What is his coach teaching him? I know I'm on the outside looking in but I hate the way Wilder holds BOTH hands so close to his stomach when he stalks. His hands aren't pro active and leave him open to counter shots or a quick pot shot.
When Wilder shoots his jab its almost like he's backhanding from his waist. He has flashes of a good 1-2 combination but just seems like a guy who is very afraid of making a mistake but isn't being defensively responsible to give him time to think. He often just pulls back in a straight line to defend.
For a tall/rangy fighter one would think he should/could keep his left arm extended to have a more piston like jab at the ready. But instead he jabs from the stomach and retracts back to the stomach. I understand he's utilizing his reach so he holds it low but he could be a lot more polished.
What is his coach teaching him? I know I'm on the outside looking in but I hate the way Wilder holds BOTH hands so close to his stomach when he stalks. His hands aren't pro active and leave him open to counter shots or a quick pot shot.
When Wilder shoots his jab its almost like he's backhanding from his waist. He has flashes of a good 1-2 combination but just seems like a guy who is very afraid of making a mistake but isn't being defensively responsible to give him time to think. He often just pulls back in a straight line to defend.
For a tall/rangy fighter one would think he should/could keep his left arm extended to have a more piston like jab at the ready. But instead he jabs from the stomach and retracts back to the stomach. I understand he's utilizing his reach so he holds it low but he could be a lot more polished.
This is a good criticism as I was thinking the same thing the other night watching him. I'd say half the time Wilder has a good solid quick and powerful jab. Other times he throws the jab from his mid body sideways or sidearm; it's very unorthodox and seems lackadaisical and susceptible to an easy counter punch
It's a shame Steward passed, he would've been a GREAT trainer for Wilder.
We saw how he turned some nobody getting sparked by journeymen into the HW champ Wlad is today.
His coaches don't know what they're doing, he needs to switch asap.
https://youtu.be/7-ZmODFI5h4
Mark Breland(c) vs Lloyd Honeyghan - WBA 147 title
Doesn't all the way make sense for me either, but the person who's teaching Wilder to fight was taught to do the same types of things and was pretty successful with it.
Basically how boxing has always worked; a young fighter learns from an ex-fighter, who was taught by an ex-fighter, who was taught by an ex-fighter.
Lol pretty much the circle of life.
He DOES get hit...Molina had him a but wobbled last night. He used to be Klitschko's sparring partner...I'm pretty sure Klitschko knows exactly how to put him away. BTW...just to be clear...I wasn't saying fighting hands down is a good thing for him to do...it's his flaw as far as I'm concerned.
Wilder is still just a contender with a title if that makes sense.
I would figure so but I think his hands down would be a nightmare against an active fighter on the inside or someone of equal to better talent. Stiverne and Molina were able to slip a few right hands probably because it comes off telegraphed when Wilder has to move so much weight.
As much as I think Fury would beat Klitschko and Wilder, Anthony Joshua looks like the type of boxer to really trouble these big men that fight heavily to their large stature. Joshua is going to be a scary fighter in the future if he has a good chin.
He DOES get hit...Molina had him a but wobbled last night. He used to be Klitschko's sparring partner...I'm pretty sure Klitschko knows exactly how to put him away. BTW...just to be clear...I wasn't saying fighting hands down is a good thing for him to do...it's his flaw as far as I'm concerned.
Hands drown requires much less energy...your hands get very heavy after you have thrown a lot of punches. It makes for a terrible defense but some fighters can get away with it if the have very long arms and can fight from a distance or have incredible speed and reflexes...but speed fades as you age and you saw what happened to Roy Jones Jr when you fight like that.
Klitschko fights hands up and has the conditioning to do it and negates Wilder's size advantage...although Wilder has a 2" reach advantage. Klitschko is where Wilder's hands down style will likely get him KO'd.
I would figure so but I think his hands down would be a nightmare against an active fighter on the inside or someone of equal to better talent. Stiverne and Molina were able to slip a few right hands probably because it comes off telegraphed when Wilder has to move so much weight.
As much as I think Fury would beat Klitschko and Wilder, Anthony Joshua looks like the type of boxer to really trouble these big men that fight heavily to their large stature. Joshua is going to be a scary fighter in the future if he has a good chin.
