Who do you guys think would win a tournament of:
Walters
Lomachenko
Mares
Russell Jr
Santa Cruz
Gradovich-Selby
This would be one of the most interesting and exciting divisional tourneys that could be made in boxing
My inspiration for this is Mares saying he would love to fight Lomachenko:
Great fighter Lomachenko is .. Great footwork and hand speed ,would love to test my fighting style agains him #TeamMares
Manny people say Lomachenko needs more experience before fighting Walters (and a fight against Veytveka for example, before Walters could only benefit him) BUT.... Is it possible that Walters needs some more experience before fighting Lomachenko?
He destroyed an old Vic, but it was an impressive victory to me because it came out of nowhere and Vic looked great against Donaire in his last fight up until the KO. The Donaire fight was impressive as well but both of these guys were damaged goods, to a certain extent, when Walters fought them.
Lomachenko hasn't fought anyone nearly as explosive and powerful as Walters in his pro career yet, but Walters hasn't fought anyone nearly as all-around talented with youth on their side- as Lomachenko.
In my personal opinion, I feel confident saying Lomachenko beats Walters comfortably at this point with the experience he gained since fighting the cheating Salido..... But my heart will be racing from the opening bell. Not sure I could watch it live, but have to wait for replay and see the result on boxingscene first, to spare my sympathetic nervous system for the duration of the fight
You're not wrong that neither has seen anything like the other, but Loma's inexperience is a much bigger disadvantage than Walters's, at least I think so. Walters 100% knows how to fight like a pro. Loma is still learning.
Every fight Loma takes is still a learning experience, and with every fight it will become harder and harder to beat him. If Walters is thinking to win this fight, he better take it now.
Walters
Lomachenko
Mares
Russell Jr
Santa Cruz
Gradovich-Selby
There is some potentially good fights to be made. It's a good division.
Iv'e got a feeling Selby beats Gradovich. Russell beats Selby, Cruz and Mares. (I'd pick Mares over Cruz).
Leaving Loma and Walters as the top 2. I'd go with Loma but it's a tough fight to predict for me.
might as well just skip the formalities and just make lomachenko-walters at the end of this year, possibly as co-main event for pacquiao's farewell fight.
Who do you guys think would win a tournament of:
Walters
Lomachenko
Mares
Russell Jr
Santa Cruz
Gradovich-Selby
This would be one of the most interesting and exciting divisional tourneys that could be made in boxing
My inspiration for this is Mares saying he would love to fight Lomachenko:
Great fighter Lomachenko is .. Great footwork and hand speed ,would love to test my fighting style agains him #TeamMares— ABNER MARES (@abnermares) May 3, 2015
I think the final would end up being Walters-Lomachenko
^^^^ This assuming the schedules would allow them to meet in the finals. That would suck if they put them against each other in the first match. Haymon boxing doe.
Who do you guys think would win a tournament of:
Walters
Lomachenko
Mares
Russell Jr
Santa Cruz
Gradovich-Selby
This would be one of the most interesting and exciting divisional tourneys that could be made in boxing
My inspiration for this is Mares saying he would love to fight Lomachenko:
I think the final would end up being Walters-Lomachenko
Change that list to include the winner of Mares/Santa Cruz and add Cuellar. I'm impressed with the Argentine so far. Too bad for Lomachenko that all those other guys are on the Haymon side of the fence.
Ugh. I hate posts like this. You clearly have an agenda.....
Lomachenko's defense doesn't seem spectacular? First of all he does have a good defense. I'm not going to even explain why.
Second of all....... What about Walter's? How his defense? Is it spectacular? Is Walter's chin good enough to get clipped by Lomachenko? You're so one-sided it's ridiculous.
OH and Lomachenko is hittable... Right. But Floyd got hit by Robert Guerrero multiple times..... Does his defense suck because he's hittable also? (keep in mind he is even a DEFENSIVE fighter)
:thinking:
I didn't think that I should explain why I don't consider Walters' chin as a big factor in this match up. Loma isn't that big puncher. I don't know who did you watch if you think he is. He is 4-1 with 2 KO wins, how is that so impressive punching power? And Walters actually wore out some shots from Donaire who even if he is faded seems like a stronger puncher than Loma.
You didn't answer me how can be Loma on your P4P list with a 4-1 resume, with Gary Russell as his best win so far and you also didn't answer how you have Klitschko above Mayweather on your P4P list when Mayweather just recently beat Pac, Maidana, Canelo and Guerrero all top 10 guys in probably the best weight class right now (except Canelo who was a SWW at that time, another dtrong weightclass) while Wlad's recent resume is Jennings, Pulev, Leapai and Povetkin in a pretty weak HW division, not to mention the overall resumes of both of them, but okay, I have agendas... Sure thing
Walters needs to get a fight with Gradovich. Small busy fighter and a title he could gain. Gradovich will be game. Russell would be good prep for Walters as well.
Honestly, I want these four champions to fight now.
Mares can be put in the mix surely, but Walters, Gradovich, Lomachenko, and Russell need to get it on!!
