He's a good boxer, but come on. Lost to Pacquiao, Mayweather, Trout, Margarito, arguably also lost to Clottey... He got some okay wins (Paulie Malignaggi), but no great wins. He's a good boxer, but people are talking like he's elite level. There is nothing left for him to do in the sport, except lose to Canelo or Golovkin. He did look good in spanking an old handicapped Martinez, though.
He fought for his belt coming off a loss. You're saying Cotto didn't deserve that vacant championship belt? Margarito didn't fight Garcia for a belt. He fought Cotto after Pacquiao. Garcia seemed like a big deal when he was suppose to fight Porter.
I forgot there was even a title on the line for Jennings, who cares. That means Cotto has better guys working for him than Marg's. Cotto got a title shot off of a loss and Marg got stuck fighting a literal cab driver in Mexico and you're hating on Cotto for fighting at least a real fighter. Let the hate flow through you.
Man, win or lose, Cotto has been a great ambassador for the sport! He's always been humble win or lose and never ducked top competition, even in losing.
When Margarito was the most "feared" man in boxing, Jr. retired conveniently and who stepped up to the plate? That's right. He came up short, but he gave a hell of a fight despite being blasted with plaster for 11 rounds.
Losing to Pac was no shame. Losing to Trout, nobody gave a ***** including Cotto himself. He never was motivated for it.
I've been to some Cotto fights at MSG and Atlantic City, and honestly, aside from the Trout and Clottey fights, he's never failed to entertain and give you your moneys worth.
He'll always be in my top 5 ATG most exciting fighter of my generation.
For starters, he ducked Hatton and Floyd at 140. He waited for Williams to vacate to fight for a VACANT belt(yes I know he had surgery but had plenty of time to recover). You stans didn't think much of it with Sergio so why should it apply with Cotto right?
Every fucker and their mom would fight Pac and Floyd for the money they bring so stop acting like it's all that and some. Marquez fought both of them too and his ass didn't fight everyone either.
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Did you not forget hatton jumped up to 147 and barely beat collazo? then after he lost he didn't even fight right away he waited almost a year to fight again.
According to Bruce Trampler, Top Rank's longtime matchmaker, he is. Found this on hbo boxing.
"Judah would not have been Cotto's most dangerous foe to date had Trampler found a way to get Ricky Hatton into the ring. Trampler revealed for the first time that Top Rank had been trying to make a Hatton-Cotto fight happen at junior welterweight.
I've seen this posted before. I found the link once but didn't save it but I did find this part:
"For the last two years, Cotto has been willing to fight Floyd Mayweather and Ricky Hatton at what ever weight," Trampler said. "Get this straight: Cotto ducks nobody. Here's a scoop for you: there were numerous discussions with the Hatton people, but Ricky went up to 147 and then came back down. Miguel is staying at welterweight. But Hatton knows where to find Cotto when he wants to get it on. Floyd is the most skilled boxer in the world, an immensely talented athlete, but he won't beat Miguel Cotto.""
And floyd is the one that said cotto lives too far and that cotto is too green:
Mayweather, who's 31, argues that a fight with Cotto isn't worth his time right now. He believes Cotto needs to build himself into a pay-per-view attraction and then step forward for a lucrative matchup.
"I'm only going by credentials," Mayweather said. "Now I pick and chose who I want to fight. He is with Bob Arum; he has a boss. Once he goes out and becomes an entrepreneur and makes it worth my while, we can talk."
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3336131
Here's floyd on cotto:
“Cotto needs a couple more tune-ups. Right now he’s a little too green,” Mayweather said.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/article-archives/1585-mayweather
and paul williams just lost to quintana and then moved up asap.
He's a good boxer, but come on. Lost to Pacquiao, Mayweather, Trout, Margarito, arguably also lost to Clottey... He got some okay wins (Paulie Malignaggi), but no great wins. He's a good boxer, but people are talking like he's elite level. There is nothing left for him to do in the sport, except lose to Canelo or Golovkin. He did look good in spanking an old handicapped Martinez, though.
Is he done probably?
Lets break it down.
Lost to a cheat Margarito.
May and Pac are potentially ATGs (And he pushed Mayweather to the limit).
Clottey - looked shite but got the W (all boxers have these fights).
Trout - Bad style match up, props for him for taking a high risk low reward fight that was blatantly a bad style match up. If other boxers had this attitude they'd have a few more L's on their resume.
Overrated? sounds harsh. He fought EVERYONE and has had a damn good career. Give me an overrated fighter who fights everyone and loses over an overprotected cherry picker anytime.
and 100% of those 80% was picking sergio with a disclaimer about his legs. So............
Thats how it goes people love to go with their heart instead of their brains and that cool what makes watching boxing fun.
Bullsh^t!!!
I got Martinez by KO or ref/Roach stops it in the 8th. Once Martinez catches Cotto flush with a solid shot then it's lights out for Cotto. Cotto has problems with physically bigger fighters.
This fight is such a joke.A 39 year old martinez will outbox cotto and KO him in the 9th sending alot of unhappy puerto ricans home.Martinez has never gotten respect in the fight game
Everyone who picks Cotto thinks that Martinez body won't hold up. That's the only reason they think Cotto can win this fight. I'm surprised so many people believe Martinez body is pretty much shot. I don't think Martinez would say yes to this match-up unless he felt his body was OK. Martinez by KO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Martinez is ready to give some serious Chingasos to Miguel Cotto! Can't wait! Chingaso time!:boxing:
Im tempted to buy this fight just to see Cottos wife crying after he gets brutally beaten
Don't let Delvin Rodriguez fool you into thinking Cotto is the fresher of the 2. Sergio is faster than Cotto, stronger and bigger. Even a 70% Sergio should stop Cotto!!! Cotto is definitely the more wartorn.
