If Alvarez beats Cotto, the Golovkin fight seems logical... if De La Hoya allows it. Even if he loses, Cotto might still duck Golovkin and go the Mayweather II route. So what other fights are out there for Alvarez? I think he's getting a decent resumé going, having fought all the names demanded of him (Trout, Mayweather, Lara) and taken some scalps to keep busy (Angulo, Kirkland).
The only one I can think of is Lara II, just because of the closeness of the first fight, but nobody wants to see that again.
The problem there is that Canelo doesn't do 160, only 155. Maybe he'll fight Geale and get him to drain himself all the way down to 155. At this point, Geale will probably do anything for a buck.
like canelo has drained other fighters before...
Fetta my man, that's not right. canelo needs a quality opponent at MW that actually makes him work so he can keep getting better and actually be ready for a GGG level opponent.
Fighting another easy guy or a blown up WW/JWW, hasn't Canelo had enough of those types of opponents?
lemieux/ndam winner, = MW champ , and martin murray is a top 10 mw easily.....
or should he fight someone like eric molina?
LMAO! Canelo is NOT fighting GGG fight after next.
Maybe in 4 or 5 years, if GGG shows his age, they will consider it. Otherwise, forget that fight.
Good chance Canelo isn't even fighting Cotto next. Floyd Cotto is an extremely real possibility.
Hospital...more than likely he will make a pitstop at the hospital to visit kneeguel to make sure everything is ok with him as he is laying down on the stretcher they brought him in
Canelo will either keep the middleweight title if he wins it and fight GGG at the proper 160 or he will give up the title and return to 154 and yes have his NON TITLE fights at 155. He won't play BS games with the world middleweight title. Cotto will never fight GGG and anyone who thinks he will fight GGG is dreaming and should wake up from that dream. Oscar is Canelo's promoter but not his manager. He can advise Canelo but he can't let or not let Canelo fight somebody. Canelo and his team have the final say on who he fights.
He is actually in a very tough spot because he doesn't have many dance Partners at 154 because most of the other top guys at 154 are with Al Haymon so those fights are not likely. At 160, it is nothing in that Division besides GGG and with Oscar talking about GGG in "2 Years" I don't know who the hell he is going to fight Win or Lose after the Cotto Fight. I think they would love to try and build up Canelo vs Lemiuex. So if Lemiuex wins Saturday maybe you take a chance and throw him in with GGG and hope he wins :dunno:
If Canelo doesn't want a high risk opponent after Cotto he could fight Gabe Rosado. Gabe would make 154 for the money & he's literally never in a bad/boring/non exciting bout even when he's losing.
I always thought that if somehow, rosado were to beat Lemieux, he was going to get a shot a canelo. At which point, both guys were going to be opponents for canelo. I think rosado is out of the lottery
The topic is what is next for Canelo-who Floyd fought years ago has nothing to do with the thread topic, unless of course you said Floyd is next.
If Canelo fought a ghost or JMM level opponent, lets say ndam/lemuix winner or some other names floated here, I wouldn't complain.
Gabe Rosado isn't winning fights, isn't a world class fighter, and is given fights on HBO solely because he will lose in violent fashion, most likely by KO. He definitely shouldn't be getting a fight with Canelo over some other guys.
I would think you'd agree.
What an active elite fighter did a few years ago has nothing to do with this topic & that should;nt be used as precedent here for a very young fighter who is likely to play a major role in carrying the sport after Floyd Manny are done? In addition to that you'd be ok with Canelo fighting a good small guy from a lower weight like Floyd did with Marquez? Strange turn of events here. Where do you even come up with this stuff?
You already received my answer to if I'd agree/not agree/which matchups I'd prefer a few times before.
I'm all for the best match-ups being made. But I;ll join you in your delusions of being a real boxing fan & pretend Guerrero, Marquez (who fought at a lower weight before Floyd) & a few other guys Floyd fought has no bearing on this. I guess you have to be an elite fighter to do that.
The topic is what is next for Canelo-who Floyd fought years ago has nothing to do with the thread topic, unless of course you said Floyd is next.
If Canelo fought a ghost or JMM level opponent, lets say ndam/lemuix winner or some other names floated here, I wouldn't complain.
