"Hey, Ward, wake up! Why are you talking trash about other people? Speak for yourself,” said Golovkin, 33, who was named the 2013 Ring Fighter of the Year.
“If you're trying to make a name for yourself by mentioning me to build up your own fight, then be a man about it and tell the truth. At our meeting with HBO they asked us whether we are ready to box. You know our answers - I said yes, you said no. You said something about your shoulder or promoter - I'm not interested in the reason, I only heard your ‘no.’ But you remember that HBO said then that they would need a long time to build-up the fight. Then what the f$ck are you talking about excuses?"
"If you do provocative attacks, do not even think that Loeffler will buy into them. You haven't been interesting to anyone for a long time, so he will no longer engage in the promotion of your name. Go and build your own image. Although everyone already knows what you are, and because of this, they do not go to your fights."
"You shouldn't worry about who I'm going to box or have boxed. You, like the rest, were lucky with the Super Six tournament because you got your opponents by contract. And who are you fighting now? The fourth-fifth ranked fighters in England...If I say that I'm ready to box any middleweight and ready to rise to 168 for a big fight, then I am responsible for the words. And I have nothing left to discuss with you. As a man, you are dead to me."
Source: http://www.examiner.com/article/gennady-golovkin-destroys-andre-ward
he's a white power puncher. he's like kelly pavlik with better boxing skills. just imagine how popular he'd get if he won the lineal championship with an exciting knockout of cotto, the way pavlik did with taylor.
and don't you talk crap about our goodboy's english.
Just imagine how popular he'd be if he were a black American? :fing26:
Amazing how significant Golovkin has become despite being a non-english speaker in a quiet division. He must be one of the top 5 mst talked about fighters in the sport at this point.
he's a white power puncher. he's like kelly pavlik with better boxing skills. just imagine how popular he'd get if he won the lineal championship with an exciting knockout of cotto, the way pavlik did with taylor.
and don't you talk crap about our goodboy's english.
it's interesting that you say this. Can you provide a ...
LINK?
i'm not going to waste my time going through each, as they're something you can find yourself; but i'll provide one example with weights for canelo and golovkin.
this site is called boxing news twentyfour. i can't type it out here because the site doesn't allow it. here's a link to an article that states that golovkin was 170 on fight night for a MW fight, and canelo was 174.
http://www.boxi ngne ws24.com/2014/03/canelo-weighed-174-lbs-for-angulo-fight-last-night/
they generally weigh in "unofficially" with some clothes on, but that doesn't make up for how off your numbers are.
professional middleweights can be expected to walk around well over 180 lbs without getting into bad shape. again, these guys are 170 ish lbs in the best shape of their lives on fight night. they do not walk around at those weights.
sometimes, you bsceners need to just stop talking and take notes when some of the more informed boxing people are talking. ray corso, a poster here, and former professional trainer who has worked with many top boxers, has a breakdown of "walking around" weights for pro boxers without a fight scheduled. your weights are nowhere close to his.
you can PM him, if you'd like.
Amazing how significant Golovkin has become despite being a non-english speaker in a quiet division. He must be one of the top 5 mst talked about fighters in the sport at this point.
All the **** talking going on now, plus an impressive win by Ward Saturday certainly helps this fight pick up steam. I also like the idea of these guys doing a co main event, hopefully both look impressive, a bit more **** talking, and maybe we will get the type of interest needed to get these guys in the ring. The problem as of now is two fold. Neither guy, and I stress neither, will do this fight for chump change. As of now they would have to fight for chump change considering the magnitude of the fight.
Both have to do their part to draw interest to the fight. Neither guy is ducking the other. Anyone who actually thinks one guy is somehow scared of the other is just hating.
Best post in this thread , they both feel like this is one of their superfight options because of the actual risk and boxing quality in the fight , but HBO who runs the numbers would no pay the amount they feel they should get for such a big fight (in their mind) , Barcham stated the numbers several times this thread and it is what it is , Andre wont fight for chump change neither will GGG and that seals the deal on the fight.
A loss in today`s boxing is a very big hit unfortunatly and can set you back years. (if it wasnt i would expect more big figthers frequently , but Floyd changed all that when he put the focus on his 0 , which he held with great talent i wont deny , but he did change the boxing world prespective on that matter , for the worse).
Yeah bias knowledge to suit his and your agenda. How surprising you are protecting the black fight wow big stretch there Mr. Queeradelfia
:lol1: Mr. Queeradelfia?!?...that was soft man!!...another feather fist poster throwing punches from weird angles....get with Marg's ex trainer and have him wrap your hands with plaster because your punches are EXTRA lite!! lol
and miss me with that black fighter bs....African Americans have the right to support African American fighters just like every other nationality does....so save that cornball sh't for somebody else....like I said, you're a lite puncher Charles....load up next time man :lol1:
OMG, the excuses! So, Ward only beat top guy after top guy because he was contractually obligated to do so? And poor Genady just can't catch a break, right? How about he do it right now and set up a fight with Ward? The timing is perfect. Couldn't be more perfect. But I suppose you guys will find other reasons.
Don't be afraid to call BS on a fighter you like. I really like Golovkin but I want to see him take real fights and I'm not going to defend his ducking Ward just because I like him.
I'm not making excuses because I'm not the one ****ing fighting. You're talking to me like I'm the promoter. I'm done trying to have discussions with people. You guys are ****ing ridiculous.
Haha -- Ostriches have done well as a species, so they don't seem so stupid.
But don't let facts get in the way:
GGG = 5' 10", walks around at 170
Canelo = 5' 9", walks around at 170
Ward = 6' 1", walks around at god knows what these days. 185?
it's interesting that you say this. Can you provide a ...
