http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-sn-boxing-manny-pacquiao-shoulder-surgery-torn-rotator-cuff-20150504-story.html
Uncle Bob states its old, from 2008 during jetski accident....so Pac has fought several times with it....now he gets beat easy and he needs surgery.
Like I said mine is torn I chose rest/therapy, i can do everything right now with my shoulder, but if I needed a out I could go get a MRI and still have a tear.
You mean almost the whole boxing media?
I've read almost everywhere that it was a domination, shut out or whatever you want to call it but not a close fight. So rather you try to spin it your way. Hell even Lederman gave it to 117-111 and even Lampley called it "a clinic". So basically even the HBO guys say that it was a an easy win for Floyd. Do you think if it would be anything closer than a wide UD they wouldn't back Pacquiao?
Do you think Lomachenko and Holyfield would have had Pacquiao winning if it was a wide UD the other way? Would compubox stats indicate that Floyd landed a career low on Pacquiao if it was easy? Would Pacquiao have felt he won the fight if it was a wide UD the other way? (these are all rhetorical questions btw)
HBO were horrible on the night, Lampley presumably stung by criticism that he is pro-Pacquiao was deferential in the extreme.
Just to be clear, I had Floyd winning but all this exaggeration and spin about domination etc, I'm not with.
Its ok a Pacfan reassessed what punches that counted and didnt count, therefore its a close fight to Weebler
Those were compubox stats which indicated a career low.
I've been saying it was a lot closer than was made out from the start, way before that other thread was made.
You mean almost the whole boxing media?
I've read almost everywhere that it was a domination, shut out or whatever you want to call it but not a close fight. So rather you try to spin it your way. Hell even Lederman gave it to 117-111 and even Lampley called it "a clinic". So basically even the HBO guys say that it was a an easy win for Floyd. Do you think if it would be anything closer than a wide UD they wouldn't back Pacquiao? :lol1:
Its ok a Pacfan reassessed what punches that counted and didnt count, therefore its a close fight to Weebler
lol dude dont waste time with floyd fans.... Floyd cant read what can u expect from his followers??
its like when reporters ask questions to floyd
Reporter: "Floyd, are you gonna fight him, walk him down"?
Floyd: "I wanna thank the fans for their support and buy the PPV"
Reporter: "Floyd do you think u have to make adjustments to deal with a southpaw?"
Floyd: "I have beautiful children and im happy with my career"
Calabis has the broner syndrome "its like i cant read either"
Lol this worthless POS poster. Dude trolling Mayweather prior to fight and making racist comments to people who supports Mayweather...trying to jump in with Weebler(a actual good poster with a different view of said situation) go crawl back in ur hole.
Youre just a bitter african american. At least he can read with parkinson unlike 90% of yall. Grow up
Blacks will cry racism till the day they die. Its just the way they are raised. Black ppl are raised with the mentality that they were once slaves to the white ppl so they shouldnt/cant forgive and forget. Thats why most african american posters here only root and support blacks because is a race war for them. not a sport.
To a poster giving props for Crawford for showing composure
OFC you are impressed, he is black.
He knows how to fill a damn form out correctly, that's for sure.
he sure read pac man well enough to time his wild azz when he tried to come in which kept him from fighting his fight....
it was an old injury re-aggravated two weeks before the fight then again during the fight.
He didn't get beat "easy", floms just want to spin it that way, mayweather landed a career low on him, probably even less if you re-assess the compubox stats like one of our posters has kindly done.
floyd was in first gear the whole fight, it was easy
It was an old injury re-aggravated two weeks before the fight then again during the fight.
He didn't get beat "easy", Floms just want to spin it that way, Mayweather landed a career low on him, probably even less if you re-assess the compubox stats like one of our posters has kindly done.
You mean almost the whole boxing media?
I've read almost everywhere that it was a domination, shut out or whatever you want to call it but not a close fight. So rather you try to spin it your way. Hell even Lederman gave it to 117-111 and even Lampley called it "a clinic". So basically even the HBO guys say that it was a an easy win for Floyd. Do you think if it would be anything closer than a wide UD they wouldn't back Pacquiao? :lol1:
lol dude dont waste time with floyd fans.... Floyd cant read what can u expect from his followers??