Gabe Rosado isn't winning fights, isn't a world class fighter, and is given fights on HBO solely because he will lose in violent fashion, most likely by KO. He definitely shouldn't be getting a fight with Canelo over some other guys.
I would think you'd agree.
ghost/Floyd has no bearing on this.
I just can't believe anyone would think Gabe Rosado is an acceptable opponent for Canelo should he beat Cotto. I get we all want fighters we like to win, but that would be a pathetic mismatch that I would think everyone would be against.
I'm all for the best match-ups being made. But I;ll join you in your delusions of being a real boxing fan & pretend Guerrero, Marquez (who fought at a lower weight before Floyd) & a few other guys Floyd fought has no bearing on this. I guess you have to be an elite fighter to do that.
Demetrius Andrade would like to say hi.
I'd like that fight!
I hope Canelo knocks Cotto out, that'll be his coming out party! And then Golovkin!! And I think Nelo gets stopped by GGG, but his stock will still rise I think. Nelo vs GGG is competitive and I think people will fall in love with both fighters during that one.
I then hope he stays at 160 and GGG moves up.
GGG and Alvarez's best most popular paths are highly visible and I think most of us on here could roughly agree on what direction we'd like to see them both go.
Never misrepresented anything. Gabe Rosado hasn't earned the right to fight Canelo on HBO? Let's pretend Guerrero earned the right to dance with Floyd on PPV after beating Berto (quality opponent my azz). Worse things have happened & can happen where the outcome had been obvious in the careers of better fighters than Canelo.
I already answered your question to which I'd rather watch, see my previous reply again.
ghost/Floyd has no bearing on this.
I just can't believe anyone would think Gabe Rosado is an acceptable opponent for Canelo should he beat Cotto. I get we all want fighters we like to win, but that would be a pathetic mismatch that I would think everyone would be against.
I like Andrade. A lot. He's a great talent but what's he been up to?
We'd probably see Canelo vs GGG 5 de Mayo at a catch weight of like 157 or 8. If he loses or wins, we'd likely see him in vs Cotto for Sept if the fight was great and the winner would get dibs at GGG again. Or if he got even past GGG depending on how fan friendly that was a rematch. There's also Lemiux and GGG could fight on that undercard vs Chavez Jr. A lot can happen once those sep and may dates are freed by Floyd. If Cotto losses emphatically I dont see him fighting more than 3 times before he (deservedly so) calls it quits on an exciting career.
If anything, I see it more likely Cotto fights Andrade if he loses than with Canelo. Lara isnt getting a rematch ever with Canelo unless he makes enough noise.
Or maybe Cotto would fight Quillin or Lee.
Last I heard of Andrade was when he said that he was considering a move to Al Haymon a few months back, not sure if the deal has been done. Haymon wont put Andrade up for Canelo right now, it's been over a year since Andrade fought. He'll be showcased on PBC first & then I'm guessing he'll be up for Canelo just like Lara. At the same time I'm not sure if Oscar would approve of Andrade if he looks good like Lara.
Why are you misrepresenting what I asked you? Gabe Rosado has not earned the right to fight a Canelo on HBO. He can't win and you know it. You saying he is "game" really means he will take a beating and isn't a threat. Why would you want to watch that guy?
I never asked he fight the best available did I? I asked you why you wouldn't want to see him test himself with a quality opponent rather than a mismatch?
Never misrepresented anything. Gabe Rosado hasn't earned the right to fight Canelo on HBO? Let's pretend Guerrero earned the right to dance with Floyd on PPV after beating Berto (quality opponent my azz). Worse things have happened & can happen where the outcome had been obvious in the careers of better fighters than Canelo.
I already answered your question to which I'd rather watch, see my previous reply again.
Canelo/Rosado @154 is garbage tbh. It wouldn't be a good match-up @160 either, but at least it's tolerable. I really hope that Canelo doesn't start draining MWs just because he can't find good fights @LMW. Canelo said he wasn't impressed with MW so he better not drain them.
If N'Dam beats Lemieux, I can see Canelo facing him. I don't see GBP matching up Canelo/Lemieux though, at least not any-time soon.
It;ll be more than tolerable, not many options left for him anyway.