Agreed. Honestly I want Lomachenko-Walters NEXT. I hate when fights marinate. But this is actually for once a fight that some marination won't hurt. Neither guy has a lot of experience at the top/as champions.
Also if there was to be ONE more fight for each after June 13th before they fight- Gradovich-Walters and Loma-Veytveka would be perfect. Both Gradovich and Vey are top 10 Featherweights. It will also add to the marination in a good way because both guys would be beating top fighters in the division and it would create even more hype because outside of hardcore fans neither guy is very well-known.
A double-header with those two fights later this year on the same card/same venue would set up one of the best fights in boxing to kick off 2016, IMO.
Loma's defense doesn't seem spectacular, he isn't there to hit, but he is hittable, so... How you know at this point that his chin is good enough to not get clipped by Walters?
But maybe I argue with the wrong person. I see you have Loma in your P4P top 10. Do you think he has a resume with you can claim he is top 10 P4P? C'mon...
And Wlad is the first? What... Mayeather's resume shits al over Wlad's.
Ugh. I hate posts like this. You clearly have an agenda.....
Lomachenko's defense doesn't seem spectacular? First of all he does have a good defense. I'm not going to even explain why.
Second of all....... What about Walter's? How his defense? Is it spectacular? Is Walter's chin good enough to get clipped by Lomachenko? You're so one-sided it's ridiculous.
OH and Lomachenko is hittable... Right. But Floyd got hit by Robert Guerrero multiple times..... Does his defense suck because he's hittable also? (keep in mind he is even a DEFENSIVE fighter)
:thinking:
Manny people say Lomachenko needs more experience before fighting Walters (and a fight against Veytveka for example, before Walters could only benefit him) BUT.... Is it possible that Walters needs some more experience before fighting Lomachenko?
He destroyed an old Vic, but it was an impressive victory to me because it came out of nowhere and Vic looked great against Donaire in his last fight up until the KO. The Donaire fight was impressive as well but both of these guys were damaged goods, to a certain extent, when Walters fought them.
Lomachenko hasn't fought anyone nearly as explosive and powerful as Walters in his pro career yet, but Walters hasn't fought anyone nearly as all-around talented with youth on their side- as Lomachenko.
In my personal opinion, I feel confident saying Lomachenko beats Walters comfortably at this point with the experience he gained since fighting the cheating Salido..... But my heart will be racing from the opening bell. Not sure I could watch it live, but have to wait for replay and see the result on boxingscene first, to spare my sympathetic nervous system for the duration of the fight
Walters needs to get a fight with Gradovich. Small busy fighter and a title he could gain. Gradovich will be game. Russell would be good prep for Walters as well.
Honestly, I want these four champions to fight now.
Mares can be put in the mix surely, but Walters, Gradovich, Lomachenko, and Russell need to get it on!!
But maybe I argue with the wrong person. I see you have Loma in your P4P top 10. Do you think he has a resume with you can claim he is top 10 P4P? C'mon...
And Wlad is the first? What... Mayeather's resume shits al over Wlad's.
Manny people say Lomachenko needs more experience before fighting Walters (and a fight against Veytveka for example, before Walters could only benefit him) BUT.... Is it possible that Walters needs some more experience before fighting Lomachenko?
He destroyed an old Vic, but it was an impressive victory to me because it came out of nowhere and Vic looked great against Donaire in his last fight up until the KO. The Donaire fight was impressive as well but both of these guys were damaged goods, to a certain extent, when Walters fought them.
Lomachenko hasn't fought anyone nearly as explosive and powerful as Walters in his pro career yet, but Walters hasn't fought anyone nearly as all-around talented with youth on their side- as Lomachenko.
In my personal opinion, I feel confident saying Lomachenko beats Walters comfortably at this point with the experience he gained since fighting the cheating Salido..... But my heart will be racing from the opening bell. Not sure I could watch it live, but have to wait for replay and see the result on boxingscene first, to spare my sympathetic nervous system for the duration of the fight
Loma's defense doesn't seem spectacular, he isn't there to hit, but he is hittable, so... How you know at this point that his chin is good enough to not get clipped by Walters?
Manny people say Lomachenko needs more experience before fighting Walters (and a fight against Veytveka for example, before Walters could only benefit him) BUT.... Is it possible that Walters needs some more experience before fighting Lomachenko?
He destroyed an old Vic, but it was an impressive victory to me because it came out of nowhere and Vic looked great against Donaire in his last fight up until the KO. The Donaire fight was impressive as well but both of these guys were damaged goods, to a certain extent, when Walters fought them.
Lomachenko hasn't fought anyone nearly as explosive and powerful as Walters in his pro career yet, but Walters hasn't fought anyone nearly as all-around talented with youth on their side- as Lomachenko.
In my personal opinion, I feel confident saying Lomachenko beats Walters comfortably at this point with the experience he gained since fighting the cheating Salido..... But my heart will be racing from the opening bell. Not sure I could watch it live, but have to wait for replay and see the result on boxingscene first, to spare my sympathetic nervous system for the duration of the fight