Pacquaio can take a book out of Kirklands book.

ah ok NOT hit with one clean punch, so then, why didn't he just walk through these grazing shots? Floyd his with his pillow gloves. What he should have done was cut off the ring ,like a better boxer would, who has better footwork than and walk though his glancing punches and deliver that left hand. I mean all he needed to do is just need to box better than him, and walk though all these glancing pillow puff punches that don't don't hurt because their not landing clean... . . . NOT LANDING CLEAN. Well then... Maybe Manny's got no self respect. He actually hates all of his supporters, and wasn't answering Gods texts. His shoulder is just fine but he wants a vacation, because he just got his debt to 0... #realityimpaired Mayweather has great defense. He does enough to keep his distance. Move or grab when threatened. It is not easy to just run right at him and get at him. He'll move and get you off balanced or grab you. I don't really think Pacquiao or Canelo were afraid of Mayweather's punch. They both just knew you can't straight ahead attack because he won't stand still and you'll get out of position. However, why is there no burden placed on Mayweather to land hard effective punches? He landed few on Pacquiao or Canelo. It just seems the burden is on everyone else to pin him down and KO him, if not, and that is a difficult assignment, he'll win by a landslide. People are not looking at the quality of Mayweather's punching with scrutiny. He is poking out a light touch jab most of the time that just hits gloves. He misses a lot more than observers seem to notice. Mayweather doesn't have much of a punch. His hands are brutalized and he can't do it.

Wrong, that's not the proper expression although it still makes sense. http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/take+a+leaf+out+of+book Haha good looks, I swear I've never heard that before

Is it? I thought it was "page of his book"? Wrong, that's not the proper expression although it still makes sense. http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/take+a+leaf+out+of+book

Completely different situations. I remember Pacquiao being pretty humble after JMM IV edit: Just remember lucky punch gate. Pacs team are cunts, Pac himself was pretty humble lol It's pretty hard to have an excuse when you get KO'd like that...

Hats off to mandingo for keeping it classy and not making excuses on why he lost And i believe its take a page out of kirklands book...

Completely different situations. I remember Pacquiao being pretty humble after JMM IV edit: Just remember lucky punch gate. Pacs team are cunts, Pac himself was pretty humble lol Pac and his team have a history of not taking losses well. He lost to Morales it was because he gave blood too close to the fight and he wasn't wearing his gloves. Marquez, it was a lucky punch and Roach said Marquez was on roids and should have been tested. Now with Floyd it was an injury.

Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights. Agreed the first time I had Floyd winning 8-4 after seeing it again without sound I had the might much closer, it would of gone either way. A lot of punches that compubox counted as lands didn't even land on Pacquiao. The 10-2 scorecard is a joke. There were so many swing rounds in the fight neither guy did nothing in the rounds but Floyd got every swing round.

O great, so what after every post fight we have to compare it to what Pacquaio did. Get a life move on

Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights. ah ok NOT hit with one clean punch, so then, why didn't he just walk through these grazing shots? Floyd his with his pillow gloves. What he should have done was cut off the ring ,like a better boxer would, who has better footwork than and walk though his glancing punches and deliver that left hand. I mean all he needed to do is just need to box better than him, and walk though all these glancing pillow puff punches that don't don't hurt because their not landing clean... . . . NOT LANDING CLEAN. Well then... Maybe Manny's got no self respect. He actually hates all of his supporters, and wasn't answering Gods texts. His shoulder is just fine but he wants a vacation, because he just got his debt to 0... #realityimpaired

I believe the expression is "a leaf out of his book." Is it? I thought it was "page of his book"?

Yes Kirkland was quite classy and gracious in his defeat to Canelo. He didn't make any excuses. He basically said that the better man won and because of that I commend him for it. At first I was willing to give Pac the benefit of the doubt when he said that he thought he had won the fight because it was easier for him to do so. For instance, he was the one chasing Floyd around the ring throughout much of the night and wasn't knocked out or at anytime seriously hurt or in danger of being stopped by him. He was just simply outclassed by him. However, later on he changed his tune at the post fight news conference and conceded that he had indeed lost the fight to Mayweather. He made many convenient excuses about an alleged torn rotator cuff he suffered three weeks prior, which he never complained about either during or before the fight and as a result has caused many boxing and casual fans alike to turn on him and lose a lot of respect for him in the process. This.... first its I won the fight, then it's I wouldve won had it not been for my badly injured surgery:boxing:

I believe the expression is "a leaf out of his book."

