Molina- Opportunity of lifetime!

Why do people keep saying Wilder has a "suspect chin"? what a load of BS. I'm starting to think most people have never seen Wilder actually fight, they just go off what Wilder-haters say on boards like this. Wilder took several nice shots from Stiverne, a 248 lb beast and was never even hurt. Meanwhile people talk about Povetkin's "great chin" as he goes down like 5 times to Wlad's jab. Wilder does not have a "suspect chin", what a crock.. No, Wilder DOES have a an overwhelmingly suspect glass chin. He also has extremely suspect stamina. In fact both are almost lock ins given the evidence. You claim the Stiverne fight proved him, WRONG, it actually exposed him somewhat, and otherwised deepended the mystery. Doctors reports were official. Stiverne suffered from a very serious and debilitating condition called Rhabdomyolsis. He had no strength or stamina or energy and could barely throw a punch, or many of them, offering the poorest output possible even for him, a guy with a low output anyway! Basically Wilder outboxed a man over 12 rounds who could not punch back or catch him hard enough to hurt him, and was right out of breath, pushed to the limit doing so. That's REALLY bad! I think that Wilder vs a healthy Stiverne would be more closely even, I would edge Stiverne in a rematch. I think that the Arreola that Stiverne beat would utterly destroy Wilder.

I have only 1 question.. no name fighter, about to fight for the HW championship of the world! Who has never once beaten a credible opponent. But has it happened ever before in the past? Yes. Apollo Creeds opponent backed out of fight and Rocky Balboa was chosen out of a book cause of nickname. Didnt even have a locker in the gym :boxing::boxing:

Why do people keep saying Wilder has a "suspect chin"? what a load of BS. I'm starting to think most people have never seen Wilder actually fight, they just go off what Wilder-haters say on boards like this. Wilder took several nice shots from Stiverne, a 248 lb beast and was never even hurt. Meanwhile people talk about Povetkin's "great chin" as he goes down like 5 times to Wlad's jab. Wilder does not have a "suspect chin", what a crock.. I agree with this. There is no evidence of DW having a poor chin. He took good shots from Stiverne who is a good puncher. The amateur stuff is a different world. Wilder will inherit the division once WK retires/loses and he will rule for a long time. Dude is 29, athletic, strong, has a big heart and a nuclear right hand. WAR WILDER! :boxing:

You say massive payday, I say fair payday. Like I said I'm sure top ten guys can get more, then Molina is making for this fight, fighting non-champions so from the getting your market value mindset it makes no sense for them to accept short money. And you'll get no argument from me about Wilder's talent level, he can probably beat most of the top ten, but that still don't mean you should lowball them. It seems to me Wilder's team has more apprehension about Wilder than most of his harder core fans do cuz they've taken the path of least resistance from pro debut til now while acting like no one wants to fight him cuz they're making ****ty offers. I see your point, my counter argument who IS fighting other Top 10 guys? These guys like Pulev, Jennings, Stiverne, Fury may be the rightful top contender, but they certainly aren't in any rush to prove it. The only guy who seems to want to fight other top-10-15 guys is Povetkin and he's Wilder's mandatory. None of these guys ever want to fight each other. The game is to beat up stiffs until you get a shot at Wlad. Lame or not, Wilder is no different in this regard..

Disagree 100%. I think a lot of cats in the top 10 would fight him if not all of them, but it sounds like they threw some lowball offers around & Molina's team bit. Good for them its an opportunity, but most top ten cats can probably make 2x what Molina's getting for fighting a lesser guy so it makes no sense to take less money now. The ducking talk is out of control on all boxing forums. There is always more context than fans wanna think about going on with choices guys make or don't make at any particular time. You can't be saying anyone is being ducked when they are only offering x dollars for a fight thats worth 2x, 3x that offer. Sure the top 10 guys would fight him for massive paydays but a Wilder fight is going to be a lotto ticket if he unifies after he beats an ancient Wlad. I think a lot of contenders look at a 29-year old Wilder and see his talent and see he's not going anywhere. If you're Pulev, Fury, Joshua, etc and you can grab a Wilder fight you it will be like a Mayweather fight now, massive paydays..

