Lomanchenko is the most overhyped fighter on this forum

Loma reminds me of Broner before he lost to Maidana Looks flashy and superb against lesser competition but when he finally stepped up against Maidana he got taken apart Same thing with Loma, he fights a poor mans Maidana in Salido and just got outworked (atleast in Salidos stage of his career) because hes so inactive Even against Russel Jnr sometimes he was so inactive, basically running around the ring without throwing punches. Add his lack of power and you have a fighter who hasnt got all the tools to be truly elite. Nah... Loma's footwork is lightyears ahead of Broner's. Maybe he has less pop P4P wise but he doesn't build his tactic on a mistakenly believed comparison. I mean Broner thought that he will have just to put up that philly shell and he will be the new Floyd but it became clear that it's not quite enough for that. Loma has defensive flaws also imo but he is slippery enough to not get caught clean most of the times. Mainly because his weird angles. Based on the "eye test" he is better than Broner. We will see. Imo Loma is the more creative, more fleet feeted, has a better defence and ring IQ. Things in Broner is better: Handspeed, counters. And both of them have a great stamina so far

In what world does Lomachenko have more power than Rigo? lomachenko would have a significant size advantage over rigondeaux. if the fight happens, great, but i wouldn't demand it of rigo. he would probably lose on size alone

Loma reminds me of Broner before he lost to Maidana Looks flashy and superb against lesser competition but when he finally stepped up against Maidana he got taken apart Same thing with Loma, he fights a poor mans Maidana in Salido and just got outworked (atleast in Salidos stage of his career) because hes so inactive Even against Russel Jnr sometimes he was so inactive, basically running around the ring without throwing punches. Add his lack of power and you have a fighter who hasnt got all the tools to be truly elite.

Good breakdown vid of Loma vs Rodriguez.

his style is neither big russian puncher nor elusive cuban or whatever.. it's very unique not heavy handed but stays in your face at weird angles

In his last fight Rodriguez started going low and Lomachenko hit him low back it was good to see him learning. I remember Tszyu initially had the gentleman approach when he first turned pro but learned quickly just watch the MAG fight. Lulz becuase Lomachenko fights like Lara, Rigo, Floyd. He's a front foot fighter who regularly pressures, aggressively attacks while throwing combinations and has supurb defense while doing it. He is not a counter punching runner who refuses to lead or engage. Loma is a counter puncher that uses angles and superb ring IQ to do away with his foes. He fights more like Rigo and Floyd than he does like GGG and Kovalev. THAT'S A FACT.

You likely just see what you want to see. Lomachenko isn't heavy handed but he's exciting and aggressive when he sees an opening. He will probably become a super boring fighter if he moves up in weight the way Floyd did. In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed. I guarantee people like Hype Job, Beercules, and Tay Rock stay on his balls though. It's only a certain type of fighter they bash for using boxing skills and ring IQ.

Loma's work rate could certainly use improvement. A lot of times he just stops throwing for no real reason. He will stop throwing even when not being pressured or after he lands a nice combo he won't follow through. He's a great talent that I can see taking it to an even higher level if he gets a better killer instinct. He's not overhyped at all. Dude is legit.

Lomachenko has power. He just doesn't sit on every punch he throws. And his corner wants him to get work in, which means he can't sit on every punch. He toyed with his last opponent. Anyone who thinks he didn't do that on purpose doesn't know sh1t about boxing. Ya that might be, theres a video of Robert Garcia questioning his killer instinct, because he says when he spared in his gym he was knocking out everybody some that were WW's.

Lomachenko has power. He just doesn't sit on every punch he throws. And his corner wants him to get work in, which means he can't sit on every punch. He toyed with his last opponent. Anyone who thinks he didn't do that on purpose doesn't know sh1t about boxing.

I don't like the way he responded when he got hit with low blows. Kovalev would have beheaded the guy and I like that in a fighter. These aren't Gentleman Jim boxing days. If he beats Walters then he should be in top ten P4P. In his last fight Rodriguez started going low and Lomachenko hit him low back it was good to see him learning. I remember Tszyu initially had the gentleman approach when he first turned pro but learned quickly just watch the MAG fight. He reminds me of Eminem: talented but a great deal of hypocrisy where he is concerned. People will hate a particular style, but when a certain type of person implements it it becomes acceptable. You have so many people hating hiphop but when love Eminem. You have so many people hating pitty pat punches and a methodical approach, but they love Lomanchenko. I wonder why. Lulz becuase Lomachenko fights like Lara, Rigo, Floyd. He's a front foot fighter who regularly pressures, aggressively attacks while throwing combinations and has supurb defense while doing it. He is not a counter punching runner who refuses to lead or engage.

He reminds me of Eminem: talented but a great deal of hypocrisy where he is concerned. People will hate a particular style, but when a certain type of person implements it it becomes acceptable. You have so many people hating hiphop but when love Eminem. You have so many people hating pitty pat punches and a methodical approach, but they love Lomanchenko. I wonder why. Who are you watching? He might not have power but he's an incredible offensive fighter and throws with bad intentions.

no just the blacks hate him for some reason. so they always talking ish. http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af6/getrealman09/61545DC7-597C-4BE2-8A14-744AA90ED90B_zpskcekm7yk.jpg

He reminds me of Eminem: talented but a great deal of hypocrisy where he is concerned. People will hate a particular style, but when a certain type of person implements it it becomes acceptable. You have so many people hating hiphop but when love Eminem. You have so many people hating pitty pat punches and a methodical approach, but they love Lomanchenko. I wonder why. You likely just see what you want to see. Lomachenko isn't heavy handed but he's exciting and aggressive when he sees an opening. He will probably become a super boring fighter if he moves up in weight the way Floyd did. In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed.

