why is margarito cheating against cotto theory widely accepted? proof?

after nazim made them rewrap his hands he got his as s handed to him by hopkins.. And you really think a bit more gauze here and there would have made a difference vs B-Hop. Can you point out all the head buts he pulled? No? I wonder why? Still it tooked B-Hop a much bigger, stronger, technical fighter 12 rounds to beat Tito. Stop the Boricua hating man or at least get your fact straight!

Yeah, he attempted to cheat for the first time against an opponent he was heavily favoured to beat.

Its said the plaster mixture leaves a pink tint. plus the cracked wraps. Don't recall sweat cracking wrap like that. You also look at the fights. Margs was expected to go threw Mosley and tried to cheat anyway. Cotto was his first big time fight. Cant expect people to believe he cheated for the so called easier fight but didn't for the bigger fight. What I don't get is why do people still insist on defending him. And when Max asked him was there a difference in the punches he just said look at my face compared to the last fight.

Just noticing the red stain now. I can't tell if the red stain on his glove wrap in the cotto fight is the same stain as in the picture of the mosley wrap, but I will acknowledge that it could be. It can be consider that the block was covered with gauze so some of the glove stain passed to it no all as it was noticeable in the Cotto fight.

The same red stain was found in the block that was found in the Mosley fight (Before the fight started to be clear) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0128759ad99c970c-320wi In this block was were it was found evidence of plaster. Capetillo was banned from boxing and Margarito was sentence for 1 year. This was Arum's making ($$$) And what really cost him for Cotto to say " Go F@ck yourself" Just noticing the red stain now. I can't tell if the red stain on his glove wrap in the cotto fight is the same stain as in the picture of the mosley wrap, but I will acknowledge that it could be.

Explain the cracked wrap & gauze: http://www.nowboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/Margarito-Hand-Wraps-Vs-Cotto.jpg http://www.boxingfutures.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/hero/Cotto-vs-Margarito-II_1.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/xineis/novo-6.jpg The same red stain was found in the block that was found in the Mosley fight (Before the fight started to be clear) http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0128759ad99c970c-320wi In this block was were it was found evidence of plaster. Capetillo was banned from boxing and Margarito was sentence for 1 year. This was Arum's making ($$$) And what really cost him for Cotto to say " Go F@ck yourself"

Was Mosley suspended? you can't win, just stop.

Was Mosley suspended? Mosley wasnt caught cheating, he just admitted what he did. Margarito was caught on the spot trying to cheat. Sometimes is better to think before posting.

Actually Tito's wraps are legal in most states. If it was illegal don't you think he would have been suspended? after nazim made them rewrap his hands he got his as s handed to him by hopkins..

Margarito came into the training camp for the Mosley fight way overweight and in poor shape. His trainer knew his fighter wasn't the same one who stopped Cotto and resorted to desperate measures. This may seem like speculation, but with any contrary proof it is at least as valid as the "Margarito always cheated" theory which has zero supporting evidence. Look Margarito may have beat Cotto legitimately, who knows. I do know that the Mosley fight lost me a lot of respect for Margarito and he subsequently got rekt a few times. It's not proof, but I don't think Margarito deserves the benefit of the doubt or even a thread this long discussing him. Also for the record, it was discovered in the Resto fight that padding had been removed from the gloves BUT later on, in the documentary made about it, it was admitted that the wraps were dipped in plaster as well. He was basically hittin the dude with unpadded bricks. EDIT: Also, even though I really dislike Margarito, I'd like to point out that that is almost definitely some sort of thread or hair on the handwraps.

Actually Tito's wraps are legal in most states. If it was illegal don't you think he would have been suspended? Was Mosley suspended?

didnt nazeem bust that lame f uck you have in your avatar.....illegal wraps the irony....:bottle: Actually Tito's wraps are legal in most states. If it was illegal don't you think he would have been suspended?

so it was a used gauze i wonder if he or his trainer like many top athletes have a superstition or ritual And used the gauze he beat cotto with hence the pink in the knuckle which matches one in both pics .

Legacy? What legacy? His career revolves around beating Cotto, and thats it. Dude is one of the most overrated boxers in history and doesn't even contain a prime run on his resume. My thing is, how do you load up your gloves for "only" Mosley but not load up your gloves for the biggest fight of your career against a prime undefeated Cotto? Makes zero sense. Him and his team are cowards for trying to cheat, plane and simple. didnt nazeem bust that lame f uck you have in your avatar.....illegal wraps the irony....:bottle:

The Facts Margarito’s hands were wrapped in his dressing room prior to the Mosley fight by his longtime trainer, Javier Capetillo. The task began under the supervision of inspector Che Guevara with Naazim Richardson (Mosley’s trainer) looking on. Before a big fight, Richardson usually objects to the manner in which an opponent’s hands are being taped if for no other reason than to upset the opposing fighter. Here, he lodged numerous objections to the taping of Margarito’s right hand. Several more inspectors, including chief inspector Dean Lohuis, came into the dressing room. Richardson’s objections were overruled. Then Capetillo began taping Margarito’s left hand, and Richardson asked if he could physically inspect the knuckle pad. Lohuis instructed Capetillo to pass the pad to Richardson. Naazim felt it and said that it seemed unusually hard. He then handed the pad to Lohuis, who agreed that it felt stiffer than is normally the case. CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, “Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times.” Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito’s attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, “Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF.” California rules allow for the use of gauze and surgical adhesive tape when wrapping a fighter’s hands; nothing else. The application of water or any other liquid to the gauze or tape is prohibited. ________

Listen guy, you don't get a 1-year suspension for loading your gloves with "plaster" or "bricks". You get a lifetime ban/suspension. Marg got 1 year because it wasn't even plaster to begin with, it was some trace elements that need other elements combined to make a plaster-like substance. As mentioned earlier, those "elements" can be found in anything, even hand lotion. "The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law). In the event of revocation, either man would be free to reapply after one year with no guarantee of reinstatement. An irrevocable permanent ban was not an available option."

Break his hands. :lol1: Sure! Nice try? I've already exposed your hypocrite ass. I don't even have to try when you own your damn self. :lol1: Research it yourself if you don't believe me. Hypocrite? :bottle:

Oh, he beat Sergio 15 years ago when Sergio was in his 18th fight and still a pup? Thats great. He beat Clottey when Clottey dominated the first 4 rounds to only break his hand in the 5th or 6th (can't remember) hindering him from continued domination. And Clottey was a nobody too. Nice try though. Break his hands. :lol1: Sure! Nice try? I've already exposed your hypocrite ass. I don't even have to try when you own your damn self. :lol1:

Thought so. Let me give you a simple fact. Did you know Margarito fought and beat Clottey and Martinez before Cotto? Your shit has been debunked. Cotto fought Margarito's leftovers. :lol1: Damn I bet that makes you feel even more angry doesn't it? Oh, he beat Sergio 15 years ago when Sergio was in his 18th fight and still a pup? Thats great. He beat Clottey when Clottey dominated the first 4 rounds to only break his hand in the 5th or 6th (can't remember) hindering him from continued domination. And Clottey was a nobody too. Nice try though.

Exactly and they didn't fool Naazim Richardson. If Margarito used the wraps before Mosley it's very possible the commissioner missed it too. I don't think anyone's saying he's been using plaster since his first pro fight but there's a very strong case that he used it against Cotto and possibly before. I have no problem with people being suspicious. What I object to is people saying it as fact, like Kellerman did.