why do freddie roach get all this credit?? his fighters have no defense or skill!

maybe im biased because i like to watch skill fighters insted of face first brawlers who eat punches for breakfast lunch and dinner ,,, but why do this dude get trainer of the year every damn year,,?? tapia has no defense, no skill, provokodov got absolutely zero defense head movement or boxing skill,,, pac was taltened but he cant miss a right hand,, khan attacked with no defense and chin in the air as an invitation to be KO, like a poster said it like he trains these dudes how to attack without expecting to be punched back he always talk bad stuff about fighters but i think he jealous because he was a overrated punch bag with no defense or head movement. Pac "missed" these right hands doe.... http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t170/pnksntdead/Mobile%20Uploads/JiUBFM.gif http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t170/pnksntdead/Mobile%20Uploads/BqUObY.gif Freddie's great. Offensive inclined, for sure so defense is just mainly for setting up offense but the technical advances he's made on Manny from his one-armed days cannot be understated. He was correct about Sr. being useless in the corner too. Sr. Just about panicked during the fight and Floyd pretty much had to calm his own trainer/father down.

Freddie never taught a fighter from ground up. A lot of trainers train kids. I've said this before, if you can teach a kid how to fight, than you can teach anyone. Freddie trained fighters who are already established. The most he can do for his fighters is improve them, like what he did with Pacquiao. I think there are more deserving trainers for trainer of the year awards. I think a lot of his hype comes from his Parkinsons. Without Pacquiao, he's not anything special.

Who are the truly great trainers out there? Sanchez, Hunter, Naz, Sugar Hill, Joel Diaz, Robert Garcia, Beristein, John David Jackson...who? Nacho is probably the best out the bunch, has the credentials, molded hungry young kids, into World Champions. His formula works.

Who are the truly great trainers out there? Sanchez, Hunter, Naz, Sugar Hill, Joel Diaz, Robert Garcia, Beristein, John David Jackson...who?

Everyone knows roach doesn't teach defense, can't build a fighter from the ground up, and is in general an overated trainer. But he is definitely an overachiever

Freddie was badly exposed by the mayweathers. He had no plan and no hope, the joke coach roach.

His run With Manny Pacquiao at the lower weights and higher weights was impressive, Champion in 8 different weight divisions, record will never be broken, or for a while. Actually his run with Amir Khan was impressive, specially the way he was picking apart Judah, and made him quit. Yeah Judah has never lost before. What about Khan's losses? If you credit him for the wins you have to blame him for the losses.

maybe im biased because i like to watch skill fighters insted of face first brawlers who eat punches for breakfast lunch and dinner ,,, but why do this dude get trainer of the year every damn year,,?? tapia has no defense, no skill, provokodov got absolutely zero defense head movement or boxing skill,,, pac was taltened but he cant miss a right hand,, khan attacked with no defense and chin in the air as an invitation to be KO, like a poster said it like he trains these dudes how to attack without expecting to be punched back he always talk bad stuff about fighters but i think he jealous because he was a overrated punch bag with no defense or head movement. You can't teach something you don't know anything about

Freddie Roach is a good trainer but the credit he gets is a lot of hyperbole.

His run With Manny Pacquiao at the lower weights and higher weights was impressive, Champion in 8 different weight divisions, record will never be broken, or for a while. Actually his run with Amir Khan was impressive, specially the way he was picking apart Judah, and made him quit.

Maybe because with his fighters Short comings they still manages to win under him those years? Mind blowing I know.

He is a good trainer but honestly he is very overrated.

They should all just move to Mayweather Boxing Club. :boxing: