A boxer's fists are legally considered deadly weapons on the street because that's exactly what they are.
Not to get off topic, but at least in the US that is an urban legend.
The reason MMA guys use that excuse that MMA is better than boxing in a real fight is because they know they just have to tackle someone. Which takes almost zero skill by the way. I know ZERO wrestling or jiu jitsu and I bet if I ran at someone and tried to tackle them I would succeed 90+% of the time no matter what they know. That is not bragging about me at all, its just gravity/natural science.
That's about as ignorant as someone saying boxing is just punching and punching takes almost zero skill.
Executing a takedown is not that easy. If you disagree, head over to an MMA gym or a Gracie academy and try a free class. It's not as easy as it looks. The guys who make it look easy on TV have been doing it for years.
What is inferior in street fighting is always relative to the situation. Which someone who has not been in many street fights probably would not know. I have been in quite a few in my life and using my hands has always served me well, win or lose. The only reason MMA is superior to boxing in a street fight is for one reason only....gravity. The existence of gravity is and will always be the only reason ground fighting can be considered superior. Wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners have that inherent advantage in every situation. Except in a boxing ring of course where they would get beaten up. Growing up the only people who tackled people, brought them to the ground or used headlocks were the people getting their asses beat. Those were the only ones. All that **** is, is a way out when your ears boxed off. That is why I have no interest in MMA because of the ground crap, its awful to watch. Muay Thai and Boxing are vastly superior to watch to me. The reason MMA guys use that excuse that MMA is better than boxing in a real fight is because they know they just have to tackle someone. Which takes almost zero skill by the way. I know ZERO wrestling or jiu jitsu and I bet if I ran at someone and tried to tackle them I would succeed 90+% of the time no matter what they know. That is not bragging about me at all, its just gravity/natural science.
That's bullsh*t. For every one MMA KO that comes from kicks there will be 5 times that many KOs that come from punches in MMA fights. If a kick was 10 times harder than a punch there would be a death or two every MMA show. If you had said a good kick was 50% harder than a good punch I could accept that. But saying a kick is 10 times harder than a punch means as I said before you are totally full of sh*t. If you like MMA so much more than boxing then why don't you stay on those boards and quit trashing my favorite fighting art. Sure some washed up champion boxers have lost to MMA guys. So what. They go to a different sport when they can't cut it as a boxer. Any guy who has the skill to be good as a pro boxer or an MMA fighter is going to chose boxing because it pays about 10 times better. Lots of your MMA heros are guys that couldn't make it as a pro boxer.
Yup. Boxing is where the money is.
What makes you think MMA is all about the ground? You understand kicks can generate 10x the force of a punch?That's bullsh*t. For every one MMA KO that comes from kicks there will be 5 times that many KOs that come from punches in MMA fights. If a kick was 10 times harder than a punch there would be a death or two every MMA show. If you had said a good kick was 50% harder than a good punch I could accept that. But saying a kick is 10 times harder than a punch means as I said before you are totally full of sh*t. If you like MMA so much more than boxing then why don't you stay on those boards and quit trashing my favorite fighting art. Sure some washed up champion boxers have lost to MMA guys. So what. They go to a different sport when they can't cut it as a boxer. Any guy who has the skill to be good as a pro boxer or an MMA fighter is going to chose boxing because it pays about 10 times better. Lots of your MMA heros are guys that couldn't make it as a pro boxer.
retired 40-something Ray Mercer KTFO a UFC heavyweight champ in less than a minute inside a cage in an MMA fight. Lets see any UFC fighter get in a ring and today and beat Vitali Klitschko in a boxing match :rofl:
The dumbest thing about "what wins in a street fight" argument is that to possess any of the superior abilities discussed in these arguments, you've got to be quite proficient in at least one martial art. Which pretty much puts you as more trained in fighting that 98% of the population. So yeah, you better win a damn street fight if you've trained in some discipline for years.
Is Steven Segale Katie Segales brother or sister?
If you take a fish out of water their in a compromizing situation. Put a boxer in a cage and he's not in his elemate, same with an mma competitor in a ring with boxing rules.
Put them both on a street alley with a real modern street fighter and they all get cut & shot, quickly!
Honestly these types of threads need to be abolished it doesn't get anymore juvenile than this. My daddy could kick your daddy azz..........:argue:
Katy Segale would kick the crap out of Steveno.
You are full of sh*t. If boxing is so inferior what are you doing on this boxing board? Get your ass out of here and go to a board of some other martial art you think is so good. Segal is a movie actor and so is Bruce Lee. They are unbeatable fighters in the movies but neither of them ever made a dime in a professional fight. Most boxers were great street fighters before they were boxers. Duran had thousands of street fights selling papers as a youngster. A light heavyweight named De Paula who lost to Foster and Tiger said he had knocked out about 1000 guys in street fights. A boxer's fists are legally considered deadly weapons on the street because that's exactly what they are. One good bare knuckle punch from Wlad would probably put Segal in a coma.
Go on you tube and watch Trevor Bebick vs Takada....Ray Mercer also was knocked out in kick boxing .Ive seen pro boxers get dropped from kicks,very useful at times for a maximum results.Just watch high light reels of MMA fighter Mirko Cro cop as he shows his gayness ...decapitating people.
Not saying it is not effective and it is good to watch in mma but in a street fight if people start kicking it is gay.
Actually, boxing translates very well to street fighting. MMA fans disagree, but the last place you want to end up in a street fight or a bar fight is on the ground. Boxers have the ability to actually land punches and do damage. Dirty boxing/grappling is also useful.
No, most MMA fans/practitioners I know don't disagree. Having a good punch and knowing how to avoid punches is a great skill to have in a street fight.
As to the ground, you've been fooled into believing that's all MMA guys do in fights. It's bunk. MMA guys know the dangers of grappling in street fights. But let me ask you this; if the fight does happen to go to the ground for whatever reason, wouldn't you want to have some experience in grappling instead of being a complete newbie on the ground?
When martial arts legend Mas Oyama was asked....
"What's the most important skill for self defense in the streets?'
The founder of the Kyokushin school of Karate answered...
"Running!"
He demonstrated his point after having just killed a bull with one punch. Immediately after the animal cruelty, Oyama ordered his assistants to get him a horse. He then proceeded to outrun the horse.
The Floyd Mayweather "boxing" style of RUNNING works very well in self defense for the streets.
I can only speak from my own experiences as a bartender on Water St. in Milwaukee back in my college days, but going for a takedown of any kind in a bar brawl is usually a terrible idea. I saw so many HS wrestler/MMA wannabe tough guy types go for a takedown only for the other guy to sprawl and bash them in the face or in the back of the head. The first good punch almost always wins a street fight, and more often than not it was that punch after a failed takedown. That's not to say I didn't see wrestlers or guys from Roufusport tear guys apart, just that going for a takedown in a bar brawl had a pretty low success rate imo.
Who the fuck cares? I don't follow this sport because I think here are the best street fighters. I follow it because I like watching the sport and I like the different styles.
But if you made this thread to convince the braindeads who only can appreciate fighters who haven't got defence and just attack in a straight line and if someone uses lateral movement or footwork then he's runner then I hope you will achieve it.