Official Walters-Marriaga & Verdejo-Najera Poll Thread & Discussion

Saturday 13 June 2015 Madison Square Garden Theater, New York, New York, USA commission: New York State Athletic Commission promoter: Bob Arum (Top Rank) matchmaker: Brad Goodman television: USA HBO WBA Super World Featherweight Championship Nicholas "Axeman" Walters http://contents.spin.ph/image/nonito-donaire-walters-3.jpg Age: 29 Height: 5' 7" Reach: 73" Stance: Orthodox From: Montego Bay, Jamaica Record: 25W(21KOs)-0L VS Miguel "The Scorpion" Marriaga http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/4/4d/MiguelMarriaga.jpg/300px-MiguelMarriaga.jpg Age: 27 Height: 5' 7" Reach: ??? Stance: Orthodox From: Cartagena, Colombia Record: 20W(18KOs)-0L WBO Latino Lightweight Championship Felix "El Diamante" Verdejo https://boxingpulse.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/553116_550794881598680_1328533144_n.jpg?w=350 Age: 22 Height: 5' 9" Reach: 71 1/2" Stance: Orthodox From: San Juan, Puerto Rico Record: 17W(13KOs)-0L VS Ivan "Bam Bam" Najera http://www.toprank.com/uploaded_files/images/fighters/i_1625b97a28d764292f240c9897cdecceNajera-1.jpg Age: 22 Height: 5' 5" Reach: 67" Stance: Orthodox From: San Antonio, Texas Record: 16W(8KOs)-0L

Comments (20)

LA_2_Vegas

Crawford is at 140 now, no? I think that would be too much. FNWeight should not be an issue if the two fighters are of the same physical attributes and campaign at the same weight class. It's an issue when the bigger fighter is just as good as you, taller, more used to the higher weight class, etc. Crawford and Walters are very similar in physical appearance as far as height and reach, but I think Crawford being in the 150s on FN, and probably being as good or even better than Walters would be too much. I know you said put weight aside but Crawford is really good and his weight will matter against smaller fighters who are not better than him. Yeah man, it's hard to put the weight issue to the side once you imagine the punches landing. I guess I just really like the skill set Walters would bring to a fight like that - I'd like to see him put in over his head.

10y ago

FrankieClutch

My podcast for the fights!

10y ago

Public_Enemy

I still don't understand what all the booing was about. It seemed like only a few people but it was still very weird for a fight that was far from boring. Honestly, it was very aggravating to listen to. If you find yourself booing this type of fight, boxing may not be for you.

10y ago

Kev

Kev single handedly smacking posters around in this thread lol. Bring on Loma vs the Axe man. That's a ton of skill, speed, size, and power in the ring baby! These GGG fangirls are out of control these days, gotta Sweet Chin Music them one by one.

10y ago

SkillspayBills

Kev single handedly smacking posters around in this thread lol. Bring on Loma vs the Axe man. That's a ton of skill, speed, size, and power in the ring baby!

10y ago

Kev

Also: When a fighter is small at the scales, that's a different story. Floyd, Cotto are small at the scales. Keep em coming.

10y ago

Kev

I see you don't have principles at all, when talking about Floyd vs GGG you have a totally different opinion :) Kinda exposed yourself here. whether they are a WW coming at 170lbs, or 165, or 158 Didn't realize GGG was a WW. When I said that example, I was talking about fighters in the same weight class. Sorry but Floyd's last fight was at 147, GGG is a MW. Also, look at my other post where I speak to physical attributes being similar. They are not similar.

10y ago

Jubei

That rarely happens at the top level. People have to suck it up and move on. If a fighter is great, he'd beat any fighter, whether they are a WW coming at 170lbs, or 165, or 158, a great smaller fighter will beat a good bigger fighter. When a fighter is small at the scales, that's a different story. I see you don't have principles at all, when talking about Floyd vs GGG you have a totally different opinion :) Kinda exposed yourself here.

10y ago

Kev

That's funny considering your stance on Mayweather-GGG. --------------------------------- Marriaga has ATG chin status. Him and Garcia eat bombs for breakfast. It's funny? Okay, Let's see GGG come down to 147 like I said in my post.

10y ago

BattleAxePurist

I want to see Walters vs Crawford now - who do u guys think has the edge based on style (put weight to the side) Crawford..... it would be similar to Dulorme tactical fight neither having an advantage then Crawford would catch him and finish him.

10y ago

arraamis

That rarely happens at the top level. People have to suck it up and move on. If a fighter is great, he'd beat any fighter, whether they are a WW coming at 170lbs, or 165, or 158, a great smaller fighter will beat a good bigger fighter. When a fighter is small at the scales, that's a different story. As you stated in your previous post - There are only a few fighters (Manny & Floyd) where weight doesn't make much of a difference - They are exceptions to the rule that a good big guy always beat a good little guy. Other non-elite fighters will have problems if the weight disadvantage overcomes their skill advantage.

10y ago

mathed

Walters can still even dominate LW too

10y ago

Kev

I want to see Walters vs Crawford now - who do u guys think has the edge based on style (put weight to the side) Crawford is at 140 now, no? I think that would be too much. FNWeight should not be an issue if the two fighters are of the same physical attributes and campaign at the same weight class. It's an issue when the bigger fighter is just as good as you, taller, more used to the higher weight class, etc. Crawford and Walters are very similar in physical appearance as far as height and reach, but I think Crawford being in the 150s on FN, and probably being as good or even better than Walters would be too much. I know you said put weight aside but Crawford is really good and his weight will matter against smaller fighters who are not better than him.

10y ago

arraamis

I want to see Walters vs Crawford now - who do u guys think has the edge based on style (put weight to the side) That would be an intense, very good fight and I don't know who I would choose. Because they are equally proficient, skillful and strong.

10y ago

flat1985

Impressed with the other fighter but Walters is an animal he is gonna be very hard to beat

10y ago

PlasterWraps

That rarely happens at the top level. People have to suck it up and move on. If a fighter is great, he'd beat any fighter, whether they are a WW coming at 170lbs, or 165, or 158, a great smaller fighter will beat a good bigger fighter. That's funny considering your stance on Mayweather-GGG. --------------------------------- Marriaga has ATG chin status. Him and Garcia eat bombs for breakfast.

10y ago

Jubei

Walters looked soo much bigger than that dude.. time to move up, hopefully the top fights can still be made soon against Vasyli and others. Walters would destroy LSC, vs Vasly its a pick em fight.

10y ago

LA_2_Vegas

I want to see Walters vs Crawford now - who do u guys think has the edge based on style (put weight to the side)

10y ago

Kev

Yeah, Walters wanted a stacked fight against a very good opponent that beat him years ago. Boxing's achilles heel is allowing guys to blow-up out-of-weight-class overnight and not having same-day weigh-ins. I would have liked to see these two fight at the SAME WEIGHT:boxing: That rarely happens at the top level. People have to suck it up and move on. If a fighter is great, he'd beat any fighter, whether they are a WW coming at 170lbs, or 165, or 158, a great smaller fighter will beat a good bigger fighter. When a fighter is small at the scales, that's a different story.

10y ago

SkillspayBills

WTF they didn't even bother interviewing the Main Event fighter?

10y ago