If Pacquiao had said "NO Mas" PRE-FIGHT would you of called him a coward and ducker?

Anyone who believes Mannys shoulder was hurt should be willing to pay $200 for the next PPV. Manny is well known for calf cramps and in between rounds his corner men massage and stretch the area. At no point in this fight did anyone look at his shoulder nor did Manny gesture to Roach that it was bothering him. I CALL BULL****!!!

The tear would not have taken 10 months to heel, had he had surgery when initially discovered. He aggravated it further by not having proper rest and fighting with it. He would have most likely been ready of Sept 2015, had he had the surgery straight away. I would have been annoying, obviously, but understood the reasoning but than again had it been called off its hard to guess if the fight would have been ever rescheduled.. What pissed me off the most was the disclosure of it and the laissez faire attitude his team seem to have taken to the lead up.

First off... 'No mas' means 'no more'. If Manny had delayed the fight before a punch had been exchanged, that term would not apply. Second... I would have had no objection to a delay in the fight, even a one year delay, if it would have provided fans with the fight they really paid for. But if the fight had been delayed, perhaps the injury would not have required surgery or as long a recovery period as it will require now. Finally: Duran never said the words 'no mas'. That was a media created sensation, no more than that.

$70 million in live tickets have already been bought and paid for. $400 million in PPV had already been bought and paid for. $120 million in bets had already been made. There was already a near 100% occupancy in hotels with prices at several hundred per cent above book value. 500 private jets had already been parked at the main Las Vegas airport, a record. Not to mentioned the time and energy that had already been spent. Pacquiao did the heroic thing by fighting instead of being a chicken. Bob said the injury was 2 1/2 weeks ago-the tickets hadn't gone out. So stop it. Manny fought just to get a check. He did this without any honor, dignity, class or respect for the sport or its fans. Worst of all, he let down his fans who have ridden hard for him. Who believed what he told them. who believed they had finally found a fighter who was about something more. In the end, what we found out that guy was a fabrication. A liar. A classless punk that couldn't admit defeat. Then again, when guys like me told you this was who he was when he made up the Blood drawing excuse after the Morales fight you told us we were haters. Uh huh. Don't allow yourself to be manipulated anymore. Join us real fans Floyd, klit, GGG, Kov, Crawford, Gonzalez, Cotto, even Manny etc etc. and say Manny this was wrong. You shouldn't have hurt the sport the way you did. we are boxing fans and we wont stand for this.

I would have liked the part where it saved me $100. Especially knowing what I know now. If you really understand how difficult it was to make this fight then you understand that it very likely never would have happened if there was a late postponement.

i wish I can sue someone for making me bet a broken horse.. was ok for me that i lose a bet after fight knowing both fighters are 100% ... now with this news.. i bloody felt being cheated :banghead: Im sure you and many others can.

Lmao...only reason Backlash would be huge because Roach and Pacmans camps mouth. According to them he was back to the DLH days, going to destroy Floyd, overwhelm him with speed and power, how great his camp was going...Roach betting SAS with Tom Ford shoes, etc....they talking all this crap knowing their guy is hurt? Gtfoh....what I want to know is where are the Pacfans raging about his admitted use of lidocaine? Pac going to have some Doctor overseas paid off to claim a surgery...probably willing to have DOC cut deep enough to put stitches.

Dude, you look weak and pathetic. Try quoting the whole post and stop parsing it to try and make it something else. Manny compromised his own integrity. Stop blaming Floyd for that. Manny is being judged by his actions. Had he done this, given the stitches and the walk away, he would have gotten some DESERVED backlash. eventually, he would have been forgiven. Not this way. He shamed the sport. He robbed us of a super fight. He lied about a fake injury. WHy should we give him any benefit of the doubt? Have you no self respect? $70 million in live tickets have already been bought and paid for. $400 million in PPV had already been bought and paid for. $120 million in bets had already been made. There was already a near 100% occupancy in hotels with prices at several hundred per cent above book value. 500 private jets had already been parked at the main Las Vegas airport, a record. Not to mentioned the time and energy that had already been spent. Pacquiao did the heroic thing by fighting instead of being a chicken.

As a Floyd fan, I would have been much more pleased if Manny would have just postponed if he does in fact have an injury that requires surgery and possibly a year of recovery. I wouldn't have clowned him at all, had they been transparent and showed he was injured and that he was getting the surgery. If that had happened, then Floyd would have been the one the fans would expect to wait and fight Manny at 100%. Manny cheated his fans and more over boxing, I am not sure I can justify a rematch unless its a Superbowl like event of boxing on network TV for free. That's not hate it's honest, people on both sides paid alot of money and waited a long time, so for manny to not be up front about a possible serious injury before we all dropped 100 on this fight, is a problem.

If Pacquiao Backed Out before the fight - and tortured the boxing world by making all of us (who had waited 6 years for the fight) to wait another long and arduous 10 months (that's March 2016) - would you have called him a coward and ducker? I don't call fighters those kind of names, but Pac's fans certainly haven't helped in that regard. This has to be Glovkin alt. Has to be.

So you would patiently wait for March 2016 without calling Pacquiao names like coward and ducker like all *****s would have? I haven't called anyone a coward (okey maybe leo santa cruz) but if you can find any posts on this forum from me, calling floyd, or pac cowards. . . I'll give you all my points.

This is exactly what Pac Haters would say if Pac backed out with one week left before the fight. Only they'd say it louder. You just proved it. Dude, you look weak and pathetic. Try quoting the whole post and stop parsing it to try and make it something else. Manny compromised his own integrity. Stop blaming Floyd for that. Manny is being judged by his actions. Had he done this, given the stitches and the walk away, he would have gotten some DESERVED backlash. eventually, he would have been forgiven. Not this way. He shamed the sport. He robbed us of a super fight. He lied about a fake injury. WHy should we give him any benefit of the doubt? Have you no self respect?

i wish I can sue someone for making me bet a broken horse.. was ok for me that i lose a bet after fight knowing both fighters are 100% ... now with this news.. i bloody felt being cheated :banghead:

well he's been ducking floyd for the last 5 years or so it wouldn't of made much difference,he went into the fight not caring about people paying for tickets,ppv etc...he's a lying fraud

This is exactly what Pac Haters would say if Pac backed out with one week left before the fight. Only they'd say it louder. You just proved it. Manny can do no wrong man,they would just blame Floyd somehow

Manny never wanted this fight. Bob never wanted this fight. They are scumbags who do not deserve the benefit of the doubt from us. This is exactly what Pac Haters would say if Pac backed out with one week left before the fight. Only they'd say it louder. You just proved it.

Aight i think this is enough This is the most legit question given that people are now demonizing Pac for bravely fighting rather than saying "No mas". If the "no mas" has become Duran's tagline Pac would have suffered a worse fate, especially because it there would have had to be a 10 month wait to March 2016, there would be a big chance the fight gets cancelled when Floyd takes the opportunity to duck it himself.

lol backlash would be HUGE. a few days before the fight? folks already booked their trip, got their tickets, some might already be in Vegas. i won't lie, I would have been pissed.

Who cares. . . I know what though, if I was betting on Pac, and was aware that he was injured before going into the fight, and wouldn't be able to perform with both hands (for a change) . . . I'd be pissed. So you would patiently wait for March 2016 without calling Pacquiao names like coward and ducker like all *****s would have?

Aight i think this is enough