I was trying to find the fight night weight of Canelo, and I read that back in 2013 in his Trout fight, he weighted 172 the night of the fight. In the same year, GGG weighted 170 the night of his fights.
Now that Canelo is fighting at CW (CaneloCotto-Weight) of 155, maybe he is coming in 174 or so the fight night.
Canelo is looking BIG, he's really huge lately. Some pictures take him more thick than Golovkin.
Imagine Canelo making 159-160 in the weigh in, and 175-178 in fight night? he would clearly have a weight advantage over GGG.
So they should make the fight and stop complaining. And the Ward/Mayweather fans should preassure Ward to fight at LHW and stop lobbying for GGG to move up. GGG still has not unified his division. Ward already have.
Dude fought Mayweather,Trout,Lara,and Kirkland!
And while you're wrapping your mind around that he only loss to Mayweather ! He's called out the toughest guys in his division! At his age you have to give it to him.He's the champion with or without belts!And I thought going in that he was another Julio Ceaser Chavez Jr!
Canelo, the world's number 1 ranked 154 pounder has committed the unpardonable sin of having 2 non title fights at 155. For doing this he should lose his boxing license. He should be tarred and feathered. He should be kicked out of his church and he should be kicked out of Mexico and banished to live out his days on bread and water in a prison on the southern tip of South America.
I am aware that boxers do this but.....
Canelo doesnt want to fight for titles @154, he said so himself.
So what is he actually doing then?
at the kirkland postfight conference he said that he wants to go for a 154 title this year, he didnt want laras title cuz that is the same title he lost to floyd, so lara getting that title vs trout who was coming off a loss to canelo was kind of bogus...
As far as Canelo's team wanting to start a new special weight class just for Canelo that's pure BS and nonsense. There are two important fighters that did just that. Mayweather started his own jr jr middleweight class of 152 and Cotto started his own super junior middleweight class of 157.
if you are unaware of non-title fights taking place one pound over the limit then you prob havent been following the sport enough... you have every right to disagree with that, but no one is going against the rules by doing that...
I am aware that boxers do this but.....
Canelo doesnt want to fight for titles @154, he said so himself.
So what is he actually doing then?
All the b*tching about Canelo fighting at 155 is coming from Canelo haters who are desperate to trash him for something. Any fool knows that the vast majority of non title fights between contenders are fought a pound or two over the class limit. If Canelo was a 154 pound champion and he defended his title at 155 that would be wrong. Just as wrong as Cotto defending his 160 pound title at a Cotto weight limit of 157. Canelo is not a champion and has no obligation to fight at 154. Hell, don't make a damn federal case out of one stinking pound. Canelo can and will make 154 if he fights for a 154 pound title.
GGG and Canelo are nearly the same size, there isnt much in it.
GGG is a bit taller but I think canelo is broader.
There is no reason as to why Canelo cant fight at 160, he wouldnt have to cut so much weight to weigh in and would be healthier.
Im not sure how many fighters have created their own weight division to 'grow into' the next one, just move up and have a few easy fights to get acclimatized.
if you are unaware of non-title fights taking place one pound over the limit then you prob havent been following the sport enough... you have every right to disagree with that, but no one is going against the rules by doing that...
Who is offering GGG fights at 154 or 155lbs?
ODLH is saying 2 years and Canelo says he doesn't plan on moving to 160 anytime soon.
Canelo could cut the 155lb bullsh*t and fight the best MW in the world in Sept. if he wanted it.
why will jmws be offering fights at a fighter that belongs at MW?
if GGG wants to fight jmws he needs to campaign there...
oscar didnt want canelo to fight trout or lara, and canelo did it, i have no doubt that he will fight him if he comes down, or when canelo goes up...
Neither Golovkin nor Canelo can *comfortably* make 154 anymore so this is a moot point.
They are the same size, struggle to make 154, a bit small for 160.
very few fighters are comfortable at the weigh-in, most of them have to cut weight for a reason... but again, i think that any fighter will rather struggle to make 154 than to fight on a division like 160, other than floyd most fighters go up to 170 on fight night and that doesnt mean they have to go to MW...
pretty much if canelo and GGG are the same size GGG wouldnt have a problem fighting at 154 or 155, but clearly he does have a problem doing it ... i will like to see GGG squeeze to 152 like canelo did for floyd, if canelo was drained at the scale GGG will die there...
