The problem with mayweather is he has found a way to beat the system, but not beat the boxer in front of him.
There are a couple of reasons for this:
In Vegas they don't score draw rounds. If mayweather lands 3 more jabs, they give it to him. If nothing happens, he gets in by default.
Running shouldn't be discriminated against since the sport is about hitting and not being hit. The real problem is when floyd buys time and kills 2 minutes of a round by staying away, then wins the round with about 30 seconds of activity.
These are 2 factors why people say he dominates (on the cards) but in reality he hasn't wooped anyone.
In theory I can see why pacquiao felt robbed, floyd was winning rounds by running, clinching and landing sometimes a single grazing right hand near the end to pick up a round that should have been a draw.
I also question how anyone could have given floyd the first maidana fight? He certainly lost the first 6 rounds and maybe won 2 rounds near the end.
He certainly lost the first 6 rounds and maybe won 2 rounds near the end.
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What f*cking fight were you watching?
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How the hell could any person(w/common sense) watch this(11th round) and call it either way...get dominated for 2:40 seconds land a nice punch during last ten seconds and call it "either way"...now I can see why its pointless to debate here. Hell 12th round same thing, although Oscar got the better of the exchange at end
11th round(start at 54 seconds)
I seriously don't get what people are watching sometimes. Round 11 was clear as hell. That was a 9-3 fight.
against DLH IMO floyd lost:
Round 1 could of gone either way
Round 2 DLH
Round 3 DLH
Round 4 DLH
Round 5 DLH
Round 6 DLH
Round 7 TMT
Round 8 DLH
Round 9 TMT
Round 10 TMT
Round 11 Either way
Round 12 Either way
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How the hell could any person(w/common sense) watch this(11th round) and call it either way...get dominated for 2:40 seconds land a nice punch during last ten seconds and call it "either way"...now I can see why its pointless to debate here. Hell 12th round same thing, although Oscar got the better of the exchange at end
11th round(start at 54 seconds)
The problem with mayweather is he has found a way to beat the system, but not beat the boxer in front of him.
There are a couple of reasons for this:
In Vegas they don't score draw rounds. If mayweather lands 3 more jabs, they give it to him. If nothing happens, he gets in by default.
Running shouldn't be discriminated against since the sport is about hitting and not being hit. The real problem is when floyd buys time and kills 2 minutes of a round by staying away, then wins the round with about 30 seconds of activity.
These are 2 factors why people say he dominates (on the cards) but in reality he hasn't wooped anyone.
In theory I can see why pacquiao felt robbed, floyd was winning rounds by running, clinching and landing sometimes a single grazing right hand near the end to pick up a round that should have been a draw.
I also question how anyone could have given floyd the first maidana fight? He certainly lost the first 6 rounds and maybe won 2 rounds near the end.
If its that easy why dont you do it ? you would get a multi mullionaire
Tell me 3 rounds won by Guerrero, tell me 3,4,6 rounds won by Canelo, tell me 7 rounds won by ODLH, tell me 6 rounds won by Maidana.
against DLH IMO floyd lost:
Round 1 could of gone either way
Round 2 DLH
Round 3 DLH
Round 4 DLH
Round 5 DLH
Round 6 DLH
Round 7 TMT
Round 8 DLH
Round 9 TMT
Round 10 TMT
Round 11 Either way
Round 12 Either way
Wow are there that many Pac-trolls on BS? This will go on and on and for months, probably years, who knows. It is just so sad that pure hate (or love on the other side) has literally made people see things that did not happen and things that were not there. Now that Pac clearly lost to "the bad guy", the whole system is corrupt, judges and refs, scorecards are faked, scoring needs to be overhauled lol....it is truly priceless the sore loser reactions. Really, please continue to make yourselves look like complete fools. I honestly don't think I could clearly give Pac more than 1 round (the 4th) even being completely ubiased. Which to be honest is quite sad, I honestly felt Pac was better than that and would actually give Floyd real trouble, a real test. Hell Chino, Cotto and Canelo did better. Arum/TR were very clever in putting Pac in against Rios and Algieri to make him look better than he is.
Pac had the best line though, what was it? "If he would have just stopped moving, I could have hit him more" or some **** like that HAHAHA. Classic.
Pac only won one rd(the 4th) and Canelo did better, and You're completely unbiased?
Go back to bed.
That is a good right. How many more are there?
And Pacquiao became more aggressive after the 1st. And if you couldn't get that from watching the fight, then just look at your punch-stats.
As for the other .gifs and the stupid question that again followed, Its as a I said in a previous post. Think I'll stop talking to you now.
It only took that one good right, to change Pacs wreckless style we have all been accustomed to.
More aggressive? yeah your nailed it...that's the most aggressive version we have seen of Pac....he became a counter puncher, trying to lead Mayweather into traps, he had success a couple times....in case you didn't notice his biggest punches came off successful counters, problem was it happened only a couple times...I can't help it that you can't accept the loss of #48.