Yes Kirkland was quite classy and gracious in his defeat to Canelo. He didn't make any excuses. He basically said that the better man won and because of that I commend him for it. At first I was willing to give Pac the benefit of the doubt when he said that he thought he had won the fight because it was easier for him to do so. For instance, he was the one chasing Floyd around the ring throughout much of the night and wasn't knocked out or at anytime seriously hurt or in danger of being stopped by him. He was just simply outclassed by him. However, later on he changed his tune at the post fight news conference and conceded that he had indeed lost the fight to Mayweather. He made many convenient excuses about an alleged torn rotator cuff he suffered three weeks prior, which he never complained about either during or before the fight and as a result has caused many boxing and casual fans alike to turn on him and lose a lot of respect for him in the process.

other than round 4 & 6 theres a good argument that Manny didn't win a single other round. Mayweather won that fight clearly and outhrew/outlanded the busy 'machine' pacquaio. Go rewatch pacquaios prefight workout in vegas its on youtube, trains hard for over an hour throwing the right hand like a beast, after the fight he was soo injured he could hardly use his right hand, yeahhhhhhh sure buddy I've watched the fight closely. Mayweather doesn't impress me nearly as much as he impresses you and other people. I'm not convincing you and you are not changing my mind. Mayweather did not punch very effectively from my point of view. I saw the fight as close. Pacquiao punched more effectively. I think Mayweather gets more credit that he deserves because he is an ATG and people remember how great he was, and exaggerate what he is doing presently to prop up his fading reputation. Fading reputation? Pacquaio was coming off dominant performances over undefeated tim Bradley and chris algieri where he looked every bit as good as manny of old, people love to bash on mayweather because of his personality outside of the sport but in the ring he will go down as a top5atg having just beat another top10atg and having several top100atgs in his resume(mosley, cotto, delahoya). The best of the next generation is considered canelo, the best of this generation was considered pacquaio, and the best of the previous generation was considered mosley, Mayweather beat them all clearly and established his dominance

Completely different situations. I remember Pacquiao being pretty humble after JMM IV edit: Just remember lucky punch gate. Pacs team are cunts, Pac himself was pretty humble lol

sort of a moot point, rd's 4 & 6 were bigger rounds than any of the rest of the rounds in the fight, if those are the only rounds you can see for pacquiao then is the only way you can have him winning is if if he's hurting and beating the sht outta floyd every round? Go back and watch round 4 right now, beating the sh1t out of him? lmao pacquaio flurries for about 90seconds and literally nothing happens the rest of the round other than Floyd landing flush jabs. He iwns the round because the flurry was nice and looks like he hurt Floyd but he did not beat in any way shape of form, Floyd was coming forward later in the same round lmao

QUOTE=NEELZ;15671288]Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights. other than round 4 & 6 theres a good argument that Manny didn't win a single other round. Mayweather won that fight clearly and outhrew/outlanded the busy 'machine' pacquaio. Go rewatch pacquaios prefight workout in vegas its on youtube, trains hard for over an hour throwing the right hand like a beast, after the fight he was soo injured he could hardly use his right hand, yeahhhhhhh sure buddy I've watched the fight closely. Mayweather doesn't impress me nearly as much as he impresses you and other people. I'm not convincing you and you are not changing my mind. Mayweather did not punch very effectively from my point of view. I saw the fight as close. Pacquiao punched more effectively. I think Mayweather gets more credit that he deserves because he is an ATG and people remember how great he was, and exaggerate what he is doing presently to prop up his fading reputation.

Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights. other than round 4 & 6 theres a good argument that Manny didn't win a single other round. Mayweather won that fight clearly and outhrew/outlanded the busy 'machine' pacquaio. Go rewatch pacquaios prefight workout in vegas its on youtube, trains hard for over an hour throwing the right hand like a beast, after the fight he was soo injured he could hardly use his right hand, yeahhhhhhh sure buddy sort of a moot point, rd's 4 & 6 were bigger rounds than any of the rest of the rounds in the fight, if those are the only rounds you can see for pacquiao then is the only way you can have him winning is if he's hurting and beating the sht outta floyd every round?

QUOTE=NEELZ;15671288]Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights. other than round 4 & 6 theres a good argument that Manny didn't win a single other round. Mayweather won that fight clearly and outhrew/outlanded the busy 'machine' pacquaio. Go rewatch pacquaios prefight workout in vegas its on youtube, trains hard for over an hour throwing the right hand like a beast, after the fight he was soo injured he could hardly use his right hand, yeahhhhhhh sure buddy

Kirkland was hit by bombs knocked down twice and brutally KOed when it looked like he was possibly seriously hurt. Pacquiao was not hit with hard punches. Many of Mayweather's punches appeared to hit his gloves or miss. He was not damaged and on the second viewing of the fight, I am even more dubious of calling that a clear Mayweather win. There is a vast difference between those fights.