Degale won but it was a very close fight when I first watched it. Lots of swing rounds. I'm watching the HD version today so I'll re-score it and see if it looks different on second viewing.
First time around to me it seemed that Degale's activity dropped considerably during mid-rounds because he was hesitant to commit due to Dirrell's counters. But at the same time, although Dirrell was on the front foot, he was also waiting for Degale to commit in order to counter him. Dirrell gave the impression of being more active mid-rounds with the front foot stance, "backing up" Degale (or could be seen as Degale boxing on the backfoot), and popping out the jab fairly often. see if things get clearer on 2nd viewing.
Just being on the front foot and giving an impression are not scoring criteria.
If that were the case, Dirrell should have been docked points for following and not cutting the ring off.
I think it was a close fight. Degale was frustrating to watch at times with the inactivity.
I was supporting Degale, but I don't think the fight was wide. . . I do think Degale wasn't really troubled by Dirrell, but his output was just so low that he allowed Dirrell back into the fight, which is what made it close.
Dirrell was getting a lot of credit for punching gloves.
That KD had me out of my seat. Dirrell was done, if that round lasted 15 more seconds he wouldn't have survived.
there wasn't actually that much action in the fight so you have to weigh up dirrell's ring generalship against degale's effective aggression. for defence they were both pretty much equal, generally making the other miss but occasionally suffering lapses. i think i gave degale the first four or five rounds and the last two, plus one knockdown, which is a clear win for him, but he didn't do himself any favours giving away all of the late-middle rounds
The fight was competitive but degale clearly won ... I don't know how somebody can give it to dirrell without completely ignoring everything degale did. Dirrell landed sh*t all of note.
Honestly can't see how anyone could have Dirrell winning that fight.
Degale clearly won 5/6 opening rounds + 3 points in one round. If he avoids a KD for the rest of the fight, he wins even if losing every subsequent round. Which he did and didn't.
Clear win for Degale by a couple of points or 3-4.
Just rewatched it, Degale won the fight by a wider margin than I originally thought. Dirrell missed quite a lot of punches so for his slightly higher activity he wasnt scoring as effectively as Degale .
Some of the close rounds I gave to Degale like Round 7. NBC made it seem as if Dirrells fast combos won him the round but most of the shots hit gloves or were slipped. Degale did the more effective work in that round even though Dirrell backed him up to the ropes and threw flashy combos a few times.
So overall, very good fight in parts, Degale was still a little inactive mid-rounds but not as inactive as I thought on first view. Dirrell wasn't as active as I thought either. Their activity level wasn't too far apart overall.
Degale clear winner, Dirrell did well to recover and get himself back in the fight after the early knockdown. Great effort and performance from both fighters.
For me if you are very generous, Dirrell got a draw, they were some tight rounds to score, but Degale won by 1/2 rounds.
For Dirrell to win he had to convincingly win the last two rounds, he didnt, and arguably lost both of them.
you would have to practically ignore everything Degale did to give Dirrel the win
And you would have to give every swing round to Dirrel to have it a draw
114-112 or 115-111 are the most accurate scorecards
Just finished watching it again
Close fight but Still think Dirrell won.
Kind of glad Degeale won though because I'm loving all the s.h.it talking he's been doing since getting W
I thought Degale got very inactive in the mid rounds and gave Dirrell some hope, almost let Dirrell back in the fight, but it was Degale's fight to lose. He did enough in the championship rounds to Win. Though I feel the 117-109 score was way too wide.
I thought Dirrell edged it, but I understand why Degale got the victory due to the dramatic 2nd round.
I always wondered why no one ever talked to Dirrell about his habit to put his hands down when throwing or moving backwards. Many of his opponents have taken advantage of it.
its been talked about a lot actually. Watched Dirrell vs Froch/Abraham in the last week and it was a major talking point.
NBC missed so many right hooks from DeGale, shocking bias
Bias? Then what about the Brit commentators giving Degale 1 or 2 points, but not being certain he even won? And, they criticized him heavily in the mid to late rounds. I guess the Brits were biased against him too? Because everything you don't like or understand in biased?
I thought Dirrell edged it, but I understand why Degale got the victory due to the dramatic 2nd round.
I always wondered why no one ever talked to Dirrell about his habit to put his hands down when throwing or moving backwards. Many of his opponents have taken advantage of it.
I'm going to watch the fight again, as it was not a bad fight at all. It was disappointing to see Degale not engage more and only look for that left hook over and over. You can tell he was just waiting for Dirrell to gas and for him to recover his own stamina he lossed in that 2nd round.
Degale won but it was a very close fight when I first watched it. Lots of swing rounds. I'm watching the HD version today so I'll re-score it and see if it looks different on second viewing.
First time around to me it seemed that Degale's activity dropped considerably during mid-rounds because he was hesitant to commit due to Dirrell's counters. But at the same time, although Dirrell was on the front foot, he was also waiting for Degale to commit in order to counter him. Dirrell gave the impression of being more active mid-rounds with the front foot stance, "backing up" Degale (or could be seen as Degale boxing on the backfoot), and popping out the jab fairly often. see if things get clearer on 2nd viewing.