Wow are there that many Pac-trolls on BS? This will go on and on and for months, probably years, who knows. It is just so sad that pure hate (or love on the other side) has literally made people see things that did not happen and things that were not there. Now that Pac clearly lost to "the bad guy", the whole system is corrupt, judges and refs, scorecards are faked, scoring needs to be overhauled lol....it is truly priceless the sore loser reactions. Really, please continue to make yourselves look like complete fools. I honestly don't think I could clearly give Pac more than 1 round (the 4th) even being completely ubiased. Which to be honest is quite sad, I honestly felt Pac was better than that and would actually give Floyd real trouble, a real test. Hell Chino, Cotto and Canelo did better. Arum/TR were very clever in putting Pac in against Rios and Algieri to make him look better than he is.
Pac had the best line though, what was it? "If he would have just stopped moving, I could have hit him more" or some **** like that HAHAHA. Classic.
Here dude...same combo he always tries..right, roll right, then fire left....stopped in tracks.
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You claim people don't know ****, yet you are the one calling the rights he ate pillow punches..I asked you to explain why he was moving backwards when hit....gave examples in gifs...yet you still haven't explained the pillow theory or why after round 1, Manny stopped coming in wreckless and attempted to out counter a counter puncher? Where was the in and out footwork and superhero speed?
Effective Aggression....why did he take a step back after eating a soft right
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That is a good right. How many more are there?
And Pacquiao became more aggressive after the 1st. And if you couldn't get that from watching the fight, then just look at your punch-stats.
As for the other .gifs and the stupid question that again followed, Its as a I said in a previous post. Think I'll stop talking to you now.
It's too much work having a conversation with someone who doesn't know sht, have to hold their hands and explain everything. Point there is Algieri actually stopped Pacquiao, and landed a better shot(s) than Mayweather did as he's too afraid to get inside of anyone's range, why we get the lovetap performances.
Here dude...same combo he always tries..right, roll right, then fire left....stopped in tracks.
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You claim people don't know ****, yet you are the one calling the rights he ate pillow punches..I asked you to explain why he was moving backwards when hit....gave examples in gifs...yet you still haven't explained the pillow theory or why after round 1, Manny stopped coming in wreckless and attempted to out counter a counter puncher? Where was the in and out footwork and superhero speed?
Effective Aggression....why did he take a step back after eating a soft right
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It's some knowledgeable posters posting some bull**** because they have personal beef towards one of the athletes competing.
They know damn well you don't score a fight like that.
Which is actually why most people can't score fights, if you can't check your opinion of preconceived ideas of a fight or the fighters at the door then you can't be a judge.
His inability to learn is quite funny. Same feint he threw at Marquez before getting sparked out. Bob Arum better keep him away from heavy punchers.
Yea, I'm sure you've boxed before and realize it's actually really simple to just stop being you.
I already listed the criteria for scoring a fight....but its obvious dude is a troll. He will probably skip over your comment as well.
He has his mind made up.....I guess, if you walk forward, that means you obviously win in his eyes.....maybe one day he will realize counter punchers are usually not toe to toe guys and have won a ton of professional fights in their careers.
It's some knowledgeable posters posting some bull**** because they have personal beef towards one of the athletes competing.
They know damn well you don't score a fight like that.
Lol obvious you don't have clue what being reset is.....he pulled up on his right hook and left...then started throwing wild punches that didn't connect(my bad pacfans call that effective aggression) and catches another hook in the process.
He wanted a straight left, followed by a right hook, if you need to see him stopped in tracks or backed up, look at the other gifs
It's too much work having a conversation with someone who doesn't know sht, have to hold their hands and explain everything. Point there is Algieri actually stopped Pacquiao, and landed a better shot(s) than Mayweather did as he's too afraid to get inside of anyone's range, why we get the lovetap performances.
Haha. You mayweather fans act like you are students of the game.
By the logic thrown at me in this thread, I would be discrediting a lot of good boxers. Whitaker, duran, ali even hagler. These guys did a lot of hitting and not being hit in return.
Floyd doesn't do this. He doesn't get hit, but he barely hits his opponents either. Yeah the pacquiao fight was boring, but at least pacquiao tried to make it a fight.
Boxing isn't fencing. Its fists fighting. You cant give floyd the round if he did everything in his power to not get hit, and then wins it with a single grazing right hand. People seem to have a double standard for floyd, he would have plenty of losses on his record if it was someone else.
Even in the maidana fight, does anyone take into the account that maidana was the agressor the entire fight? Hes the harder puncher as well. Hes the guy who messed floyds face up. The guy did everything to win but taking floyds 0 away is destroying the ocon floyd created, which makes a lot of money as we all saw.
Then you are simply blinded by bias/hate.
I always find it funny when people bring up meaningless differences, in this case "boxing isn't fencing," in a cheap attempt at strengthening their point. The sad thing is your point is built on another lie, the lie that Pacquiao was the aggressor in that fight.
Moving forward without throwing punches is seen as aggression nowadays?
Pacquiao's work rate was less than Mayweather's, and he achieved less with it. He wasn't the effective aggressor in the fight, he was not even the aggressor.
He got outboxed and lost the fight 117-111.
Lol obvious you don't have clue what being reset is.....he pulled up on his right hook and left(screwed up his whole rhythm)...then started throwing wild punches that didn't connect(my bad pacfans call that effective aggression) and catches another hook in the process.
He wanted a straight left, followed by a right hook, if you need to see him stopped in tracks or backed up, look at the other gifs