not The Networks, Promoters, TV Deals, Rating Numbers and PPV Buy Numbers. Forget Ratings, go look at Social Media activity. UFC on Youtube, their Press Conference, Weigh In Videos, all that that gets way more views. MMA on the way up and boxing is on the way out!

I'm not going to compare apples and bananas. Each has its own respective audience. Boxing is boxing. MMA is MMA. There's just too many variables in MMA that could send any fighter to sleep, a simple kick on the skull, a leg lock, arm lock, you name it.

MMA is growing and boxing is dying. Once TBE retires who do we have left? I love boxing but those are the facts. MMA has all the combat sports stars Dana White Ronda Conor Jon Jones Chris Wideman Tj Killashaw Mighty Mouse Irish Joe Duffy I could go on all day. Who are the boxing stars of tomorrow? Ignoring for a second the fact that you are obviously a troll, wasn't Jon Jones permanently removed from the UFC?

wow that sucks. chalk up a loss for boxing. danny garcia just isn't a draw. maybe if it was a better fight, i dont know. still, its not like nobody watched. surprised a million tuned in to watch that sparring match.

UFC 190 FOX Sports 1 "Prelims" (8 p.m. ET) purses: 170 lbs.: Neil Magny $30,000 vs. Demian Maia : $222,000 205 lbs.: Rafael Cavalcante $40,000 vs. Patrick Cummins $33,000 170 lbs.: Warlley Alves $32,500 vs. Nordine Taleb $16,500 135 lbs.: Iuri Alcantara $54,000 vs. Leandro Issa: $14,500 For 300K more viewers.

Still looks like it did better rating then Kovalev / Mohammedi, Which everyone last week was cheering as great numbers

Garcia vs Malignaggi was way more competitive on paper than anybody not named Cyborg vs Rousey. Again... this is the fucking prelims.... the free prelims did this, not the Rousey main event... the freaking prelims! This tells you how terrible it did, people don't watch prelims and yet it still beat pbc.

Prelims..wow, they're the fights that aren't even good enough to get on the undercard. Thanks Al.