First of, I'm not a delusional fanboy. Pacquiao beat Bradley twice. No doubt about that. I also feel that Bradley clearly defeated Diego Chaves, though. Many people are all high on Kell Brook, Keith Thurman and Amir Khan now, but TBH, I don't think any of them would be able to beat Bradley. I will let his best wins speak for themselves. It's sick how fast people were to forget him after the Pacquiao losses, despite him being better than probably everyone at welterweight except Pacquiao and Mayweather.
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The Ruslan and Pac fights ruined him. Ever since then he's been taking too much damage. All the criticism he took for being boring got to his head and left a mark he will never forget.
Bradley has fought some of the best at 140 and 147 - never been stopped.
Only Pac has beaten him (twice).
His crime?
Just not being gansta enough I suppose...
Like Austin Trout - he is a nice guy, who prefers to do his talking in the ring and shies away from the rest of negative stuff sometimes associated with boxing.
I like watching TB - he might not be a KO artist, but he comes to fight and is as tough as they come.
He will come again.
Bradley did very well for himself. I consider him the most lucky boxer in the past maybe 25 years.
He's bang average as a fighter. Completely bog standard. Has zero style or charisma. Yet he somehow kept getting selected for big fights and paydays on the back of doing fuk all.
You have to admire that in a way. I don't blame him for sitting on his arse now.
Manny has no claim
He never fought the number one guy
Mosley was number 1 @ 147 when Mayweather fought him, baldomir was #1 as well
PAC fought mosley after going 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights
Cotto was coming off a loss n closs call @ 147
Bradley was #3 when pac fought him ....Mayweather was champ and unified wbc/wba & ring champ at the time
who cares about bullsht rankings when in reality cotto > mosley, margarito > cotto, mosley > margarito
there's no number 1 here
cotto is a better fighter overall though, shane is just a bigger roider(and he wasn't on any vs mayweather, so not like floyd beat the mosley that sparked margarito a year before)
I am not a big fan of boxer's who can't really punch. If your KO % is below 40%, I am not watching your fight unless you are fighting a killa. I don't care for the "sweet science" alone. You have to be able to throw a real punch...
That said, fck Bradley and his entire career.
I honestly favor all those guys to beat Bradley.
Why? Because I think they're all better suited for 147 than TB. Let's be real, Bradley's run at WW hasn't been all that impressive. He beat Abregu (which doesn't seem all impressive anymore), had a very good close win over an old and blown up Marquez, lost to Pacquiao twice, went life and death with Ruslan, and had a draw with Chaves. The guy looked much better at 140 IMO.
I agree. Those guys all beat Bradley. He's never been impressive at Welterweight and doesn't have enough pop to keep the big guys off him. Manny was more his size and broke his legs. Thurman would seriously put the hurt on Bradley. I also think Bradley is shopworn after that Provo fight. His style isn't suite for the long haul due to him coming in head first and throwing those looping wide shots where he gets countered. Also, he's been inactive as heck and has no excuse to be really. He could easily fight three times a year and put himself back in the mix but doesn't seem motivated to. Bradley at 140 was on a mission, Bradley right now is on the couch.
Manny has no claim
He never fought the number one guy
Mosley was number 1 @ 147 when Mayweather fought him, baldomir was #1 as well
PAC fought mosley after going 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights
Cotto was coming off a loss n closs call @ 147
Bradley was #3 when pac fought him ....Mayweather was champ and unified wbc/wba & ring champ at the time
baldo was a bum
pac fought shane 1year after Floyd did
cotto was not coming off a loss , he got 2 wins prior to pac p4p #8 p4p and doesn't matter coz pac fought all 3 of em clottey, cotto and margs (Floyd's OG nightmare)
Mayweather can't be the real champion if he's been ducking the man that has had a claim to it as well (as well) since 2009. I'll give him #1 status at 154, but he needs to fight there or be stripped.
Surely you don't believe that Stevenson is the man at 175? Or that Cotto is the man at 160? They have to prove it against the best at some point.
Also, is there any boxer who's resume you don't think is sh*t?
Manny has no claim
He never fought the number one guy
Mosley was number 1 @ 147 when Mayweather fought him, baldomir was #1 as well
PAC fought mosley after going 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights
Cotto was coming off a loss n closs call @ 147
Bradley was #3 when pac fought him ....Mayweather was champ and unified wbc/wba & ring champ at the time
No way he can prove his worth now, considering all the other contenders are in the Haymon side of the fence. He's a millionaire now, I don't think he's even interested.
I consider myself one of Tim's biggest fans. But, his biggest mistake was resigning with Top Rank. Well, I can't say mistake because he is earning more money with them than the average boxer. But by resigning with Arum, it showed that he is now fighting for the big pay check and not legacy anymore. It would have been wise to sign with Haymon for the long term benefits. He has the fighters that would have elevated Tim to Mayweather and Pacquiao status if he were to win those fights. How do you motivate yourself to fight a Diego Chaves when you have been in the ring with Pacquiao and Marquez??? That is one of the reasons his performances have been mediocre. Who was Provodnikov before Tim fought him??? So now, Tim will be forced to fight the K9 Bundrages of the world. I think he is on his way out of the sport. Bradley probably will not be fighting after 2016.
