baldomir deserves respect

The revisionists of history are back at it again. Baldomir was an over achiever. Didn't do nothing particularly outstanding but he head decent basic skills, chin and stamina. Some how he found his grove, peak or what ever it was and was on a legit roll. He actually wanted to fight Mayweather because he thought that he could beat him. He gets too much flak because of that fight. Baldomir was the type of fighter that you thought that he was going to loose every time he stepped up and for some reason he kept winning. I had no issues when he fought Floyd because he earned it the same way Guerrero earned the opportunity.

Yet another thread turns into another Mayweather bash fest Actually it was a Floyd fan that tried to bring up Baldomir by bashing Manny that started all this. Just letting you know. Well damn Kinda sad I think we found the guilty one. They always come back to the scene of the crime! http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/lawyer-pointing-to-guilty-one-angry-his-finger-you-camera-s-saying-you-41241558.jpg

Actually it was a Floyd fan that tried to bring up Baldomir by bashing Manny that started all this. Just letting you know. Well damn Kinda sad

Baldomir got my respect as a fighter and a champion....nothing you say can change that Yet another thread turns into another Mayweather bash fest I think some posters think they are getting paid for this Actually it was a Floyd fan that tried to bring up Baldomir by bashing Manny that started all this. Just letting you know.

basically everything you said was wrong. he fought mitchell for 4 million instead of marg for 7 million so how did he not bring any dough? the judah contract was contingent on judah beating baldomir, he didn't so the contract was void, they made another contract after judah lost. You keep straw-manning and saying it was either oscar or marg. Like that was the only time he could have fought marg? marg was ranked #1 for more than 4 years. He had plenty of opportunities as i've just pointed out and floyd also retired when the division was hot. maybe you are just a clueless floyd fan but the truth is the truth and saying floyd fought better fighters at some point in his career to excuse a duck is just pathetic. just admit he didn't want to fight margarito, doesn't mean he sucks it just means he didn't want to fight him.if cotto doesn't fight ggg can he just say well i fought pac and floyd already so how can i be ducking now? you can call me what you want.....if you feel Mayweather ducked Margo, that's just an opinion The facts are he has fought more accomplished fighters than Margarito before and after he first move up to 147 let it go...so what he didn't face Margo....he is fighting Manny next month Manny just fought chris freaking algeiri who isn't even a top 1000 welterweight and nobody is crying about it :bottle::bottle::bottle:

Baldomir got my respect as a fighter and a champion....nothing you say can change that Yet another thread turns into another Mayweather bash fest I think some posters think they are getting paid for this

Balderthal had one of the greatest chins of his era, outside of taking a dive against Canelo Alvarez. (Like we really believe Alvarez has the type of power to KO the Thal while wearing Winning Gloves, when he isn't putting Trout, or Angulo to sleep wearing Grants.) He ate some good shots from Judah, and ate some bombs from a 154 pound Forrest for 12 rounds. Anybody who had Baldomir in front of them, knew they were going to get rounds in. Clottey being DQ'd against Balderthal was bull****. He was handling him and in control of the fight.

Baldomir was the champion and Judah was the former champion and number one contender.....their contract was signed before Judah even lost to Baldo Mayweather was fighting Judah anyway....its Judah's fault he lost So mayweather went after the champion....who was the lineal champion who had the more prestigious belt as well and made more money than fighting Margarito for a WBO trinket and Margo lost to Paul Williams killed his momentum. now in 2007....Mayweather was free Mayweather left Top Rank.....he was chasing DLH since his days at 130....would you fight Margarito for pennys and a trinket.....or fight the cash cow of your era and enhance your legacy after that he faced Hatton who he wanted to fight since 2004 in another blockbuster....both were prime and undefeated and multi-weight champions/titlists.......their is no way you can argue that fighting Margarito made more sense than fighting them at that time In 2006-2007 Margarito had no name, no following and lost to Paul Williams, wasn't the lineal champion, didn't bring big doe to the table or anything....he was a good fighter but that bull Arum claiming Margo was the most feared was crap then and crap now OSCAR at 154 was a more dangerous fight than Margo at 147 in 2007....made more money and enhanced his legacy Oscar>Margo basically everything you said was wrong. he fought mitchell for 4 million instead of marg for 7 million so how did he not bring any dough? the judah contract was contingent on judah beating baldomir, he didn't so the contract was void, they made another contract after judah lost. You keep straw-manning and saying it was either oscar or marg. Like that was the only time he could have fought marg? marg was ranked #1 for more than 4 years. He had plenty of opportunities as i've just pointed out and floyd also retired when the division was hot. maybe you are just a clueless floyd fan but the truth is the truth and saying floyd fought better fighters at some point in his career to excuse a duck is just pathetic. just admit he didn't want to fight margarito, doesn't mean he sucks it just means he didn't want to fight him.if cotto doesn't fight ggg can he just say well i fought pac and floyd already so how can i be ducking now?

