It's a horrible tragedy that we have yet to see a fight between Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.
Both are Americans Andres who are technically undefeated and both got victories against top guys like Froch and Abraham. If one of them beat the other, it would be the best win of their career.
Do you think that this fight has any chance of ever happening?
Blame Dirrell. He didn't want it.
I don't think anyone should be slating Dirrell behind Ward as the 2nd best super middleweight, either. Not right now.
Froch resume is unmatched by most of the sport. Just because Dirrell beat Froch he hasn't done much else.
Dirrell got 3 things going for him.
1: Undefeated.
2: Good wins. Froch and Abraham and soon DeGale.
3: The only guy in the division who stands a chance against Ward.
Froch is a great fighter with a great resume, so shouldn't Dirrell get mad respect for beating him?
Dirrell defeated Carl and Arthur. The only guy with a better resume than Dirrell is Ward, but Dirrell looks to be almost on the same level of skill and he got the perfect style/speed/reach to beat Ward.
1&2: Ward & Dirrell
1&2: Ward & Dirrell
3: Froch
4: Kessler
5: Abraham
I do expect big things from Anthony, but he needs to do fight some good opponents before ranking him too highly. Bika was a good win, but not a great win and Anthony was troubled at times.
Froch resume is unmatched by most of the sport. Just because Dirrell beat Froch he hasn't done much else.
He did more bad things in the Froch fight than good though which is a shame. Dirrell turned it on in a few rounds and looked really good but the majority of the fight he was running around and diving on the canvas. I thought he nicked the fight but it wasn't a robbery.
He showed in the Abraham fight what he can do. He was on point from the first bell. But then again, he started to mentally fold towards the end of the fight.
He didn't do anything wrong in that fight, besides not trying to test Froch chin a lot more with hard committed shots, as he did stun him when he decided to go in the fire. Froch was doing wrestling moves and rabbit punches to make Dirrell flop to canvas, Froch is stronger than Dirrell, but this isn't a strong man or wrestling contest.
Abraham hit him when he slipped, unguarded trying to catch his fall and save himself injury. Abraham out of desperation hit the man while he was down on the canvas. Dirrell hurt Abraham in that fight and Abraham took that cheap opportunity. I like how you try to say Dirrell was mentally folding in both fights when it shows he was still eons ahead of both fighters.
Froch is an overhyped UK fighter.. I really don't like the country due to their nationalism and biasness for their fighters. Hyping up Brook-Gavin is hilarious.
Ward is the best but Andre is not the 2nd best in my opinion. Froch beat him before and will beat him again if they fight. Dirrell has a weak chin and lacks heart. Ward would easily beat him. His own brother would beat him. He is a skilled boxer and a decent puncher but his flaws will keep him from ever being the best or even the 2nd or third best at 168.
Dirrell defeated Carl and Arthur. The only guy with a better resume than Dirrell is Ward, but Dirrell looks to be almost on the same level of skill and he got the perfect style/speed/reach to beat Ward.
1&2: Ward & Dirrell
1&2: Ward & Dirrell
3: Froch
4: Kessler
5: Abraham
I do expect big things from Anthony, but he needs to do fight some good opponents before ranking him too highly. Bika was a good win, but not a great win and Anthony was troubled at times.
It's a horrible tragedy that we have yet to see a fight between Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.
Both are Americans Andres who are technically undefeated and both got victories against top guys like Froch and Abraham. If one of them beat the other, it would be the best win of their career.
Do you think that this fight has any chance of ever happening?
Dirrell isnt that good bro, I mean, hes super athletic & skilled but I think mentally he falls somewhere between Zab Judah & Victor Ortiz. Wards beats him easily, maybe even by corner stoppage.
Ward is the best but Andre is not the 2nd best in my opinion. Froch beat him before and will beat him again if they fight. Dirrell has a weak chin and lacks heart. Ward would easily beat him. His own brother would beat him. He is a skilled boxer and a decent puncher but his flaws will keep him from ever being the best or even the 2nd or third best at 168.
What? Ward is technically and untechnically undefeated.
No.
Froch beat Ward clearly on points but was robbed by the home-town judges.
Anybody who disagrees with that is a moron and DKSAB.
I'm a huge Froch fan but he lost to Dirrell. People complain about the way he fought but he scored points and scored pretty often. Froch legally didn't do anything. So even if you get butt hurt at how Dirrell fought is not like toy can take the fight from him Unless you're just a shameless hater.
It's a horrible tragedy that we have yet to see a fight between Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell.
Both are Americans Andres who are technically undefeated and both got victories against top guys like Froch and Abraham. If one of them beat the other, it would be the best win of their career.
Do you think that this fight has any chance of ever happening?
Other way around dude. Both are technically defeated.
Dirrel ducked ward
He dropped out of the super six after Abraham fight and he was due to fight ward. He said he had head injury which of course is extremely serious but there's sceptics as to whether he faked it if you watch the Abraham incident closely
Dirrell was definitely robbed against Froch, i don't care what anybody says. I'm a fan of Froch too, more than Dirrell, so i'm just calling it for what it was.
He landed much more punches, simply outboxed him and even beat him in the exchanges. He also stunned Froch. Dirrell was quite annoying flopping on the floor quite a bit which is why people want to take away the good things he did in the ring. He won that fight.
However, at the moment it's hard to call him the top guy in the division, he has done very little in the past few years. His talent is unquestionable, but his heart is and his inactivity means he still has to prove it. Talent/Potential alone doesn't get you to the top of a division.
He did more bad things in the Froch fight than good though which is a shame. Dirrell turned it on in a few rounds and looked really good but the majority of the fight he was running around and diving on the canvas. I thought he nicked the fight but it wasn't a robbery.
He showed in the Abraham fight what he can do. He was on point from the first bell. But then again, he started to mentally fold towards the end of the fight.
Both been hiding
Froch is the best right now until proven otherwise
Last i checked he is 1 and 1 H2H
Shouldn't Froch be the one searching like mad for a rematch against Dirrell or Ward?