I don't want Wilder to lose, but it'd be funny if he struggled and went 'life and death' with Molina

Stop lying to the people here,Molina has no.shot, even if he landed the perfect punch on Wilders suspect chin.. This dude has no passion or drive..He won the lotto and get a lil$$$. He's a fraud..just ask his former trainer James Gouge.. Why do people keep saying Wilder has a "suspect chin"? what a load of BS. I'm starting to think most people have never seen Wilder actually fight, they just go off what Wilder-haters say on boards like this. Wilder took several nice shots from Stiverne, a 248 lb beast and was never even hurt. Meanwhile people talk about Povetkin's "great chin" as he goes down like 5 times to Wlad's jab. Wilder does not have a "suspect chin", what a crock..

Molina aint so bad, i think i seen his last fight n hes decent Wilder is beast but he has huge flaws, i think Molina can pull the upset Stop lying to the people here,Molina has no.shot, even if he landed the perfect punch on Wilders suspect chin.. This dude has no passion or drive..He won the lotto and get a lil$$$. He's a fraud..just ask his former trainer James Gouge..

Meh there have been worse defenses. Besides it's a voluntary defense. Wilder doesn't have to do a dang thing until he fights Povetkin if he wants, He could just hide out in the gym until he walks out to face Sasha. Instead he wants to give his hometown fans a show, gain exposure and make him and Molina some extra cash. None of the top 10 contenders watch to fight him so why not face a tall guy who might at least give him some rounds. I think it's smarter then Jennings or Pulev who have zilcho since their Wlad losses..

I knew your agenda against any fighter that exists before 2000 would come into play here. That said I've seen Molina fight before once (against Arreola) this is a KO 1 type of fight for Wilder (who I think is a very poor fighter).

To be sure, it's Deontay who will score the KO.

This is a voluntary defence from Deontay. His mandatory is Povetkin sometimes this Fall I guess. This fight will be an early KO - inside 2 rounds, probably 1st round.

Molina aint so bad, i think i seen his last fight n hes decent Wilder is beast but he has huge flaws, i think Molina can pull the upset

I just checked and your right!! Why was it claimed elsewhere that Molina was ranked 50 something then? Sorry I have to retract that initial assumption then which kind of negates the entire thread question. Except I'd like to know how Molina gets pushed to number 9 after getting absolutely destroyed by Arreola and not doing anything else of note?? I think someone cited Boxrec for that ranking. On topic: Ali gave Chuck Wepner a title shot and supposedly that was the inspiration for the movie Rocky

Molina is ranked #9 by the WBC. I just checked and your right!! Why was it claimed elsewhere that Molina was ranked 50 something then? Sorry I have to retract that initial assumption then which kind of negates the entire thread question. Except I'd like to know how Molina gets pushed to number 9 after getting absolutely destroyed by Arreola and not doing anything else of note??

Molina vs Leapai and the JM Mormeck who fought WK would be interesting fights. Not sure who I'd pick tbh

Jesse Ferguson beat Ray Mercer in what was only a tune up fight as Mercer was getting a title shot at Riddick Bowe along with a 6 million pay day. Bowe actually gave Jesse a title shot which was bogus. Tommy Morrison defended his lightly regarded WBO title (wasn't recognized as a world strap until 2004-2005)against Michael Bentt. He wanted a quick payday from HBO before his 8 million purse & WBC title shot at Lennox Lewis. He ended up losing to lewis in a non title fight later...

Molina is ranked #9 by the WBC.

Let's hope it happens. I understand first defenses are hometown showcases where you're supposed to look good, but this is beyond pathetic. However, I'd prefer Povetkin taking that belt and busting Wilder's bubble better.

It would be hilarious if he landed a lucky punch... but not really because then wilder would make a bunch of money on the rematch and have an excuse to duck povetkin That is true, but if a miracle happens, then I think a Povetkin fight would suddenly be off the radar for Wilder anyway, nor would Povetkin want to bother fighting him. Wilder's stock will fall from the sky quicker than the Hindenburg.