Floyd Mayweather ATG status

About 21-25 sounds realistic.

Top 5 to 15 for me, and I am dead serious about it. In boxing, like all other sports, defensive guys are rated way too low in the atg lists. To me FLoyd is in the top 5 for the best defense of all time with guys like Pep, Benitez and Whitaker, he's undefeated in more thant 20 championship fights. He defeated the other best fighter of his era (Pacquiao), he has defeated three good undefeated fighters (Alvarez, Corrales and Hatton), he is a 5 weight class champion. So why does the best offensive fighters all automatically go in the top 20 but the best defensive fighters are getting bashed ? People have always fall in love for kos. A guy like DUran can lose pretty much all the important fights of his career, quit in the middle of his biggest fight, but people will automatically put in top 10 cause he was an offensive genius...

Top 20 because of his era. Best of his era though.

In between 20-30

Ahead of Pacquiao, where is that? Who the **** cares. :fing26: lol I'd have to imagine they're both top 50 (at least) but that's a separate topic from this thread I put top 20 but it's debatable sounds like most people would have him 15-30. Too bad I didn't make more granular choices amongst the top 50 where there are a bunch of votes.

So with the voting I guess its safe to say hes right around the 20th spot give or take one or two either way. I think that is very accurate spot for him and that is a great spot in history to be in. I agree this is right around where I think he belongs. But honestly I've never taken the time to make an all-time p4p list so this is just where I feel he should be.

A clear draw? :rofl: :lol1: :lol1:

Had to pick the last one. As many people know, I'm one of the most unbiased posters on this site so I like to keep it real and honest. To me, he is not even TOP 500/1,000 of all time, let alone 100. TOP 100 Boxing Business Men... sure. THE BIGGEST WINS in his resume WERE ALL past their prime: DLH, Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto, Gatti... He purposely avoided them during their PRIME. It's a pattern that's EASY to see. Then he deceives by fighting mediocre fighters like Ortiz during their prime, and boxing fans are some of the most easily manipulated population on planet earth due to lack education/IQ. THOSE HE DID fight while young like Canelo or Maidana, he drained or handicapped with sparring gloves. Seriously, is it that hard to see that his career is fraudulent? You really have to be an extremely dumb person like HanzGruber to not realize what he did. EVEN Floyd himself says, "I was smart outside the ring, played it like a game of chess". And props to him for being smart about it even though it was extremely cowardly, so he will never be respected as a boxer. He will get props as a business man though and that's fine.

Top 5 - runner/ducker Top 10 - hugger Top 20 - potshoter Top 50 - defense Top 100 - maybe fighter

i clicked i'm a stan one lol :lol1: :lol1:

Top 30....

he is the most skilled fighter of all time period. no one can match his boxing iq and no one has beaten all of their opponents as convincingly as he has. at least top 10

Ah dam are the votes not public? Wanted to see who was voting Top 5 and not saying anything about it

Top 30 to 35 Way to many misses and stipulations. And I think castillo won fight 1 and at worst got a draw. I had maidana 1 a clear draw.

Top 20-30 probably. Boxing has the richest history of any sport so that's still amazing.

hes right around #30 or so.

Top 20-25.