Who is offering GGG fights at 154 or 155lbs?
ODLH is saying 2 years and Canelo says he doesn't plan on moving to 160 anytime soon.
Canelo could cut the 155lb bullsh*t and fight the best MW in the world in Sept. if he wanted it.
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Those photos are from back when Canelo was college kid aged and could still make low 150s. He's bigger now.
If there was an imaginary "157.5555555" division they would both be fighting in it.
I don't like this system of weighing in 32 hours before the fight for this reason. GGG is a small middleweight. Big middleweights weigh 180 on fight night. Lara and Trout weigh in the 170s just like Canelo. Canelo can fight at 155 if he wants to in non title fights and it hurts nobody. Ward is fighting at 172 and Broner is fighting at 144. As long as no title is on the line it is between the two fighters what weight they fight at. Title fights should always be fought at the correct weight. Canelo is staying a jr middleweight and if he fights for a 154 pound title he will make 154 just like he always has. Hell. he made 152 for Mayweather. If people don't like it that he gains lots of weight after the weigh in they should blame the system of weighing in the day before the fight and not Canelo because he is obeying the rules. In the day of the fight weigh in days fighters never put on more than a few pounds between the weigh in and the fight. I liked that way much better.
pretty much if canelo and GGG are the same size GGG wouldnt have a problem fighting at 154 or 155, but clearly he does have a problem doing it ... i will like to see GGG squeeze to 152 like canelo did for floyd, if canelo was drained at the scale GGG will die there...
Neither Golovkin nor Canelo can *comfortably* make 154 anymore so this is a moot point.
They are the same size, struggle to make 154, a bit small for 160.
pac was heavier than floyd on fight night, doesnt mean he is bigger, water weight is not equal muscles or thicker structure...
but again, if GGG is as small he woulndt be fighting on a dead division his entire career while having canelo, cotto and floyd at 154...
GGG and Canelo are nearly the same size, there isnt much in it.
GGG is a bit taller but I think canelo is broader.
There is no reason as to why Canelo cant fight at 160, he wouldnt have to cut so much weight to weigh in and would be healthier.
Im not sure how many fighters have created their own weight division to 'grow into' the next one, just move up and have a few easy fights to get acclimatized.
Im not sure as to why you are so desperate to convince people that Canelo is smaller then GGG.
The fact is that Canelo weighs more then GGG on fight night, nothing you try and say will ever change that fact.
pac was heavier than floyd on fight night, doesnt mean he is bigger, water weight is not equal muscles or thicker structure...
but again, if GGG is as small he woulndt be fighting on a dead division his entire career while having canelo, cotto and floyd at 154...
I also want to see this fight and it will eventually happen if GGG stays at 160... Just wanted to point out that canelo started his pro career at 140 or 147 and will most likely end it at 160, as for GGG he started his at 160 and most likely end it at 175.
canelo turned pro at age 15. ggg at age 24(canelo's age right now) canelo's draining himself to death just to make 155 for some strange reason but essentially they are the same size as fully grown men. the only reason ggg would go up is for money fights and glory. his body isn't going to force him up like canelo's did. if ggg turned pro at 16 he would probably be a welterweight as well.
Camelot is a MW because he fights at 155 period! Fight night weighs are irrelevant. If that's th case then Floyd is easily a JMW if not a MW. So is Cotto and rios. Need I go on? Stupid logic
I agree. War Camelot!
pretty much if canelo and GGG are the same size GGG wouldnt have a problem fighting at 154 or 155, but clearly he does have a problem doing it ... i will like to see GGG squeeze to 152 like canelo did for floyd, if canelo was drained at the scale GGG will die there...
Im not sure as to why you are so desperate to convince people that Canelo is smaller then GGG.
The fact is that Canelo weighs more then GGG on fight night, nothing you try and say will ever change that fact.