Have you predicted all PBC fights so far?

I think Maidana vs Thurman wouldve been better. Considering Ghost punches as fast as old people screw and is about as active (career wise) as a granny on top. Mares vs Russell wouldve been better than Johnny Gonzalez considering styles & age. But Berto vs Lopez was an evenly matched battle of the shopworn I will admit. All those fights you mentioned may still happen..they have a lot of shows to fill, why do it in the first few shows.. Why rush those fights to casuals when casuals aren't ready to appreciate it yet because they have no idea who thurman, mares, etc are.. Let all the "name" fighters get some exposure the first few shows, and it will make it bigger when they do fight on say show 10.

They have had like 3 cards... QUILLEN-lee Peterson-garcia Thurman-ghost Were all legit fights What fights would you make if your Haymon if your trying to make PBC I think Maidana vs Thurman wouldve been better. Considering Ghost punches as fast as old people screw and is about as active (career wise) as a granny on top. Mares vs Russell wouldve been better than Johnny Gonzalez considering styles & age. But Berto vs Lopez was an evenly matched battle of the shopworn I will admit.

Out of curiosity-have your predictions on the showtime and HBO fights this year been 100% correct? Truthfully no but I havent been surprised at any outcomes either.

I dont know about anyone else but I haven't been able to get to excited about PBC other than its BOXING on national television. Other than that, the matches have all been predicted before they've fought. It kind of seems like there will be a "Floyd Mayweather" in every division, meaning there will be 1 guy at the top of each division(s) with virtually no threat to them. PBC will continue to make $ off the haters and underdog lovers without worrying about facing an upset to one of their favored. They have had like 3 cards... QUILLEN-lee Peterson-garcia Thurman-ghost Were all legit fights What fights would you make if your Haymon if your trying to make PBC

Why wouldn't HBO approves the ranked opponents GGG has been fighting? They want him on HBO, he's popular and he's fighting the best guys he can. They cannot force Cotto, Canelo & Ward to fight GGG that's crazy talk (Cotto has no contract with HBO btw, Canelo isn't officially a middleweight and I'm sure HBO would prefer Canelo vs Cotto first as that's probably the 2nd biggest fight in boxing and Ward is at 168 who is demanding tune up fights (his next fight isn't even going to be on HBO)). Eveyone GGG has fought recently was a top 10 ranked MW besides Rosado. HBO wants bigger fights for him as well, they wanted the Chavez fight, they wanted a Cotto fight. Again, totally different scenario as GGG can only fight who's available to him. He's at 160 and 160 is what it is. Again, what I'm talking about here are showcase fights for established fighters. Stevenson vs Bika, Broner vs Molina, Abner Mares vs Reyes, etc. I want PBC to be successful but with nearly 200 fighters in his stable, we should expect a bit better than this. If Garcia vs Peterson is the best he has to offer then yes, I'm going to be concerned. I want this to really take off and give boxing a much needed boost. We don't need anymore Bika vs Stevenson and Broner vs Molina type fights. He has a hugely deep stable, so hopefully the competition continues to get better and better. Well than that's going to be a problem because the way Haymon has done things over the years up until now hasn't been great for boxing. He really needs to put everything into this PBC boxing and make really competitive fights. That's what matters most here if this thing is really going to take off. As boxing fans that's what we all want. I don't care who is leading the ship, as long as the ship reaches it's destination. As far as GGG goes-I think HBO could have forced the issue more. The Chavez Jr fight fell through because Arum attached stips to it. HBO had Lampley say on air that a GGG/Ward fight wasn't good before his management issues. Yes, I know that you mean established fighters. I just think that's going to happen a little same as it has on HBO. I expect one showcase fight a year for established guys. What he's done hasn't all been bad. Last year was last year. SO far this year he has made the fights people have wanted. I agree that the best plan is to keep making the best fights. The reality is that fighters generally have 1 showcase out of 3 fights in a given year. SOme posters, not you, are suggesting Haymon fighters can only fight the best fight each fight out. That simply doesn't happen.

I agree there are alot of emotional responses but if people can get passed their emotional thoughts and responses, I think the fights are pretty easy to call & its kinda easy to tell who Haymons favorite kids are. Well picking the winner in a fight is kind of easy there are only two choices as no one ever picks draw. There is almost always an A side (or house fighter) that is the one getting pushed, so this is not just a PBC or Haymon thing.

Totally different with GGG. He's been having problems securing the best fights. Was scheduled to fight Pirog but Pirog got injured and pulled out. Was scheduled to fight Chavez jr but Chavez jr pulled out. Tried to get Sergio Martinez and failed. Has tried to get Cotto and failed. Among others. The difference is Haymon has strategic match making going on, so that his guy he wants to win most likely wins. GGG is a victim of not so great 160 division and a lack of willingness of the top names to fight him. Completely different. I have no problem with showcasing young guys like Spence, that's normal, and those fights should be undercard fights on like Spike or B.E.T or whatever. My concern are the showcase fights for already established fighters like Stevenson, Broner and the likes. These guys should be ready to fight the best now. This is just the beginning of PBC, so we have a long ways to go. I'm merely expressing my concerns. Come on Natas. HBO is not forcing their contracted money guys (cotto, canelo,ward) to fight GGG and is approving mediocre opposition for GGG when he can't get fights with who he wants. It's not the same-but I would expect if Haymon can't get SPence in with who he wants to fight, the same thing will happen. Those will happen as well. No different than the Kov/Caparello for instance. I'm not jumping down your throat. I'm just saying there are certain staples of the sport that Haymon is not going to deviate from as it would be detrimental.