Cotto gonna get his ass whipped.
Its funny how Chris Paul and Blake Griffen had the same exact surgery on there knees and return to full speed at the NBA level but poor little Sergio is having issues with his knees. Yea ok.
How old is Martinez?
yes i have to agree. he really hasn't beaten a top guy(who could walk) since clottey and even that fight i had clottey winning although it was razor close. very good fighter but it just goes to show that hype and popularity can get a fighter very far. his last 4 fights he gave floyd a good fight but even maidana tested floyd more, lost to trout, destroyed a journeyman rodriguez, and beat a guy who shouldn't have been in the ring as sergio says "I take it in stride. I am still having trouble walking. When my knee warms up, I start to hobble."
Its funny how Chris Paul and Blake Griffen had the same exact surgery on there knees and return to full speed at the NBA level but poor little Sergio is having issues with his knees. Yea ok.
He's supposed to fight Williams coming off of a loss? Who did Margarito fight after he got his ass handed to him by Mosley again?
He fought for his belt coming off a loss. You're saying Cotto didn't deserve that vacant championship belt? Margarito didn't fight Garcia for a belt. He fought Cotto after Pacquiao. Garcia seemed like a big deal when he was suppose to fight Porter.
Canelo gone mess that man up. Cotto strung him along and ran for the Rocc Nation easy life...no Canelo, no GGG, only cake walks for big cheddah. I can't fault him for grabbing the money but he doesn't want to fight any legit Middleweights, that's why he was trying to get Bradley to come up from 147.
So Geale was a good test for GGG but not Cotto? A top 5 ranked MW is not fighting any legit MW's...
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Again, Jennings? Was that hard to comprehend? Williams was the champ, Cotto fought Jennings for his belt. :lol1: GTFOH with the better comp bull****!
But Cotto is top 5 P4P doe!
He's supposed to fight Williams coming off of a loss? Who did Margarito fight after he got his ass handed to him by Mosley again?
When are these fuks gona stop? Wow, the hate has been legendary for the last 6 weeks or so.
The King will fight in Jun, easily win push Canelo's chit so deep that it will require a surgical instrument to remove some time in Nov-Dec and then fight GGG.
Canelo gone mess that man up. Cotto strung him along and ran for the Rocc Nation easy life...no Canelo, no GGG, only cake walks for big cheddah. I can't fault him for grabbing the money but he doesn't want to fight any legit Middleweights, that's why he was trying to get Bradley to come up from 147.
You must be new to the sport. Don't lump Cotto's resume in there with someone like Canelo.
Actually, in such a short time Canelo has built a resume as tough as Cotto's.
Myths? There was one guy didn't fight and that was Williams and it was because he took better competition. I didn't say Cotto didn't make mistakes, his biggest one was having his uncle train him and not check the gloves. That was really his only mistake, deep down you know this you just can't admit on the internet. I understand you have to take the Margarito approach and look macho instead being smart.
Again, Jennings? Was that hard to comprehend? Williams was the champ, Cotto fought Jennings for his belt. :lol1: GTFOH with the better comp bull****!
But Cotto is top 5 P4P doe!
I was busy doing real life things. Sorry that I put that first over debating with nut huggers. Lol @ bigger fish to fight than Williams, who Jennings? :lol1:
Just cause he lost to Quintana doesn't mean he would lose to Cotto. Keep believing it was loaded wraps and not mistakes that made Cotto lose to Margs. That just makes the butt hurt more hilarious.
Cotto is a B- fighter so I'm not too far off from the names I mentioned. Go back to your stupid ass myths.
Myths? There was one guy didn't fight and that was Williams and it was because he took better competition. I didn't say Cotto didn't make mistakes, his biggest one was having his uncle train him and not check the gloves. That was really his only mistake, deep down you know this you just can't admit on the internet. I understand you have to take the Margarito approach and look macho instead being smart.
It took you this long and all you came up with were 2 guys he didn't actually fight. Hatton wanted no piece of Cotto and Cotto was busy with bigger fish to fry than Williams. Seriously though, if Quintana beat Williams Cotto would have had not problem, the guy was a twig. Cotto went 11 round with loaded up Marg and you think Willaims punches would have done something? How surprising.
Anyway, good to know you came up with two B/C level fighters as "ducking" lol.
I was busy doing real life things. Sorry that I put that first over debating with nut huggers. Lol @ bigger fish to fight than Williams, who Jennings? :lol1:
Just cause he lost to Quintana doesn't mean he would lose to Cotto. Keep believing it was loaded wraps and not mistakes that made Cotto lose to Margs. That just makes the butt hurt more hilarious.
Cotto is a B- fighter so I'm not too far off from the names I mentioned. Go back to your stupid ass myths.
When are these fuks gona stop? Wow, the hate has been legendary for the last 6 weeks or so.
The King will fight in Jun, easily win push Canelo's chit so deep that it will require a surgical instrument to remove some time in Nov-Dec and then fight GGG.
For starters, he ducked Hatton and Floyd at 140. He waited for Williams to vacate to fight for a VACANT belt(yes I know he had surgery but had plenty of time to recover). You stans didn't think much of it with Sergio so why should it apply with Cotto right?
Every fucker and their mom would fight Pac and Floyd for the money they bring so stop acting like it's all that and some. Marquez fought both of them too and his ass didn't fight everyone either.
It took you this long and all you came up with were 2 guys he didn't actually fight. Hatton wanted no piece of Cotto and Cotto was busy with bigger fish to fry than Williams. Seriously though, if Quintana beat Williams Cotto would have had not problem, the guy was a twig. Cotto went 11 round with loaded up Marg and you think Willaims punches would have done something? How surprising.
Anyway, good to know you came up with two B/C level fighters as "ducking" lol.