He knows how to fill a damn form out correctly, that's for sure.
How do I make this clear to you? I didn't say it, he did. You're saying saying he didn't, fine. I'm just telling you what he said.
lol dude dont waste time with floyd fans.... Floyd cant read what can u expect from his followers??
its like when reporters ask questions to floyd
Reporter: "Floyd, are you gonna fight him, walk him down"?
Floyd: "I wanna thank the fans for their support and buy the PPV"
Reporter: "Floyd do you think u have to make adjustments to deal with a southpaw?"
Floyd: "I have beautiful children and im happy with my career"
Calabis has the broner syndrome "its like i cant read either"
He may have tweaked it in camp, but I seriously doubt he did anything to it in the fight or he would have talked about it with his corner. Furthermore, after he told his corner they would have asked him about it several more times the rest of the fight. On top of that, he would have talked about it immediately after the fight in the ring.
This was an old injury that they are using as an excuse in an effort to downplay Pacquiao getting beaten and in order to try to sell a rematch which will still be the most money Roach and Arum can squeeze out of their fighter.
And yet you keep defending it and him, throughout this board. I call bull**** because I have said injury and have first hand exp. with it. Prior to this article I stated it had to be old, because even if he tore it more, no way is he throwing punches in the 4th, 6th and 11th like that......its a excuse to give him a out and a poster like you and the rest of the Pac Clan to claim Pac was a one armed man.
Defending what? I have said multiple times that I don't think the injury made a difference.
How do I make this clear to you? I didn't say it, he did. You're saying saying he didn't, fine. I'm just telling you what he said.
And yet you keep defending it and him, throughout this board. I call bull**** because I have said injury and have first hand exp. with it. Prior to this article I stated it had to be old, because even if he tore it more, no way is he throwing punches in the 4th, 6th and 11th like that......its a excuse to give him a out and a poster like you and the rest of the Pac Clan to claim Pac was a one armed man.
ya it really is just like donaire then. they had an excuse in their back pocket only to be used when he lost. if u guys remember as soon as donaire lost to his daddy rigo the first thing he said was about his shoulder. at the end of the day pac and his team went into the fight with a plan that if he lost they were going to use the shoulder excuse thats the facts. i for one dont think its a good enough excuse for the simple reason if this was any other fighter it would not hold air so why does it hold air for pac? injuries happen in boxing all the time
Well you read more wrestling news than I do, guess he did re-injury it.
I read it because you posted it....and I like to make sure in fact that its what occurred before I post on here. By the way great find on video.
Lol...again he didnt re aggavate ****...but you keep fighting the good fight...smh.
How do I make this clear to you? I didn't say it, he did. You're saying saying he didn't, fine. I'm just telling you what he said.
I know u posted it to prove Manny wrong moron its why I posted it....and from wrestling site he already had a shoulder injury and possible tore it completely hyping crowd
Sami Zayn May Have Injured His Rotator Cuff During His Raw Ring Entrance
BY NATHAN BIRCH • 5/6/2015
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The situation with Sami Zayn has been confusing to say the least. Zayn showed up on Raw as a surprise challenger for John Cena’s U.S. title, but almost as soon as the match started, the ref threw up the dreaded “X,” and Sami was selling his arm for the rest of the match. WWE.com reported that Zayn was legitimately hurt, but the injury played so well into the match, there was some suspicion that the whole thing was a work.
Unfortunately, it seems like the situation is all too real. While WWE hasn’t released an official update yet, numerous sources, including PWInsider, are reporting word inside the company is that Zayn suffered a rotator cuff injury of some kind. Possibly a full rotator cuff tear. Zayn had already taken some time off in March and April for shoulder issues, so he may have re-aggravated or worsened an existing injury.
So, when exactly did Sami get injured? There was no obvious moment in the match. It appears as if he may have injured himself hyping up the crowd before the bout. In the below video, you can see him throwing his arms up, then immediately favoring his shoulder…
Yet Pac tore his more during fight and nada
Well you read more wrestling news than I do, guess he did re-injury it.
http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/657/909/909657.jpg
He said he re-aggravated it, have it out with him not me. The career low was reported by boxingscene.
Lol...again he didnt re aggavate ****...but you keep fighting the good fight...smh.