People bash him because Mayweather best him for the welterweight title If baldo was such a bad fighter he wouldn't have got as far as he did Someone posted that got me thinking....he does have a better resume than GGG Come to think of it baldo at least won the lineal ww title.... PAC man been at 147 since 2008 and he is just now fighting the number 1 guy That's kinda bad considering how his fanatics inflate his ww exploits You logic is warped. Only in your little world does it make sense to compare fighters by the numbers! :nono:

but he fought sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss even though marg had been ranked #1 for 3 years. I think you lost this one mr. straw man. return to fighthype for more talking points. you do know the contract with Judah was signed before he fought Baldomir....im sure you wasn't even following boxing then Margarito was never that good....face it......was no boogeyman he couldn't even beat Daniel Santos for GODS sake at 147 or 154 Sharmba Mitchell was his first fight at the weight....17 pounds over his original weight...he still went on to beat champions Judah, Baldomir, Mosely, Ortiz, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Cotto, Maidana and Canelo at 147 and 154..... .that more than makes up for not fighting Margarito, who was good but no a future hall of famer like the guys I bolder

why are you creating a straw man? it wasn't fight margarito or fight corrales/castillo/hoya. it was fight margarito or fight sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss and we know what he picked. Baldomir was the champion and Judah was the former champion and number one contender.....their contract was signed before Judah even lost to Baldo Mayweather was fighting Judah anyway....its Judah's fault he lost So mayweather went after the champion....who was the lineal champion who had the more prestigious belt as well and made more money than fighting Margarito for a WBO trinket and Margo lost to Paul Williams killed his momentum. now in 2007....Mayweather was free Mayweather left Top Rank.....he was chasing DLH since his days at 130....would you fight Margarito for pennys and a trinket.....or fight the cash cow of your era and enhance your legacy after that he faced Hatton who he wanted to fight since 2004 in another blockbuster....both were prime and undefeated and multi-weight champions/titlists.......their is no way you can argue that fighting Margarito made more sense than fighting them at that time In 2006-2007 Margarito had no name, no following and lost to Paul Williams, wasn't the lineal champion, didn't bring big doe to the table or anything....he was a good fighter but that bull Arum claiming Margo was the most feared was crap then and crap now OSCAR at 154 was a more dangerous fight than Margo at 147 in 2007....made more money and enhanced his legacy Oscar>Margo

Margarito was never on his radar Its not ducking when you are fighting better opposition...Margarito fought Mayweather and Pacquaio at the end of his career.....Margarito was never on that level so don't sit there and make it seem he was when he was a decent fighter who just won trinkets....these 3 guys Manny, Pac, and ODLH are/were great fighters and they wanted to fight each other and make big dough....margarita brought nothing to the table legacy wise or money wise Margo fought at 147 and everytime he moved up he lost....Daniel Santos, 150 with Pacquaio, 154 with Cotto Margarito was never the monster Arum and Mayweather detractors tried to make him be but he fought sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss even though marg had been ranked #1 for 3 years. I think you lost this one mr. straw man. return to fighthype for more talking points.

bro you crying about Mayweather not fighting Margarito, when Margarito wouldnt even be one of his biggest wins He has beaten more accomplished and better than Margarito Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Genaro Hernandez, may all be in the hall of fame by the end of this decade he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next month....do you really think Margarito who was just decent, is/was a bigger threat to Mayweather than ODLH who weighed 165 fight night, picked the ring, gloves and weight class Manny Pacquaio is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Margarito ever was Mayweather damn near white washed Mosley...the guy who darn near decapitated Margarito Canelo has a lot left in his tank, we don't know what he will go on to do Margarito was a good fighter but Margarito was no legacy changing opponent when the fight was proposed plus this thread is about Baldomir....he gets my respect just like all of the pro fighters why are you creating a straw man? it wasn't fight margarito or fight corrales/castillo/hoya. it was fight margarito or fight sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss and we know what he picked.