LINK?
that's really not fair.
i do think golovkin and his team are avoiding 168 lbs in general, but we have to recognize that cotto, martinez, avoided this guy. lou dibella was extremely candid in talking about why he didn't match martinez and golovkin. there's an interview on the internet, if you care to look for it.
GGG and his team have made it very CLEAR that GGG's primary goal is to unify all the titles at 160 and that they would only move to 168 FOR A MAJOR PPV FIGHT. This has not changed in over two years. It has nothing to so with 'avoiding' 168. GOLOVKIN IS A FVCKING MIDDLEWEIGHT!!!!! You might as well say that he is avoiding 200!
You're a A Special Kinda Stupid Are You? You can't "REMOVE SUPER 6 NAMES FROM HIS RESUME" and try to use that as some type of argument to make GGG as Andre Ward's Equal.
One guy is PROVEN and when active is considered the Consensus #2 P4P Fighter in the World, the other guy is NOT Prove and is running on Hype Fumes Created by HBO and great Promotions by K2. That is not to say GGG is not good, I think GGG is a excellent fighter, hands down the best Middleweight in Boxing today, but GGG fans trying to convince people he is better than Ward is going to be a struggle and rightfully so.
I'm done with you, clearly you're a troll and you just love the attention.
How about Ward gets back in the ring before his fans start proclaiming him a god again? Right now, the bouncer at my local bar has a better fight record for the past 19 months than Ward has.
Yeah... the truth can be painful sometimes.
Haha -- Ostriches have done well as a species, so they don't seem so stupid.
But don't let facts get in the way:
GGG = 5' 10", walks around at 170
Canelo = 5' 9", walks around at 170
Ward = 6' 1", walks around at god knows what these days. 185?[/QUOTE
you don't know what you're talking about. they're all far over those weight swhen they're "walking around."
that's basically f#cking fight night weights, ffs.
You're a A Special Kinda Stupid Are You? You can't "REMOVE SUPER 6 NAMES FROM HIS RESUME" and try to use that as some type of argument to make GGG as Andre Ward's Equal.
One guy is PROVEN and when active is considered the Consensus #2 P4P Fighter in the World, the other guy is NOT Prove and is running on Hype Fumes Created by HBO and great Promotions by K2. That is not to say GGG is not good, I think GGG is a excellent fighter, hands down the best Middleweight in Boxing today, but GGG fans trying to convince people he is better than Ward is going to be a struggle and rightfully so.
I'm done with you, clearly you're a troll and you just love the attention.
as for froch, he's got the great george groves, and the best fighter of all time, lucian bute!
as they do with virtually everything, the little bsceners are drawing lines in the sand and sticking their heads in the section they've designated for themselves.
ostriches are dumb as hell. they're ignorant because they stick their heads in the sand and ignore what is around them. what's around them does not go away!
i hope you guys understand that.
http://www.ostrichheadinsand.com/images/ostrich-head-in-sand.jpg
Haha -- Ostriches have done well as a species, so they don't seem so stupid.
But don't let facts get in the way:
GGG = 5' 10", walks around at 170
Canelo = 5' 9", walks around at 170
Ward = 6' 1", walks around at god knows what these days. 185?
as they do with virtually everything, the little bsceners are drawing lines in the sand and sticking their heads in the section they've designated for themselves.
ostriches are dumb as hell. they're ignorant because they stick their heads in the sand and ignore what is around them. what's around them does not go away!
i hope you guys understand that.
http://www.ostrichheadinsand.com/images/ostrich-head-in-sand.jpg
Lol, speaking of delusional... Whether Genady might do something or not is beyond the point. It's about him actually DOING IT. He has a chance to finally do something and he's ducking. He'll take another weak fight while he waits for the smaller guy in Canelo.
LOL, "smaller". Cut the crap. It's not GGG's fault Canelo goes to the extreme to cut weight.
Let's see:
Canelo vs Kirkland: ?
Canelo vs Lara: 171
Canelo vs Angulo: 174
Canelo vs Mayweather (152 catchweight): 165
Canelo vs Trout: 172
Golovkin vs Monroe: 170
Golovkin vs Murray: ?
Golovkin vs Rubio: 173
Golovkin vs Geale: ?
Golovkin vs Macklin: 170
Golovkin vs Proksa: 168
Keep your biased hate for Golovkin elsewhere. Canelo weighs just about the same, if not more than Golovkin typically does.
By your logic, we should smack-talk Mayweather for fighting, "the smaller guy in" Pacquiao.
Did you see Froch's name in my post? I didn't. I don't care who Froch has fought, at least he was fighting and not suing the promoter who was responsible for his success in the Super Six tournament.
See any catchweight fights in GGG's resume? Remove the Super Six names from Ward's resume and what is left? A bunch of Pudwills and Poo Bears. Not one recognizable name.
You're a A Special Kinda Stupid Are You? You can't "REMOVE SUPER 6 NAMES FROM HIS RESUME" and try to use that as some type of argument to make GGG as Andre Ward's Equal.
One guy is PROVEN and when active is considered the Consensus #2 P4P Fighter in the World, the other guy is NOT Prove and is running on Hype Fumes Created by HBO and great Promotions by K2. That is not to say GGG is not good, I think GGG is a excellent fighter, hands down the best Middleweight in Boxing today, but GGG fans trying to convince people he is better than Ward is going to be a struggle and rightfully so.
I'm done with you, clearly you're a troll and you just love the attention.
GG is this eras Michalczewski. He is content to defend his title against a string of no hopers.
that's really not fair.
i do think golovkin and his team are avoiding 168 lbs in general, but we have to recognize that cotto, martinez, avoided this guy. lou dibella was extremely candid in talking about why he didn't match martinez and golovkin. there's an interview on the internet, if you care to look for it.