GGG looked sloppy on the inside and looked like his conditioning was off.
He crushed Monroe but the fight was razor thin on my card. Monroe's stock went up hugely.
"No way in hell" is a bit of a stretch. Monroe managed to win 3 - possibly even 4 rounds before getting knocked down multiple times and ultimately stopped. GGG has a lot of momentum right now, and his punching power is a game-changer, but I'd still favor Ward in that fight, he's the bigger man, more technically sound, and has deceptive punching power.
3 or 4 rounds? Uhhh what fight were you watching exactly. I gave him one round....maybe two but that is stretching it. He got outlanded in basically every round and was trading little shots where GGG was landing much bigger, cleaner punches. He did do a good job though, snapping his head back a few times and landing some nice body shots.
neither was benard hopkins.
Out of 20 defenses you probably only know 4 of the fighters he beat. And 2 of them were blown up welterweights.
Hopkins reign at middleweight is about the same as ggg.
Hopkins just got tito and oscar
ggg hopes too get cotto and canelo
ding ding ding we have a winner.
The Andre Ward fron a couple years ago woyld have beaten GGG, but now he might not be the same fighter. We have to see after his first couple comeback bouts.
Let's be real. At the moment we don't know who would win. We don't know if Ward is still the same boxer he was. We don't know how Golovkin will handle the step up in weight. We don't know how Golovkin will handle the step up in class.
The only we can really know for sure that should this fight happen now whoever wins will in no way get the credit they deserve.
Ward deserves a couple of warm-up matches just to prove to himself he still has the skills and the heart to win. He deserves the opportunity to enter the ring fully physically and mentally prepared.
Likewise, Golovkin deserves a fight at 168 to prepare himself too. He'll need to be at his best to beat Ward.
Both Golovkin and Ward deserve to be at their best for this fight. I believe Ward will win by a close unanimous decision.
Unfortunately few people here want to hear that. Few people here want to see the best boxers fight each other at their best. They want the favourite boxers given every advantage they can get and those they hate hamstrung and crippled. Honestly, I'm embarrassed for some of you.
He wanted to KO Monroe as quick as possible.
I really doubt Ward beats Golovkin the way you described it, to beat him you have to back him up and make him respect your power.
You have to bully the bully.
Ward also bullied Froch, a tough bastard with a durable chin who is also a natural smw and probably better on the inside than GGG. So I can see Ward bully Golovkin. Horrible style matchup for Golovkin.
Can't say that I agree, Floyd hasn't really taken much damage in his career. Though granted, he's no longer the Floyd that fought Castillo. He can possibly embarrass GGG too, but we all know it ain't gonna happen.
Its not about damage its about time at this level , Floyds assets are his speed reflex timing and accuracy those assets have slipped a lot over the last 2 yrs and in boxing those are the first assets to go so he has been remarkable to last this long .
I mean its not his fault the guys he fought couldnt do anything with him and sooner or later you get old , I see Floyd has got old to the point he cant push the boundary's like a young man , I think he should finish out at WW thats his division its very hot and hope he goes out with a top WW .
I dont like seeing old greats get beat up because they are handicapped out of the fight , casual fans wont get that but I was around in Ali days I seen the hate the slurs of chicken runner etc I hated every second of the Holmes beating , I think the same will happen with Floyd where he is better appreciated long after he is gone when they see how hard it is to do what has has done .
And I dont believe the TBE BS thats just marketing hype , but I dont believe Robinson is a great as he is made out , he fought over a 100 bums I reckon Hagler Hearns Leonard would give any of them a run and so would Floyd who is very underestimated how good he is because of his defensive style .
I,ll stop as Im rambling of topic .
Floyd is dropping all his belts and looking at a farewell fight after a great career , I would have liked to see the Floyd that fought Oscar fight GGG but he is too far gone to be giving so much weight away to young elite fighters , its unreasonable to expect it as Floyd has slipped a mile from his best form .
Can't say that I agree, Floyd hasn't really taken much damage in his career. Though granted, he's no longer the Floyd that fought Castillo. He can possibly embarrass GGG too, but we all know it ain't gonna happen.