He honestly looked like he carried that back turning ***** molina. I have never seen a fighter turn his back as much since I saw that clip of that mullet wearing ***** Brian Sutherland. But the way Wilder casually wheeled away and rolled his chin like Ali/Jones jr. was amateurish. Povetkin will jump in quicker than molina and KO Wilder if he continues to do that with his hands down
Hands drown requires much less energy...your hands get very heavy after you have thrown a lot of punches. It makes for a terrible defense but some fighters can get away with it if the have very long arms and can fight from a distance or have incredible speed and reflexes...but speed fades as you age and you saw what happened to Roy Jones Jr when you fight like that.
Klitschko fights hands up and has the conditioning to do it and negates Wilder's size advantage...although Wilder has a 2" reach advantage. Klitschko is where Wilder's hands down style will likely get him KO'd.
He tries to fight like Ali too much especially defensively, ali never really tried to block unless he was on the ropes, he always used to pull backand move his head with his hands low, difference is he was much more agile, flexible and quicker than Wilder plus he had the ability to come back with counters (pull conter for instance, the move was kinda invented by Ali and Floyd modified it a bit) Wilder is just not so natural as a fighter and his instincts and intuition is not all that good cuz he started boxing late. I think he can still improve a little bit but I'd stay away from big punchers if I were him , careful matchmaking is a must.
Yeah just terrible. Won every round but 1, knocked him down four times, scored massively off his jab, and introduced a nasty hook.
YDKSAB
And somehow still looked like ass.
BUUUUUUUM SQUAAAAAD!!!!!
He looked absolutely horrible against Molina.
Yeah just terrible. Won every round but 1, knocked him down four times, scored massively off his jab, and introduced a nasty hook.
YDKSAB
What he was taught/is most comfortable with he has always used a variation of the cross armed/chicken wing guard and it allows him to easily meddle with his gloves constantly trying to push his knuckles towards the front of his gloves.
He was doing it all the way back in his amateur days before he was even with Breland.
I don't mind it since his jab is still sharp, long, and powerful. Him pulling straight back with his hands down is the real issue. He will get put to sleep if he doesn't fix that ****.
Yeah and his trainers realize it.and are working on it:
http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/25214293/looking-at-whats-next-for-deontay-wilder-and-the-rising-heavyweight-division
Read part with Russ Anber
I said it's quicker to punch especially with leverage. Not quicker to defend. Wilders jab wouldn't be as effective if he kept his hands up.
No it is quicker to throw hands up as it is a straight line to the target
What is his coach teaching him? I know I'm on the outside looking in but I hate the way Wilder holds BOTH hands so close to his stomach when he stalks. His hands aren't pro active and leave him open to counter shots or a quick pot shot.
When Wilder shoots his jab its almost like he's backhanding from his waist. He has flashes of a good 1-2 combination but just seems like a guy who is very afraid of making a mistake but isn't being defensively responsible to give him time to think. He often just pulls back in a straight line to defend.
For a tall/rangy fighter one would think he should/could keep his left arm extended to have a more piston like jab at the ready. But instead he jabs from the stomach and retracts back to the stomach. I understand he's utilizing his reach so he holds it low but he could be a lot more polished.
https://youtu.be/7-ZmODFI5h4
Mark Breland(c) vs Lloyd Honeyghan - WBA 147 title
Doesn't all the way make sense for me either, but the person who's teaching Wilder to fight was taught to do the same types of things and was pretty successful with it.
Basically how boxing has always worked; a young fighter learns from an ex-fighter, who was taught by an ex-fighter, who was taught by an ex-fighter.
Not true at all,hands up is the fastest and puts your hands right back to defend
I said it's quicker to punch especially with leverage. Not quicker to defend. Wilders jab wouldn't be as effective if he kept his hands up.
Not true at all,hands up is the fastest and puts your hands right back to defend
This is true and its not like Wilder even keeps his right hand at home to defend at the ready.
Just look where Wilder's jab has gone from that video of Lennox trying to teach him how to jab after pub close to today. If there's one thing everyone could take a lesson from Mark Breland on, it's a scoring jab.