Of course the masses came out and said disbelieve any reason given about why they dislike Al Haymon and his boxing ventures.
It's the same reasoning with people who say they don't like GGG or Wlad because of their "stiff style" yet they also find every reason in the book to dislike Lomachenko, Calzaghe, and others.
Why can't people just accept that some people really don't like Al Haymon? I mean who in their right minds would blow the guy just because there is sub-quality boxing on free TV? Who?
This whole issue is the height of narcissism. The guy is a snake like all promoters. Since when is a promoter anything but a villain and a necessary evil?
He is making great efforts to make boxing more visible on free tv, but he is also engaging in some shady power plays while trying to establish a monopoly. He is implicated in underhanded competitive ploys against fighters not in his stable. He has also taken fights between his stable and HBO/Golden Boy fighters off the table for the time being.
For those that like what he is doing now, he is operating at a loss to gain market share. How do you think he will be once his share of the market has stabilized and he focuses on bleeding it dry? It may seem like it now, but boxing is not a charity for Haymon.
While there are valid criticisms of the murkiness of Haymon's role is as well as the PBC model, the problem is most of the people arguing it are just butthurt fanboys. This causes the legitimate concerns people raise regarding their aggressive business model to get drowned out by a cacophony of stupid.
There could actually be good discussion fostered if the basic equation of any PBC debate on here weren't simply:
Manny = Arum = Wild Card = Cleto Reyes gloves = all have to be exalted as the best because muh brave Manny. With Floyd being the opposite side of that coin.
This^^^^^^^^^^^
While there are valid criticisms of the murkiness of Haymon's role is as well as the PBC model, the problem is most of the people arguing it are just butthurt fanboys. This causes the legitimate concerns people raise regarding their aggressive business model to get drowned out by a cacophony of stupid.
There could actually be good discussion fostered if the basic equation of any PBC debate on here weren't simply:
Manny = Arum = Wild Card = Cleto Reyes gloves = all have to be exalted as the best because muh brave Manny. With Floyd being the opposite side of that coin.
You PAID for PBC tickets? DAMN! PT Barnum was right! One is born every minute.
Mares vs Santa Cruz is a fight I want to see in person, at Staples. Sorry that I actually have money to spend on being at a fight. Not really though. When I have a chance to be at potential classic fights, I do. Just like when I was in the house for Vazquez and Marquez I & 3. Some of us, don't care who the promoter is.
I hate Haymon so much, I just bought 4 tickets to a PBC card. "But you're racist doe".
You PAID for PBC tickets? DAMN! PT Barnum was right! One is born every minute.
But what promoter is loved by the fans? Arum is a snake, Oscar is a cross dresser, Don King is a criminal, Tex Richard was a sleazeball ect. ect. ect.
Stop being so damn sensitive you bunch of drama queens
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I have made the mistake of putting every poster in the same box when it comes to Haymon. Too often I judge posters comments based on something else I read. Like death Adder could really have a legit problem with haymon, but I wouldn't believe it given what he has posted. Same with Freedom, Weltschmerz, Elroy1 and some others.
Not every poster that raises issues dislikes him because he is black. But NSB is filled with posters that hate him because he is black and try to mask it with other BS reasons.
It is very difficult to tell the difference at times. when you read Divine Hammer, Guerrero's Dad and some others talking about "hating monopolies" but wanting to go back to "boxing only being on HBO", its not hard to tell what their true motivation is.
I will just try to make sure I don't lump everyone into the same box. That doesn't mean I will not call someone out if I think their reasoning is an attempt to mask their true feelings.
Of course the masses came out and said disbelieve any reason given about why they dislike Al Haymon and his boxing ventures.
It's the same reasoning with people who say they don't like GGG or Wlad because of their "stiff style" yet they also find every reason in the book to dislike Lomachenko, Calzaghe, and others.
Why can't people just accept that some people really don't like Al Haymon? I mean who in their right minds would blow the guy just because there is sub-quality boxing on free TV? Who?
-Bob Arum has done worse to actual fighters and competitors than anything that Haymon has even been accused of, yet folks seem fine with that.
-Haymon was getting criticism for not facing his guys off against each, yet the moment that he starts putting his guys against each, the criticism begins that he's not letting his fighters fight anyone else.
People see the lack of consistency in reaction, in terms of Haymon vs the field, and the arguments that the criticism is fair don't make sense. When nonsensical arguments are made, to trash a man who happens to be African American, people put two and two together.
What sub-quality fights has Haymon put on TV, knowing what's been put on and marketed as good by HBO?
But what promoter is loved by the fans? Arum is a snake, Oscar is a cross dresser, Don King is a criminal, Tex Richard was a sleazeball ect. ect. ect.
Stop being so damn sensitive you bunch of drama queens
All you have to do it not watch it PBC. You can go back to your 10 fights per year on HBO or Showtime. That's still there for you dumbass.
you sound mad
... and poor