Has Ward done enough yet, for a place in Half Of Fame. Olympic Gold Medalist, Super six winner, SMW champ. Best wins Kessler, Froch, Abraham, and Dawson.
Reason on why HOF?
Reason Why not?
Arturo Gatti may not have been an elite fighter but he did compete in 5 Fight Of The Year, a Two division champ.
Those alone are not hall of credentials. At all.
Absolutely! Ward probably already no worse than #2 as the greatest Super Middleweight of all time only behind Calzaghe and he is only 31 and with that 2 years layoff he is a young and rested 31 who haven't taken any punishment so by the time he is done he will go down as the greatest Super Middleweight Ever.
He has so many chapters to add to his career, he is really just getting started so lets see how he finishes out.
omg.... undefeated records are so overrated in this forum... bum calzaghe
best smw of all time? gtfoh. Whos ward anyways? He is as irrelevant
sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. Carl Froch is far more valuable to the sport of Boxing than the unmarketable Andre Ward.
77,000 British fans bought tickets to see Carl Froch knockout Groves in his last fight, how many people paid to see Andre Ward? He's contributed NOTHING to this sport.
You do not get into the HOF because you can sell tickets to ONE big fight. Froch does not belong any more than Ward does.
Yes he's a hall of famer. IF he retired now he would get in. Just look at his accomplishments. He's an Olympic Gold medalist. He's has dominated the super middleweight division the last several years and he has dominated all his fights. He hasn't lost a fight since he was a teenager, dating back to his younger amateur days. But his professional career has been great. He started his career a little slow but once he entered the Super 8 tournament, he blew through it and won all his fights. Since then he has dominated all his fights. Say what you want but he is a hall of famer right now. His professional run has been great.
You really DKSAB to you? Do you even follow the sport? Ward has done absolutely nothing in boxing the last few years. Fighting three times in 4 years is hardly dominating his division.
And once again... it was the SUPER SIX tournament, not SUPER EIGHT.
Now just go away. :nutkick:
No. IMO he'd have to have defended his multiple world titles he held multiple times, dominating the opposition. Then moving up to 175lbs and winning world titles there would seal it for me.
Well he could get into the HOF without going up to 175lbs if he defended his 168lbs titles on 13-15 occasions, but Ward is going up to 175lbs at some time in his career anyway.
I think he should win a few more big fights before that but he is close to HOF. But it's senseless to ask a question like this here. Ward is a widely hated fighter here from some reasons and most of these guys would say that he isn't HOF member even if he would beat up Wlad and unify all the hw titles...
Considered? Absolutely, his resume is already much better than somebody like Gatti.
He's nowhere near a lock though.
People need to stop bringing up Gatti. He was a one off.
If you don't think he is a hall of famer right now, then why don't you ask one of experts who vote on it. Ask Thomas Hauser, Kevin Iole or go to the Boxing Writers Association of America website and ask their experts. Most of the writers their have a vote on who gets in and I can assure you 90% will say he gets in right now.
:lol1: Are you just name dropping for the hell of it? Or do you know them personnaly?
By no means is he a lock at this point. Thats if he retired today. With that said he is well on his way and im sure will find himself in the HOF
Bute and Groves 2 were the most important fights of his career by a mile, literally nobody cares about that silly tournament from 5-6 years ago where Ward avoided leaving the US at all costs because he needed his special referee to let him get off with headbutting and grabbing his more talented and exciting opponents.
Ward won the tournament, a gold medal and a world title, yet still can't sell out a bingo hall in his home town, so what does that tell you?
full troll, guys. congrats. we broke his spirit.
sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. Carl Froch is far more valuable to the sport of Boxing than the unmarketable Andre Ward.
77,000 British fans bought tickets to see Carl Froch knockout Groves in his last fight, how many people paid to see Andre Ward? He's contributed NOTHING to this sport.
I remember when it was "**** ppv sales and buys, why he ducking him doe" around boxingscene. Now tv ratings and ppv sales are the most used argument on the forums. I know why too.. It's because the other side finally realize their fighter's are not going to look good against certain fighters and are scared for them to lose.
If Ward Doesn't belong neither does Froch!!! Period....
PPV buys? Are you serious?
that's the manifestation of british inferiority on bscene. that's what it looks like.
these are the lengths they go to defend their heroes. when our fighters just aren't that good, we admit it.
froch just isn't that good. to think that americans would support him the way brits support him is laughable. we have better boxers in every era.
he's one of the best british boxers of the last 25 years. really. they're that pathetic.
Obviously, go compare their records, the ticket sales, ppv buys
Froch has done a million times more for the sport of Boxing than Andre "bum of the month club" Ward.
:lol1: at the bold. it's just too much.
as for their resumes, let's look first at the the two biggest fights of froch's career. the two biggest fights of froch's career are ward and kessler 1, both of which were losses. his fight with ward wasn't even close, and proved they weren't in the same class.
LOL. That coward is nowhere near being in the hall of fame. Who has he beat? The Super Six Euro Bums? And some American journeymen? Seriously, that tournament is the most overrated boxing event in history.
CoWard hasnt done ****. And he is still avoiding TGE hard.
Gennady wants ALL THE TOP NAMES, NOW. Not in future, NOW. But they are all ducking TGE and somehow its Gennadys fault lol.
This Guy has to be on drugs... hard drugs.
As a Bum-Love-Kin (LOL whoever came up with this is an immature genius) fan you should not have any negative comments towards Ward at all. Not only will Ward absolutely destroy GGG but his resume is 10x better. Ward actually deserves his spot on the p4p list and he isn't a total goofball when it comes to selling himself to the masses like GGG. GGG also avoided Ward, Lara, and now he's avoiding Bradley. Bum-love-kin... LOL
Obviously, go compare their records, the ticket sales, ppv buys
Froch has done a million times more for the sport of Boxing than Andre "bum of the month club" Ward.
If Ward Doesn't belong neither does Froch!!! Period....
PPV buys? Are you serious?