No way in hell is GGG even expected to beat Ward at when he's moving up in weight 8lbs to 168.
No way in hell would GGG even be the favorite if he faced GGG.
And mind you, Ward's next tune up fight is at 172lbs & not 168. Just wait & watch if Ward can even make 168lbs after his next bout or not.
I***39;ll say it again best defense against GGG is not Cuba school but a solid chin and non-stop offense #GolovkinMonroe— Tureano Johnson (@Tureano1984) May 17, 2015
Agreed with this. And one of the most ballsy fighters in the sport who fits that description, plus has a size advantage in Froch, doesn't even want to fight him.
At least Manny dropped the 154 belt since he couldn't defend it. Apparently Floyd will drop it soon too, but until he does, he's still the champ at 154.
Floyd is dropping all his belts and looking at a farewell fight after a great career , I would have liked to see the Floyd that fought Oscar fight GGG but he is too far gone to be giving so much weight away to young elite fighters , its unreasonable to expect it as Floyd has slipped a mile from his best form .
Floyds a 39 yr old WW go at 147 , and at 154 Floyd would probably beat him but at his age and stage of his career its a lame challenge from GGG .
If you were consistent you would be credible but seeing as Manny cant even fight a WW after holding a 154 belt and you were fine with all that and then GGG cant fight at 168 because he is MW you are fine with all that , its just obvious that your mindset with Floyd is pure BS and you are probably the biggest proven idiot on the site .
At least Manny dropped the 154 belt since he couldn't defend it. Apparently Floyd will drop it soon too, but until he does, he's still the champ at 154.
Let's wait and see what Andre Ward weighs in at fight night against Smith. If it's well over 180, like 185 or something, I don't think GGG should be obligated to fight him.
That won't apply to Ward though. We all know that.
Who's got the chin and the nonstop offense to beat GGG at 160? Easier said than done.
Cotto may still have both...but he's not really a 160.
Canelo is close enough in weight but he doesn't have "nonstop offense."
Didn't he say he would drop to 154, the division where Floyd holds a belt? Yeah....scary I know, but lets not toss facts out of the window now. :boxing:
Floyds a 39 yr old WW go at 147 , and at 154 Floyd would probably beat him but at his age and stage of his career its a lame challenge from GGG .
If you were consistent you would be credible but seeing as Manny cant even fight a WW after holding a 154 belt and you were fine with all that and then GGG cant fight at 168 because he is MW you are fine with all that , its just obvious that your mindset with Floyd is pure BS and you are probably the biggest proven idiot on the site .
Weebler why do you want to see a 150lb fighter vs a 170lb fighter? That's a 20lb difference.
Golovkin vs Ward would be like 4-5lbs apart on fight night. Ward vs Kovalev would be 10lbs apart.
GGG vs Ward is one of the fairest fights, weight-size, that can happen in boxing today other than Mayweather vs Pacquiao II. Kovalev came in at 189lbs in his last 2 fights.
Let's wait and see what Andre Ward weighs in at fight night against Smith. If it's well over 180, like 185 or something, I don't think GGG should be obligated to fight him.
"no way in hell" is a bit of a stretch. Monroe managed to win 3 - possibly even 4 rounds before getting knocked down multiple times and ultimately stopped. Ggg has a lot of momentum right now, and his punching power is a game-changer, but i'd still favor ward in that fight, he's the bigger man, more technically sound, and has deceptive punching power.
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I***39;ll say it again best defense against GGG is not Cuba school but a solid chin and non-stop offense #GolovkinMonroe— Tureano Johnson (@Tureano1984) May 17, 2015
"No way in hell" is a bit of a stretch. Monroe managed to win 3 - possibly even 4 rounds before getting knocked down multiple times and ultimately stopped. GGG has a lot of momentum right now, and his punching power is a game-changer, but I'd still favor Ward in that fight, he's the bigger man, more technically sound, and has deceptive punching power.
No he didn't. Case closed.