Nah all the "Floyd's replacement" guys are the most hyped. Thurman, Brook etc. You literally need 1 or 2 "name" wins at welterweight and then you become God because the casuals whack off to that division. The zillion guys with better resumes at lighter and heavier weights?="random bums".

He reminds me of Eminem: talented but a great deal of hypocrisy where he is concerned. People will hate a particular style, but when a certain type of person implements it it becomes acceptable. You have so many people hating hiphop but when love Eminem. You have so many people hating pitty pat punches and a methodical approach, but they love Lomanchenko. I wonder why.

Well, the thing is Loma is very good at switching up his punches... He'll throw pitty-pat punches and then come through with a power punch, he uses them to set things up which is smart (Loma is a much different fighter than GGG or Kovalev... Loma is a white version of that rare combination of 1 and million athlete talent with a life-time of built up and carefully honed skill (like Ward or Roy jones or Mayweather or Rigo)... I really, really, really hope Rigo/Loma happens after the Walters fight... Watch Rigo fight... He'll paw that jab out and then fire off a powerful one-two... Rigo is so good that he will REHEARSE the exact combo he's going to do, then he'll actually execute it, and his opponent is still surprised(when the punches land) because his timing and speed is that good... Now, imagine Loma and Rigo, both with great timing and speed, having to carefully measure each other out... Yeah, it wouldn't be Provo-Mattys... but both guys would want to MAKE SURE that they're winning on points at least... I guess it's possible that they would both be so good as to neutralize a lot of each other's offense/defense, leaving us with a fight in which few punches are landed... Or maybe realizing this, Loma takes a chance on his superior power and takes bigger risks down the stretch... and similarly, Maybe Rigo, realizing for the first time he's not CLEARLY winning on points, takes a risk himself... So pissed that Arum got rid of/let Rigo go... and kept Donaire... Donaire gets his ass handed to him by Rigo, then gets dropped by Walters...and still he's on the Top Rank/HBO team... In what world does Lomachenko have more power than Rigo?

you are twisting my words or you comprehension is not that sharp, I didn't say you say, I only reply to your post and yes the competition in the wsb is better than a guy that just start in the professional, they build their record with nobodies, they use 10oz gloves which is less than the amateur and only 2oz more for some weight class if I recall correctly, but the biggest difference is that they don't use headgear and they fight 4 three minutes rounds, not 3-3 or 4-2, so if you want to say that he didn't have the experience is up to you, I do beleive that the series is preparing the boxers for a better transition to the professionals... It sounded like you were implying that I didn't think the WSB competition was good. If not then why did you bring that point up, because it had nothing to do with what I said before, you just came out and said, "Actually you are fighting better boxers in the wsb than in the professional ranks". When I never mentioned anything about the level of opposition in the WSB compared to professional ranks early in a boxers career, all I said was that he was competing against other amateur boxers. Of course the WSB experience is better than what other prospects are competiting when they begin their careers; they are fighting top amateurs from around the world after all. You're not even making points. You're basically trying to descredit Loma's accomplishment of winning a title in his third bout, equaling the record. The WSB is similar to professional boxing, but there is differences and that's why they don't count them in a boxers (who competed at the WSB) record. Even if they are just minor differences, apparently those differences are enough. If not there would be several prospects with defeats in their records already.

He is undoubtedly special. I love watching him fight. But he has many tests ahead of him before being considered p4p. So far, i think he is amazing. Not really overhyped considering what he has achieved in so few fights.

When did I say his competition at the WSB wasn't good? So you're basically saying that amateur boxing is also professional boxing now? In amateur boxing they use the 10 point system, it's basically like the WSB. They fight 3 three minute rounds, no headgear; the only difference, just like the WSB, they just use even bigger gloves. I'm not saying that the WSB didn't prepare him for the professionals, the whole reason why Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk did the WSB is to get a feel of professional boxing against elite amateurs. You're wrong about the Thai fighter winning a belt in his first fight. Only 3 fighters fought for a belt in their pro debut and they were not successful: Pete Rademacher, Jack Skelly, Rafael Lovera. Loma tied the record with a Thai fighter, unless you want to count his WSB fights. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to come out as an A-hole or anything. If you have some info, I'll be more than happy to read up on it.you are twisting my words, I didn't say you say, I only reply to your post and yes the competition in the wsb is better than a guy that just start in the professional, they build their record with nobodies,in the wsb they use 10oz gloves which is less than the amateur and only 2oz more for some weight class if I recall correctly, but the biggest difference is that they don't use headgear and they fight 4 three minutes rounds, not 3-3 or 4-2, I do beleive that the series is preparing the boxers for a better transition to the professionals... And the most important point is, they are getting pay to fight, that is what make them professionals. I can't recall right now but a Thai fighter won a belt on his first try, he was a muay thai world champ, Ill do the research and let you know.