Predicting a fight's outcome is fairly meaningless. You can ask ten random people on the street to pick a winner and odds are five of them will get it right. Even betting odds aren't the best guide because sometimes a fighter will be so good he'll be a heavy favourite against everyone around him. It's really about the levels of the guys involved in a match-up. That's the basis on which you make your judgements. How many top contenders face each other? How many top ten guys are thrown in with each other? And the how many fights are between guys who are levels apart? That's what counts. The problem people have with Haymon is that despite all the chest-beating over their huge stable, his people don't seem to be able to put many of them together in competitive fights. When it does happen, it seems like the guys involved get 18-24 months off before they have to face a challenge again. The flip-side to having bragging rights over how many fighters you control is that people will point out there are no obstacles to them fighting each other. When you won't make the best matches despite there being no obstacles, what are real fans of the sport supposed to say? Predicting boxing is a bit easier than almost Any other sport if you know boxing imo. Just following betting odds, you will prob get an 80-90 % success rate

Predicting a fight's outcome is fairly meaningless. You can ask ten random people on the street to pick a winner and odds are five of them will get it right. Even betting odds aren't the best guide because sometimes a fighter will be so good he'll be a heavy favourite against everyone around him. It's really about the levels of the guys involved in a match-up. That's the basis on which you make your judgements. How many top contenders face each other? How many top ten guys are thrown in with each other? And the how many fights are between guys who are levels apart? That's what counts. The problem people have with Haymon is that despite all the chest-beating over their huge stable, his people don't seem to be able to put many of them together in competitive fights. When it does happen, it seems like the guys involved get 18-24 months off before they have to face a challenge again. The flip-side to having bragging rights over how many fighters you control is that people will point out there are no obstacles to them fighting each other. When you won't make the best matches despite there being no obstacles, what are real fans of the sport supposed to say?

I agree there are alot of emotional responses but if people can get passed their emotional thoughts and responses, I think the fights are pretty easy to call & its kinda easy to tell who Haymons favorite kids are. Out of curiosity-have your predictions on the showtime and HBO fights this year been 100% correct?

Most people will claim they did but reading the posts prior it seemed like most people were going with their emotions because it seemed most people were picking Molina , Lopez & Guerrero to win but they all lost so now it's PBC is putting on nothing but mismatches. At least HBO isn't doing that just the best fighting the best GGG/ Monroe and Canelo / (inactive) Kirkland can't wait So many digital tears flowing because of Haymon and the PBC it might be time for these lames to pick a new sport I agree there are alot of emotional responses but if people can get passed their emotional thoughts and responses, I think the fights are pretty easy to call & its kinda easy to tell who Haymons favorite kids are.

Im 10 for 12 lately. Only ones i missed was bradley/chavez draw which i didnt really get wrong and cotto/martinez which i admit igot wrong. So do i win?

Most people will claim they did but reading the posts prior it seemed like most people were going with their emotions because it seemed most people were picking Molina , Lopez & Guerrero to win but they all lost so now it's PBC is putting on nothing but mismatches. At least HBO isn't doing that just the best fighting the best GGG/ Monroe and Canelo / (inactive) Kirkland can't wait So many digital tears flowing because of Haymon and the PBC it might be time for these lames to pick a new sport

Yes and I'm going for Quillin and Garcia this weekend. Although I want Lee and Peterson to win.

yes, but to be fair, upsets are rare True when the odds are like 5 to 1 and higher, and those kinda fights shouldnt happen.

All easy to predict. You want the next ones? Garcia in a shady looking win, and Quillin in a shady looking win. To be fair, I forgot about Quillen vs Lee which I cant call but in all reality, Lee only has a punchers chance, I think Kid Chocalate wins on cuts (tko) or UD

All of em i got right. As for this weekend, i'm thinking PEDerson in an upset for some reason. I dont know why, but.....As for Quillin/Lee, i'd prefer Lee but Quillin will win. Like you I am foreseeing an upset too but thats the trickery of it all. For Peterson to win, he'd have to jab his way in and stay there without getting clipped which is wishful thinking. Betting on Peterson is like betting on Judah. After you bet on the guy and lose you slap yourself on the forehead thinking did I just really put $ on this guy.

yes, but to be fair, upsets are rare

All easy to predict. You want the next ones? Garcia in a shady looking win, and Quillin in a shady looking win.

Yes I have predicted both of the PBC card winners so far. But I can't say there have been too many instances where I missed the HBO or Showtime bouts. I understand that mismatches aren't what gets everyone pumped in boxing, but people are acting like Haymon and PBC are the first promoters to set up these kind of fights. Most boxing matches are fairly easy to predict. Occasionally you see an upset, and you more or less wait for PPVs for the flip-a-coin type match ups. This is the same old model, just done on free TV, and yet somehow that's been met with anger from many boxing fans. (Disclaimer, when I said same old model I meant in terms of mismatched fights, not in the way the PBC company is being run or their long term goals) I will agree with you to an extent because I know its a promotors job to hype a fight(ers), GBP was notorious for getting fans pumped for their mismatches but Top Rank (although they recycle) their matches are/were kinda a toss up. The problem I see is if PBC isnt going to do business with other promotors when will we ever really get to see a "I cant call it" type match. If you see things like I do, I think you see who his top dogs are in every divsion and the scraps they're going to be fed.