dlh ducked marg a year later judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad. if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations Margarito was never on his radar Its not ducking when you are fighting better opposition...Margarito fought Mayweather and Pacquaio at the end of his career.....Margarito was never on that level so don't sit there and make it seem he was when he was a decent fighter who just won trinkets....these 3 guys Manny, Pac, and ODLH are/were great fighters and they wanted to fight each other and make big dough....margarita brought nothing to the table legacy wise or money wise Margo fought at 147 and everytime he moved up he lost....Daniel Santos, 150 with Pacquaio, 154 with Cotto Margarito was never the monster Arum and Mayweather detractors tried to make him be

dlh ducked marg a year later judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad. if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations bro you crying about Mayweather not fighting Margarito, when Margarito wouldnt even be one of his biggest wins He has beaten more accomplished and better than Margarito Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Genaro Hernandez, may all be in the hall of fame by the end of this decade he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next month....do you really think Margarito who was just decent, is/was a bigger threat to Mayweather than ODLH who weighed 165 fight night, picked the ring, gloves and weight class Manny Pacquaio is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Margarito ever was Mayweather damn near white washed Mosley...the guy who darn near decapitated Margarito Canelo has a lot left in his tank, we don't know what he will go on to do Margarito was a good fighter but Margarito was no legacy changing opponent when the fight was proposed plus this thread is about Baldomir....he gets my respect just like all of the pro fighters

So Floyd was scared of Margo but not scared of a hall of famer @ 154 in odlh That odlh would've kicked Margo's basic ass Paul Williams lost to quintana he was no monster Mayweather went on to beat better fighters than Margo and p williams so that stale he was scared b.s. is senseless and carry's no weight He was scared of PAC too right...wonder whats gonna be the excuses may 3 He was scared of canelo, he was ducking Mosley Dude been making y'all eat crow since he came back...can't wait til may 2nd to see what excuses y'all cook up dlh ducked marg a year later judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad. if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations

they should change the forum to Non Stop Bytching every pro fighter deserves respect especially a world champion

floyd didn't want anything to do with margarito when margarito was prime, champion, and knocking guys out left and right. prime margarito would have squashed hatton at welterweight. hatton struggled against collazo at welterweight. that's why floyd retired because there were too many strong hard hitting prime guys like paul williams, margarito, cotto, etc. in the division. no doubt in my mind a prime paul williams or margarito would have squashed floyd. paul williams a six feet tall, southpaw crazy volume puncher with good power would have given floyd a TON of problems and easily beat him. So Floyd was scared of Margo but not scared of a hall of famer @ 154 in odlh That odlh would've kicked Margo's basic ass Paul Williams lost to quintana he was no monster Mayweather went on to beat better fighters than Margo and p williams so that stale he was scared b.s. is senseless and carry's no weight He was scared of PAC too right...wonder whats gonna be the excuses may 3 He was scared of canelo, he was ducking Mosley Dude been making y'all eat crow since he came back...can't wait til may 2nd to see what excuses y'all cook up

Margarito was good but it didn't happen get over it Margarito held the wbo belt and when both were on top rank Mayweather was going after odlh....a great fighter and someone in the hall of fame That was in 06-07 When Floyd left top rank and got odlh and hatton....both of them were better fighters and actually were champions and won ABC belts Margo hadn't done **** but beat cintron and six heads lewis by 07....didn't he lose to Paul Williams that year Odlh and hatton> Paul Williams and Margo When Money came back in 09 he beat jmm, Ortiz, Cotto, maidana 2x, canelo, and Guerrero Now he'll be fighting Manny.... That's 3(Cotto, PAC, and Jmm) hall of famers since 09 We don't know what canelo will do on to do Margarito was good but he wouldn't have enhanced money's resume or made him as much money as hatton or odlh Hating someone don't mean you can rewrite the truth this is the same floyd fan retoric wash rinse repeat.... here an interview of floyd... he brags on how mosley, plasterito & cotto beat each other but no one beat him blah blah blah blah him retiring after the hatton fight is all that needs to be said. "ima retire from boxing, boxing isn't going to retire me". Dont forget he only came out of retirement cuz his ass was almost broke!

Alvarez left him face first in the dirt He didum dirty like old Yeller behind the tool shed