Tim also needs to get in the ring more often, and focus on what got him to this level...his skills and speed. After the Pacquiao fight, he seemed to lose his identity in the ring. He now goes toe to toe more often when that is clearly not beneficial for him at 147. The performance he displayed against Peterson and Marquez proved he is a highly skilled fighter. When he uses those skills for 12 rounds, there is no one I see at 140 or 147 that can beat him. He would be a major problem for a 38 year old Mayweather as well. But I honestly think he may have lost a step and lost some of his hunger to be great since the Pacquiao fights. That's what money will do to some fighters.
Signing with Haymon would have been a huge mistake. Haymon has never groomed a star in his life. The few stars in Haymon's stable were made by HBO and other promoters and managers, not by Showtime and not by Haymon. Some who have had potential, such as Quillin, have seen that potential wasted.
People continue to laud Haymon like he has created these huge superstars, but who has he created? Who has he turned into a star? NO ONE.
But you are most definitely correct in that Bradley needs to fight more often, and against anyone he can get in the ring. Waiting for the big fight to happen will only end up in his seeing everyone pass him by. Get out there and fight and eventually they will come to you.
Bradley is a good fighter but not discipline. He went to Top Rank to get the Manny shot because he thought he could take advantage of Manny's weaknesses. I also think he went to Top Rank to avoid tough fights. He knew being at Top Rank would kill a Mayweather, Khan, Garcia, or Matthysse.
he won the ww wbo twice, one not legit but the other via clear schooling of a very good counterpuncher and p4p fighter
It was a trinket he won via robbery
PAC holds a trinket as does brook
Mayweather is the ring/lineal champion....one champion.... The rest are title holders....contenders with belts
He never was a champion at 147....just a guy that got a world title win via robbery over an ATG in Pacqauio
Bradley was and still is a very good fighter but he hasn't proven his worth at welterweight yet
A robbery win and a clear loss over Pacquaio, a weird draw with Diego Chavez, he beat Marquez, but really how potent is JMM at welterweight? he is like 2-3 above 140, and he beat Abregu who never was a top welterweight and struggled mightily with wholly average un-ranked Provodnikov who campaigns at 140......he isn't looking impressive at all at 147
he won the ww wbo twice, one not legit but the other via clear schooling of a very good counterpuncher and p4p fighter
Very well said. I agree with you on that. :boxing:
don't get me wrong, I fuks with desert storm, one of my top ten favorite current fighters....like a mini hagler....wish he had Marvelous' pop though
He has the talent to make a bigger splash at 147 though
nobody talks about bradley is because he is feather fisted and too polite. also, i think his controversial decision to pacquiao left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths..
I don't think its harsh...its realistic
look at the top ten welterweights in the world the past 3 years since he's been there...he has only fought Jmm, and Pacquaio....Chaves wasn't ranked when he beat him nor was Abregu....Provodnikov...no need to explain
Whereas Pacquaio beat top ten welterweights Clottey, Cotto, Mosley and former titlists from lower weights moving up
Mayweather beat these guys when they were top ten @ ww in Maidana(2x), Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Guerrero, Mosley, also fought Hatton when he was undefeated and 140 champion
These 2 guys proved they are elite at the weight.....Bradley hasn't in my eyes....he'd have to beat Brook, Khan, Mayweather, Pacquaio, or Thurman for me to be sold on him being as formidable at 147 as he was at 140
Very well said. I agree with you on that. :boxing:
I'm not a Bradley fan but that's an overly harsh assessment.
I don't think its harsh...its realistic
look at the top ten welterweights in the world the past 3 years since he's been there...he has only fought Jmm, and Pacquaio....Chaves wasn't ranked when he beat him nor was Abregu....Provodnikov...no need to explain
Whereas Pacquaio beat top ten welterweights Clottey, Cotto, Mosley and former titlists from lower weights moving up
Mayweather beat these guys when they were top ten @ ww in Maidana(2x), Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Guerrero, Mosley, also fought Hatton when he was undefeated and 140 champion
These 2 guys proved they are elite at the weight.....Bradley hasn't in my eyes....he'd have to beat Brook, Khan, Mayweather, Pacquaio, or Thurman for me to be sold on him being as formidable at 147 as he was at 140
He never was a champion at 147....just a guy that got a world title win via robbery over an ATG in Pacqauio
Bradley was and still is a very good fighter but he hasn't proven his worth at welterweight yet
A robbery win and a clear loss over Pacquaio, a weird draw with Diego Chavez, he beat Marquez, but really how potent is JMM at welterweight? he is like 2-3 above 140, and he beat Abregu who never was a top welterweight and struggled mightily with wholly average un-ranked Provodnikov who campaigns at 140......he isn't looking impressive at all at 147
I'm not a Bradley fan but that's an overly harsh assessment.